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eremin2000 07-21-2019 12:05 PM

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Trying to figure out photos.

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tedzan 11-18-2019 02:10 PM

1947 BOND BREAD cards
 
Daryl

The two Jackie Robinson cards in your picture should not have been graded "A" by SGC. These mis-graded JRobby cards
tell us that SGC is not really educated enough regarding these cards to grade them properly.

In 1947, I pulled a number of these 1947 rounded corner cards from BOND BREAD packages which had "square" corners
simply because the factory did not provide sufficient pressure on the die-cut machinery to shape that corner. The proof of
this is the die-cut impression on that card's "square" corner.

There are at least 4 (if not more) such mis-cut cards in my complete set of 48 cards.


TED Z

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topcat61 11-19-2019 11:14 AM

Tip Top and Bond Bread were issued by the same company -Ward Baking, whose parent company was General Baking when these 2 sets were issued in 1947.

Tip Top only issued cards for the cities that had teams -for example, Tip Top contained only cards of the Braves and Red Sox while New York were only issued Yankees, Giants and Dodgers, so collectors would see any other team.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Bond Bread cards were issued in states and cities that had no teams. Just a wild guess.

tedzan 11-19-2019 12:23 PM

1947 BOND BREAD cards
 
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Originally Posted by topcat61 (Post 1932448)
Tip Top and Bond Bread were issued by the same company -Ward Baking, whose parent company was General Baking when these 2 sets were issued in 1947.

Tip Top only issued cards for the cities that had teams -for example, Tip Top contained only cards of the Braves and Red Sox while New York were only issued Yankees, Giants and Dodgers, so collectors would see any other team.

I'll go out on a limb and say that Bond Bread cards were issued in states and cities that had no teams. Just a wild guess.


Ryan

Both 1947 BOND BREAD and TIP TOP cards were issued in states and cities which had Major League teams playing BB.

I don't understand this last statement of yours. It does not make any sense.

I collected these BOND BREAD cards as a very young kid in the Summer/Fall of 1947. We lived in NJ (less than a 1/2 hour away from NYC).
My cousins who lived in NYC collected these same cards.

The TIP TOP Set consists of 163 subjects which represent 11 teams in the Major Leagues.

The BOND BREAD set consists of 44 ballplayers....here is a team checklist:

NEW YORK GIANTS
-------------------
JOHNNY MIZE
SID GORDON
LARRY JANSEN
SHELDON JONES
BUDDY KERR
WHITEY LOCKMAN
WILLARD MARSHALL
BOBBY THOMSON

BROOKLYN DODGERS
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JACKIE ROBINSON
REX BARNEY
RALPH BRANCA
BRUCE EDWARDS
CARL FURILLO
JOE HATTEN
GIL HODGES
PEE WEE REESE


NEW YORK YANKEES
--------------------
JOE DiMAGGIO
LARRY BERRA
JOE GORDON
CHARLIE KELLER
JOHNNY LINDELL
PHIL RIZZUTO
AARON ROBINSON

BOSTON RED SOX
------------------
TED WILLIAMS
DOM DIMAGGIO
BOBBY DOERR
JOHNNY PESKY

CLEVELAND INDIANS
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BOB FELLER
LOU BOUDREAU
KEN KELTNER
BIRDIE TEBBETTS

ST LOUIS CARDINALS
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STAN MUSIAL
HARRY BRECHEEN
ENOS SLAUGHTER

BOSTON BRAVES
-----------------
JOHNNY SAIN
BOB ELLIOTT
TOMMY HOLMES

CINCINNATI REDS
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EWELL BLACKWELL
JOHNNY VANDERMEER

CHICAGO CUBS
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ANDY PAFKO

PHILADELPHIA ATHLETICS
--------------------------
EDDIE JOOST

PHILADELPHIA PHILLIES
-------------------------
DEL ENNIS

PITTSBURGH PIRATES
----------------------
RALPH KINER

ST LOUIS BROWNS
-------------------
VERN STEPHENS



TED Z

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topcat61 11-19-2019 12:35 PM

Well, I did say I'd go out on a limb :)

tedzan 04-08-2020 09:49 PM

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Mistaken post.

Aquarian Sports Cards 04-09-2020 06:23 AM

My favorite Bond Bread Card Does this enlighten or confuse?

https://birminghamauctioneersbid.com...91_1_10141.jpg

https://birminghamauctioneersbid.com...91_2_10142.jpg

tedzan 04-09-2020 07:26 AM

1947 BOND BREAD cards
 
Hi Scott

Nothing unusual....check-out my Joe DiMaggio card here....same effect. The factory simply did not punch thru with their die-cut machine on those two corners.

A close look at your "square" corners shows an imprint of the die-cut. Same is true for my DiMaggio card.


https://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan...pixbbcards.jpg


TED Z

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Aquarian Sports Cards 04-09-2020 07:44 AM

I noticed the impression from the missed cut, just thought I'd have some fun. I used to work in an ad agency that had it's own in-house print shop so I've seen some weird stuff and agree completely with your assessment. I also find it interesting how the curves aren't consistent. from shorter curves closer to the corner to curves that are slightly squared off, a lot of interesting things going on. Also I've never seen missed corner cuts on the same side, always seems to be opposite corners.

Hope you and yours are well and safe. See you...

...eventually!

abctoo 05-04-2020 01:51 PM

Warren Cooper card from "Sports Star Subjects" set?
 
I'm new to net54baseball, but have carefully read all of the posts in this thread (which has been ongoing since 2008). Unfortunately, several posted scans have been lost over time from the problems with image hosting websites.

One picture of importance to me may have been in Post #4 (from 2008), a picture of the Warren Cooper card from the "Sports Star Subjects" set. Whatever the scan was in Post #4 no longer appears and the weblink that shows up in its place doesn't work. If the scan was the Warren Cooper card, could you post it again? If it wasn't the Cooper card, would someone kindly post a scan of the Cooper card from the "Sports Star Subjects" set?

Second, which player that appeared in the 1947 Homogenized Bond Bread set was replaced in the "Sports Star Subjects" set by the Warren Cooper card?

Thanks for your help. Mike


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