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barrysloate 10-24-2009 12:54 PM

There was a player by the name of Vincent Nava who debuted with Providence in 1882. Although he was born in San Francisco, I've heard he was of Cuban descent. I can't confirm that, however.

Jim VB 10-24-2009 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by barrysloate (Post 757730)
There was a player by the name of Vincent Nava who debuted with Providence in 1882. Although he was born in San Francisco, I've heard he was of Cuban descent. I can't confirm that, however.

Generally the first Cuban to play in the bigs is acknowledged to be Esteban Enrique Bellan. He made his debut May 9, 1871.

He was not a pitcher, however, and the original statement was about pitching in the USA.

The understandable mix up with Robinson stood out to me only because he passed away recently and I read an article referencing his start in MLB and the timing 50+ years later with Mariano Rivera winding down his career.

barrysloate 10-24-2009 01:10 PM

Jim- now that I think of it, Bellan appeared on an 1871 Troy Haymakers CdV.

Potomac Yank 10-24-2009 01:48 PM

Jim, you're absolutely right .....
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jim VB (Post 757732)
Generally the first Cuban to play in the bigs is acknowledged to be Esteban Enrique Bellan. He made his debut May 9, 1871.

He was not a pitcher, however, and the original statement was about pitching in the USA.

The understandable mix up with Robinson stood out to me only because he passed away recently and I read an article referencing his start in MLB and the timing 50+ years later with Mariano Rivera winding down his career.

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Jim you're right, Esteban Bellan was the first Cuban to play professional baseball in the USA, just two years after the creation of professional teams.

At this moment I'm looking at an early program of a game played by the Troy Haymakers vs the New York Mutuals on October 2, 1871 at the Union Grounds.

Playing for the Haymakers:
McGerry, C.
York, C.F.
Flowers, S.S.
Flynn, 1st b.
King, l.f.
McMullin, p.
Pike, r.f.
Bellan, 3d b.
Craver, 2d b.

Playing for the Mutuals:
Hatfield, 2d b.
Patterson, l.f.
Start, 1st b.
Wolters, p.
Eggler, c.f.
Mills, c.
Ferguson, 3d b.
Pearce, s.s.
Higham, r.f.

The program is scored, and the Mutuals won 16 - 7.
The first year of the National Association.

joeadcock 10-24-2009 06:47 PM

Jim VB

Do not believe your assertions regarding `me are accurate. They could be correct only if you knew me personally.

I will no longer comment on this thread.

Matt 10-24-2009 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Ladder7 (Post 757718)
Great image. Is it intentional the artist used a Johnson?

I also thought the collar/uni looked like Johnson's T206.


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