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dstudeba 05-12-2010 08:39 AM

This could possibly be my last post for a very long time, but I have never found Jim to be intellectually stupid.

As for the original post, I found some very nice cards in this offering.

Orioles1954 05-12-2010 09:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 807207)
Jim, now who would have thought that such an educated guy could be so intellectually stupid? But then again, I actually work for what I have in my life so excuse me for being so cynical at times as nothing has ever been handed to me.

Guys, this is so beneath you both.

Wesley 05-12-2010 09:21 AM

Agreed.

Can we save the personal insults for auction houses, dealers and grading companies?

Bicem 05-12-2010 10:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wesley (Post 807228)
Agreed.

Can we save the personal insults for auction houses, dealers and grading companies?


:D

birdman42 05-12-2010 11:23 AM

Curious listing
 
What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

E93 05-12-2010 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman42 (Post 807249)
What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

They are different items. There are clear markings that indicate they are different. For example, the mark on the ebay item above the second dot before "schedule" in the line "...Schedule..."

JimB

terjung 05-12-2010 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by birdman42 (Post 807249)
What are the chances that this eBay lot with a BIN
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...=STRK:MEWAX:IT

is a different item from this catalog listing?
http://legendaryauctions.com/LotDeta...100&category=1

Things that make you go, "Hmm."

Bill

What am I missing? They look different to me.

autograf 05-12-2010 11:36 AM

Probably from same source.........

Does Dave Forman consigning to Legendary Auctions mean that the lawsuit with Mastro et al is off? Or is the clear deliniation between the two companies sufficent insulation for him to feel comfortable with consigning?

Peter_Spaeth 05-12-2010 11:47 AM

Speaking of clear delineations, Doug Allen is still listed as the President of Ketap Company (successor in interest to Mastro Auctions) on the Illinois Secretary of State website.

http://www.ilsos.gov/corporatellc/Co...eLlcController

slidekellyslide 05-12-2010 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by autograf (Post 807255)
Probably from same source.........

Does Dave Forman consigning to Legendary Auctions mean that the lawsuit with Mastro et al is off? Or is the clear deliniation between the two companies sufficent insulation for him to feel comfortable with consigning?

Forman consigned with REA...I'm not aware that he's consigned with Legendary.

bmarlowe1 05-16-2010 12:29 AM

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Thanks to my friend Bob R. for pointing out this photo (lot 705) labeled as Billy Nash is really Dick Johnston. I downloaded the same physical photo from a collector's web-site (zmotive) some time ago. I noticed there that it was incorrectly ID'd as Nash.

wonkaticket 05-16-2010 01:21 AM

Nice catch Mark & Bob.

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...scan0008-5.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/piojohn...e/scan0008.jpg

Bicem 05-16-2010 08:10 AM

Nice catch Mark, SGC should hire you for player identification!

3-2-count 05-16-2010 08:32 AM

I thought Nash looked different in that one, but just thought it may have been a younger pic of him. Great work Mark, as always....

bmarlowe1 05-16-2010 06:08 PM

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Jeff - I've been told by a respected board member that telling collectors/consignors that their identifications are wrong often results in yelling and screaming :eek:. I don't doubt it. It seems to have a special place - even beyond disagreements over card grading.

That same image, correctly identified as Johnston, appeared in "A History of the Boston Base Ball Club", by George Tuohey, published by M. F. Quinn, 1897.

slidekellyslide 05-17-2010 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by bmarlowe1 (Post 808547)
Jeff - I've been told by a respected board member that telling collectors/consignors that their identifications are wrong often results in yelling and screaming :eek:. I don't doubt it. It seems to have a special place - even beyond disagreements over card grading.

This is true...I once told a poster that his photo was not Lou Gehrig and he took it to a very personal level.

Bicem 05-17-2010 10:24 AM

guess people prefer delusion?

Peter_Spaeth 05-17-2010 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 808646)
guess people prefer delusion?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8hGvQtumNAY

tbob 05-17-2010 10:43 AM

legendary is now open for bidding.

barrysloate 05-17-2010 11:15 AM

With regard to photo identification, collectors generally have a fair amount of money sunk into their photographs, so if they are told that these images are misidentified, it's going to hurt them in the pocketbook. Thus, many will not react favorably.

Also, in some situations there is simply a disagreement between two different parties. One insists it is, the other insists it isn't, and neither accepts the other's viewpoint. In these situations it is possible to never have a consensus.

bmarlowe1 05-17-2010 11:49 AM

There may be a scientific study on this, I don’t know. My experience indicates that it is true that the facial recognition part of the brain is significantly affected by external influences such as:

1) an identification provided by a supposed authority
2) a personal stake of some kind in the identification
<O:p</O:p
I have seen examples of this that are completely ludicrous. In one case a major league team provided a photo of a person who was claimed to be a very well-known prior owner of the team for a magazine cover. Though was no resemblance whatsover to the real person (fat, full head of straight hair vs. thin with very curly hair and a receding hair-line), people could not decide whether or not this was the right person. It took a demonstration of ear-mismatch to get the cover changed.

calvindog 05-17-2010 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 808658)
With regard to photo identification, collectors generally have a fair amount of money sunk into their photographs, so if they are told that these images are misidentified, it's going to hurt them in the pocketbook. Thus, many will not react favorably.

Isn't this willful blindness apparent whenever anyone's cards or favorite auction house for consignments is criticized?

Peter_Spaeth 05-17-2010 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 808661)
Isn't this willful blindness apparent whenever anyone's cards or favorite auction house for consignments are criticized?

Or grading service.

calvindog 05-17-2010 12:21 PM

Peter, you're just still angry that your white whale, the 1967 Mantle in PSA 7, has continued to elude you.

Bicem 05-17-2010 12:26 PM

I don't know about all that guys, but I did pick up this sweet King Kelly photo the other day.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...rner%20cab.jpg

barrysloate 05-17-2010 12:28 PM

That is King Kelly...King Kelly of Lithuania.

Bicem 05-17-2010 12:29 PM

take it back! you're just jealous!!! :mad::mad::mad::mad:

Rob D. 05-17-2010 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bicem (Post 808670)
I don't know about all that guys, but I did pick up this sweet King Kelly photo the other day.

http://photos.imageevent.com/ltsgall...rner%20cab.jpg

Put a crowd of 75-100 kids around him, and that's the spitting image of a young Joe DiMaggio.

Peter_Spaeth 05-17-2010 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 808669)
Peter, you're just still angry that your white whale, the 1967 Mantle in PSA 7, has continued to elude you.

No worries, I will find someone who can make a 6 into an 8.

slidekellyslide 05-17-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 808682)
No worries, I will find someone who can make a 6 into an 8.

You'll probably need a plastic surgeon or a urologist for that.

calvindog 05-17-2010 01:09 PM

I'm pretty certain Peter is more in the mid-range grade in that department. Perhaps a VG++++. Like the description on the label it sounds awesome.

bmarlowe1 05-17-2010 03:32 PM

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Hey Jeff - it's Fred Dunlap. Nice pick-up.

edited to add:
[BTW - in resonse to a few communications - I have to make it clear that this was a joke - the point was to show how easy it was to find a ballplayer that "resembles" almost any given photo.]

Bicem 05-17-2010 04:06 PM

http://blog.seattlepi.com/thebigblog...oosimpsons.jpg

Thanks Mark!!!!!!

Old Hoss 05-23-2010 03:19 PM

trustworthy?
 
I'm new to collecting, and am just wondering if you all consider it safe to bid with Legendary.

Thanks!

Matt 05-23-2010 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Hoss (Post 811001)
I'm new to collecting, and am just wondering if you all consider it safe to bid with Legendary.

Hi - welcome to pre-war! What do you mean by "safe?" You will get what you win if you win something if that's your concern.

barrysloate 05-23-2010 03:21 PM

Yes, I do.

Old Hoss 05-23-2010 03:25 PM

Thanks for the welcome and the quick replies! By "safe," I mean: are their descriptions/assessments correct? In terms of identifying the items correctly, and condition.

Some of the descriptions seem to lack the proper amount of detail (especially re: condition) that I might like for an internet auction.

barrysloate 05-23-2010 03:30 PM

If you have an issue with a description you can call them and ask for more details. I've done it many times and they have been very cooperative.

Old Hoss 05-23-2010 08:40 PM

Thanks for letting me know, Barry. I will be sure to call them.

perezfan 05-23-2010 09:00 PM

My experiences have all been positive since the split with Mastro as well. I understand the various criticisms, but also think that many on this Board have put them under a microscope, with far more scrutiny than any other auction house (except for maybe Coach's Corner).

But from my personal experience, everything has been exactly as described and shipped securely/promptly. Hope this helps...

tbob 05-24-2010 11:39 AM

No problems with Legendary other than their sending me a G/VG 1955 Bowman set instead of an EX/EXMT 1955 Bowman set (which I won) in the same auction. When I called them they apologized and took care of getting the right set to me.


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