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teetwoohsix 07-29-2010 01:57 PM

My opinion would be to leave the sheet intact the way it is and not cut them down into individual cards.

But if one were to cut them down, couldn't the owner of the sheet contact the Topps company and pay them to "factory cut" the sheet down into individuals and therefore the cards would, by definition, be "factory cut"- or would they still get an "authentic" grade?

Maybe Topps uses different machinery and couldn't reproduce the same cut?

Clayton

botn 07-29-2010 02:57 PM

VCBC issue #7 is more groundbreaking than anything else. It was really the first time an admitted "card doctor" was interviewed and discussed what he was able to do to cards. 1996 was ages ago. The processes used now are far more difficult to detect, there are more people able to do some or all of them and those people have gotten better at it over time.

If you are not a know it all and want to be more current with what can be done to cards you really need to spend time on Kevin Saucier's site. http://www.alteredcards.com/other.htm

VCBC issue #7 is not the end of the education one can acquire on this matter-- it is merely the jumping off point.

Jim VB 07-29-2010 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by teetwoohsix (Post 825905)
My opinion would be to leave the sheet intact the way it is and not cut them down into individual cards.

But if one were to cut them down, couldn't the owner of the sheet contact the Topps company and pay them to "factory cut" the sheet down into individuals and therefore the cards would, by definition, be "factory cut"- or would they still get an "authentic" grade?

Maybe Topps uses different machinery and couldn't reproduce the same cut?

Clayton

I doubt Topps would be interested in this project. Topps did NOT release full sheets of their cards in those days. So, technically, they could claim that any full sheets out there were obtained unlawfully. (Although the statute of limitations probably ran out 50+ years ago.)

As a kid, my brothers and I often received many uncut sheets, but they were courtesy of the man who hauled trash from the Topps plant in Brooklyn. Unfortunately, we cut them all up, and not carefully, I might add.

Rob D. 07-29-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 825926)
I doubt Topps would be interested in this project. Topps did NOT release full sheets of their cards in those days. So, technically, they could claim that any full sheets out there were obtained unlawfully. (Although the statute of limitations probably ran out 50+ years ago.)

As a kid, my brothers and I often received many uncut sheets, but they were courtesy of the man who hauled trash from the Topps plant in Brooklyn. Unfortunately, we cut them all up, and not carefully, I might add.

Hey, guy, you've got a typo in your post. It's statue of limitations.

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2010 07:20 PM

That's in the dictionary right after the Statute of Liberty.

Matt 07-29-2010 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 825963)
It's statue of limitations.

It's not a statue!

Rob D. 07-29-2010 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 825968)
That's in the dictionary right after the Statute of Liberty.

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Originally Posted by Matt (Post 825970)
It's not a statue!

It's statue of limitations.

Understand?

dstudeba 07-29-2010 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rob D. (Post 825972)
It's statue of limitations.

Understand?

No, sorry I don't.

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2010 07:48 PM

I think we are not privy to the in joke.

Kawika 07-29-2010 07:52 PM

http://www.seinfeldscripts.com/TheCafe.html

Matt 07-29-2010 07:55 PM

This is the line I was quoting:

Jerry: Statute of limitations. It's not a statue.

Rob D. 07-29-2010 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 825979)
I think we are not privy to the in joke.

You misconstrued what I was saying.

Peter_Spaeth 07-29-2010 08:25 PM

I am so lost.....

Anthony S. 07-29-2010 08:29 PM

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The Statue of Limitations:

dstudeba 07-29-2010 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 825992)
I am so lost.....

+1


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