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usernamealreadytaken 02-08-2011 09:21 AM

Calling Shenanigans
 
I Implore LEON to demand that "Brandon" provide some evidence either in this post, or even just with Leon, that this LOA/COA exists. Otherwise, this smells like a scam...

CMIZ5290 02-08-2011 09:28 AM

God, will this post ever go away. If it smells like a scam to you, simply avoid it! if he does provide a coa, then buy it. I don't believe brandon is holding a gun to anyone's head.

blackmamba 02-08-2011 11:19 AM

Okay,

Calling me a scammer? You guys don't know me. Please stay off my thread if your going to talk trash. I have done deals on several forums. I have a lot of References. If it wasn't for all this snow i would already have the JSA. I do not want to argue on my thread but want to defend my self on here. I already talk to Leon. You guys need to get a LIFE! If you want to talk smack pm me. It is not like i have not done any deals on this forum. If i wanted to scam you guys wouldn't i already made a move and push you guys to buy it.? This thread was here to show some pictures and potential buyers intill i get the JSA. One guy said something, now everyone wants there word in. I have gotten some emails saying to keep my head up and you guys are just jealous. Some saying that i should not reply to your guys nonsense. Again have a problem just Pm me or email me. Im glad to prove y'all wrong.

Please, just stay off this thread if you got no positive things to say.

Best Regards, Brandon

Leon 02-08-2011 11:55 AM

well
 
Well, this is a peculiar situation. As the rules state you are allowed to interfere anywhere on the board if you think there is fraud going on...but as the rules also state, you better have your ducks in a row...I don't think calling this out was a bad move as there was no cert...but now I think we are belaboring the point.

I have spoken with Brandon on the phone as well as some PM's. I told him that from now on he needs stuff in hand before he posts it. He agrees and it was a mistake that he posted it early. Now, all that being said, I consider this issue over with until the LOA/COA is in hand. If anyone knows of OTHER issues then lets hear them or lets let this be, until the cert is provided. The guy said he made a mistake...no one has been scammed, as far as I know, so lets let it go for the moment, please. AND, I am not making a comment whether there is or isn't a cert...heck, I don't know. But I do like to give folks the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. Best regards

lharri3600 02-11-2011 09:08 PM

Amen!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by leon (Post 869963)
well, this is a peculiar situation. As the rules state you are allowed to interfere anywhere on the board if you think there is fraud going on...but as the rules also state, you better have your ducks in a row...i don't think calling this out was a bad move as there was no cert...but now i think we are belaboring the point.

I have spoken with brandon on the phone as well as some pm's. I told him that from now on he needs stuff in hand before he posts it. He agrees and it was a mistake that he posted it early. Now, all that being said, i consider this issue over with until the loa/coa is in hand. If anyone knows of other issues then lets hear them or lets let this be, until the cert is provided. The guy said he made a mistake...no one has been scammed, as far as i know, so lets let it go for the moment, please. And, i am not making a comment whether there is or isn't a cert...heck, i don't know. But i do like to give folks the benefit of the doubt until they prove otherwise. Best regards


blackmamba 02-13-2011 02:11 PM

Here is a picture of the Coa/Loa

http://i886.photobucket.com/albums/a...rbilia/151.jpg

T206Collector 02-13-2011 09:52 PM

These are the Lot #11 auctions from Mastro in Spring 2005:

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...px?lotid=47162

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/Lot...px?lotid=45891

Neither is the Bender. Something appears amiss....

Also a search of all Bender related 206 items turns up no signed T206 of Bender -- you can search here:

http://www.legendaryauctions.com/auctionresults.aspx

In fact, a "bender autographed" search -- using the language from the LOA's description of the title -- turns up only the following, none a signed T206:

Auction Lot# Title Min Bid Final Price Status
November 2010 518 "The Athletics - World's Champions 1913" Signed Dinner Program Inside Cover (19 Signatures) Including Plank, Bender, Baker and Collins $300.00 $11,257.50 OVER
Mastro April 2006 1208 Hall of Famers Autographed Ball with Alexander, Baker, Bender, Hooper, Johnson, Nichols, Speaker and Pennock $500.00 $3,614.30 OVER
Classic February 2006 216 1960 Nu-Card Hi-Lites Complete Set (72) and 1950-1955 W576 Callahan Near Master Set (87) $100.00 $1,194.98 OVER
MastroNet December 2005 1222 1950-56 Callahan Hall of Fame Near Master Set (90) with Six Autographed Including DiMaggio $200.00 $1,205.55 OVER
Classic October 2005 48 Extensive 1939-2003 Hall of Fame Postcard Collection (232) $100.00 $282.00 OVER
MastroNet Winter 2004 567 Early Hall of Famers Autographed 3" x 5" Sized Collection with Cobb, Foxx, Ott, etc. (23 Different) $900.00 $5,768.40 OVER
MastroNet Spring 2004 700 Hall of Fame Autographed Original Photo Collection (4) $400.00 $2,132.10 OVER
MastroNet Spring 2004 1782 1940 and 1941 Play Ball Complete Sets (2) $1,000.00 $6,412.40 OVER
MastroNet Winter 2003 1761 Hall of Famers and Superstars Signed Photos Collection (43) $200.00 $1,428.30 OVER
MastroNet Summer 2003 758 1921 Testimonial Dinner Program Signed by Ty Cobb, Chief Bender and Ed Walsh $400.00 $1,321.35 OVER
Oser December 2001 331 1939 Who's Who in Baseball Autographed Book $300.00 $4,158.40 OVER
5-2001 574 Chief Bender Autographed 1904 Athletics Team Picture, Matted $400.00 $0.00 OVER
11-2000 1529 1940's-1960's Philadelphia Phillies Vintage Grab-Bag Collection $150.00 $341.55 OVER
10-2000 106 All-Time Hall of Famers Autographed Ball - $200.00 $1,071.80 OVER
9-2000 109 Autographed Baseball with Cy Young, Chief Bender, Kid Nichols, etc. $600.00 $1,794.00 OVER

Can you explain any of this?

e107collector 02-14-2011 05:15 PM

Another point
 
Should there also be some sort of serial number on the LOA from James Spence? Can you post it as well.

Tony

shimozukawa 02-14-2011 11:56 PM

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blackmamba 02-15-2011 09:39 AM

Hey guys,

I'm not trying to scam anybody. I just bought this. I would do some more research when I get home. I haven't had time too look up or call James spence. If this becomes a problem I will just get it slabbed. So as of right now it is not for sale in till it is slabbed. Is that alright with anybody. I am not a scammer. If you guys have thoughts about the auction house letter let me know. I would appreciate the help. I will call James spence hopefully tonight. Any certain questions I should ask? Thanks Brandon

margoaepi 02-15-2011 10:26 AM

Jesus Christ, who on earth would try to certify a John Maine baseball!!! I think you should dispose of that item as soon as possible, as I'm sure its real and is destined to bring bad luck to anyone who holds it.

CMIZ5290 02-15-2011 11:18 AM

Who the hell is john maine?

margoaepi 02-15-2011 12:36 PM

Well, obviously Kevin, you are not a Met fan.

CMIZ5290 02-15-2011 01:37 PM

Just kidding, i follow mostly pre-war though. Why would you certify the ball anyway? What could his autograph possibly be worth? $10-20?

shimozukawa 02-16-2011 12:43 AM

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blackmamba 02-16-2011 05:29 PM

Okay, I might have to do that. Thanks for the info. Brandon

shimozukawa 02-16-2011 05:47 PM

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