Awesome card Jon. You must have an amazing Canseco collection.;)

An old friend of the variation thread was very gracious to send me a scan of his 58 Topps Dave Jolly print error card that fits in next to the 58 Enos Slaughter print error, now it looks like the card below Jolly, #189 George Susce, is probably affected with the missing black ink print flaw.

Great info Cliff

Looks like a 90 Topps Frank Thomas situation. Great find!

This one is not pre-1980, but I just discovered this in my McGwire box over the weekend. I know for a fact that it is reoccurring because I have 2 of these that are identical. I was just wondering if anybody knew how scarce it is, if at all. I do know that I searched Ebay and COMC and could not find another. Here it is.

<a href="https://postimg.cc/pyQgKzjc" target="_blank"><img src="https://i.postimg.cc/NGZBqxjt/20190908-144902.jpg" alt="20190908-144902"/></a>

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Not a print variation/error. But some kind of inventory label that got on the sheet before cutting, collating and packaging.

That's a good one sb

I've never seen anything like that before. It's one of the cooler cards I've seen.

Topps variations...
 

I found a few variants from my Topps collection...

A cool 58 Nellie Fox missing the yellow ink...

A 74 Stargell also missing yellow ink...

And a 94 Stadium Club Ryan no foil...

Another variant...
 

I also have a blank front 1970-71 Maravich rookie...found in a small collection I picked up a few years ago...

I love cards like this.

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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but the Fox and Stargel are NOT missing yellow error cards, they are altered. Both of those cards are faded from setting in the sun.

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Always liked the dash lines at the bottom on this one.


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Jon--- I like the Virdon. Do you know who is on the other card ? Calling DDBeat

Dan, following Ben's point take a look at the 63 Kaline thread on the forum page

Show...me...your print variations!
 

Thanks Al. I think it’s Mudcat Grant.

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Added later- Yep it is for sure.
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Not quite a printing variation, more of a cutting variation. I don't know enough about how Topps cut their sheets back in the day, so I'm wondering how something like this could happen - anyone know how the sheets were cut up? Were sheets fed into a machine, were blades run through stationary sheets?

I bought this from eBay a few years back - no way it was issued in a pack, so I'm guessing someone took it out of the factory when it was printed in '78.

Maybe Moser could fix it

I have plenty of cards like this from 70s and 80s rack packs. That's how bad Topps' quality control was back then.

Really? This isn't just a case where the image is tilted; the piece of cardboard itself is diamond shaped, with no 90 degree angles. These things were in packs? They must have stood out like sore thumbs and most must have come out of the package damaged.

A different type of mis-cut with this shortstop getting shorted twice!

Attachment 366795

I have never been able to figure out why they placed cards on the sheet in a random order. Wouldn't it make sense to place the cards on the sheet in number order? Was there a method to it?

The reason they did that was to have random numbered cards in wax, rack, and cello packs rather than a bunch of consecutive numbered cards in those packs.

So this post motivated me of taking a picture of a similar card. It is from 2007, when Topps was making a bunch of Mickey Mantle cards. This one I pulled from a pack myself. The two interesting things about this card:
1. There is masking tape on the front of it.
2. The card is torn about a third of the way through where the tape is.

Here are the pictures:
http://i.imgur.com/MDyt8XNl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/UmBNuJRl.jpg

I went and took pictures of just my Yankees errors. Not a lot of cards, only six cards in total. Only one is pre-1980, it is this 1976 Jim Hunter:
http://i.imgur.com/7SIrcuRl.jpg

I collect error cards of all sorts, including severly damaged, modified and defaced cards. BUT most of them are post 1980, so should I end up posting them into here, make a thread similar to this in the Modern Baseball cards section, or just make a thread for my own pictures? There is a lot of post 2000 content in this collect, including a lot of hockey cards.

We have had several post 80 variants in this thread but given the length of this thread it might be good to have a post 80 sister thread. Others may think otherwise.

That tape job is interesting. Maybe since the tape was added before insertion in the pack it qualifies as an intentional change to the card and thus a true variation :D

Finally found one of these

https://oi1267.photobucket.com/album...psxp4qqev9.jpg

Discussed by George Vrecheck in SCD article

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrE...7zBObuFfOmbJY-

https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1968...&size=original
1968 Topps - [Base] #369 - The Sporting News All Star Selection (Carl Yastrzemski)
Courtesy of COMC.com

Two recurring print defects on this one:
1) Black blemish in left banner
2) Red circle fisheye near B on cap

So three variations: regular, one with just black mark, and one with black mark and fisheye.

Is 1967 Topps yellow back a thing?
 

Hi there,

I've been lurking a while and saw something that might be of discussion here. Saw this 1967 Topps Wilhelm card and the back was discolored. Does anyone know if this is fading or weird ink circumstances? I've seen others like this from different series (no apparent pattern), and one card who's back was brownish. I don't know what to make of it.

Joel

Looks like the printing process was running low on green ink to me on the 1967 Wilhelm card.

I don't have a scan of the back
 

But it doesn't go with the front.

The Back ??
 

Whose names are on the back ? That's very decent for a "two" -- is there a problem we can't see ?
..

1976 Topps Thurman Munson.

Miscut
 

From 1959.. Stan The Man!

I have a 78 topps Eddie Murray rc with ink dot, anybody else have any info?

Not baseball, but an unusual 1970-71 Topps B-ball card with partially printed frame line.

So basically a sister variation to the Jackie Robinson with diamond logo cut off.

There is also a variation of this with white circle to the left of the Phillies ballcap in the diamond logo. I stopped counting when I saw 5 on COMC.
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1955...&size=original
1955 Topps - [Base] #29 - Herm Wehmeier [GOOD]
Courtesy of COMC.com

John---here is SCD article on the Robinson and Herm. Note the Herm has a back variation that tracks the truncated front logo. Had not noticed the white mark

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=Awr9...7QjDQppuh3T3I-

Is there generally a premium for the 1958 Slaughter that is missing the blank ink on the back? I recently found one in my collection and then did a quick search on EBay and didn’t see any. Just curious.

It is extremely rare. The only two that I know of are one that Al R. got on a pricey Buy-It-Now on eBay three years ago, and an unlisted one that I luckily found from Dean's Cards a year or so ago. The one I got was of course over priced considering it was from Dean's if it was just a normally printed 1958 Slaughter in very good condition, but being the rare print flaw version I was happy to pay the $17 or whatever it was. These types of cards are a niche only pursued by a small percentage of vintage collectors, most collectors either ignore them or look down upon those who collect them, but all it takes is two fervent bidders to fight over a very rare desired item.

Cliff: Thanks for the quick response. Here is the picture of the back of the card.Attachment 374880

Wow, it looks like it is very well centered and in nice condition, much better than my off centered soft cornered one.

A Cut Above.....
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...eyedge_NEW.jpg

..top edge was as much ripped from the sheet as it was "cut" ; yet this is a somewhat rare defect in the '57's from what I've seen....many many other defects exist though , with centering being at the tiptop of my bitchlist....I love this set ; completing a total totally complete , '57 set is a fun challenge and just wait 'til you try for both vars of the 4/5 checklists....

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I can vouch with what you stated. I have completed the 1957 Topps set with all checklist variations, but they are a BITCH! Especially checklists 4 / 5!

I also have one, so that makes three for sure.

Four, now :D. I just found another 58 Drabowsky on Dean’s Cards, so the 58 cards affected might not be as rare as I thought. Only one 58 Jolly is known of, hopefully a few more show up.

1962 #170 Dugan
 

Notice the orange blobs. There are MANY of these on COMC and eBay for sale.

1969 variation.

Hi does anyone happen to have a 1969 Washburn with white arm band pic available?

"Var=White slash bottom left corner plus white arm band"

I have seen the white slash bottom left but haven't noticed a variation/arm band...maybe I am missing something.

Thanks again.

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Do not have and have not seen the white arm band version. I do have 2 versions of the white slash at the left bottom border. In one it is all white and in the other it has a reddish or brownish mark in the white slash.

Where have you seen the white band listed ? Brightair ( Dingman) ?

Another variant collector ? What years ?

Welcome to the thread

Sun damage or not I still think this blue box Mantle is a sweet card:


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https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1960...&size=original
1960 Topps - [Base] #526 - Paul Giel [Good*to*VG‑EX]
Courtesy of COMC.com

Recurring two yellow streaks in inset.

Could it be something like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/362853762069

There is white on the shoulder on down past the elbow... and really looks like it goes down to the mark at the bottom.

Present in this one also: https://www.ebay.com/itm/233196339512

Otherwise if it is not that, it could be either a print error on the player in the background on the front, or perhaps on the cartoon guy on the back.

Trip— Not sure what the variant ejstel is looking for involves. Hopefully he will respond

Here are the four different that I have: the first is the smaller corner slash (no arm band), second is the larger corner slash with arm band (tough to see in scan), my excess yellow copy, and the copy with some left border missing. I think ejstel is referring to the 2nd copy (with red circle).

Cool! I just now seen this one, I missed it before. There are a handful on eBay so it doesn't appear to be rare. I found a scan of an uncut sheet to see who was on each side of Haskins, but neither Willie McCarter to the left or Don Ohl to the right have the black border line.

Thanks for posting those Larry

Re 1969 Washburn
...hi thank you I think it is the white on white arm line that I wasn't noticing in my search.

I had seen it listed in this lis (link below) but couldn't identify...

https://sites.google.com/site/richar...ns-1960---1969

Also thank you for posting all - and the yellow wash card... interesting.

Best,
Ed

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That is Richard Dingman's site. Great resource. He is a member and sometimes posts in this thread as brightair

Been a while since I contributed, forgive me if these have already been mentioned.

1973 Topps Rau rookie with black ink missing. I’ve seen quite a few, not super hard to het one.

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On the 62s you see the neon green color a lot because of the solution used to clean the printing plates. On the right card it completely wiped out the “r” in Cards. Haven’t seen another and I’ll trade it for a cool Dodgers print defect if anyone has one I don’t already have.

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Does anyone know if the bottom two Ray Washburn cards (the excess yellow and the faded left border)....are they reoccurring?

I have only one copy of the card with the extra yellow, however, I have a second copy of the card with parts of the left border missing. While I have not seen another copy with the extra yellow, I would imagine that it is recurring to some extent.

I mentioned this on the new variation site but it was probably confusing to most people reading it. I have shown these here before but I never mentioned the coolest part about them. The 1980 Topps cards of Ruppert Jones and Mike Vail can be found with a printing flaw where something partially blocked the final black ink print run. The 1980 Topps cards of Phil Niekro and Lee Mazzilli can also be found with the nearly identical print flaw. After some investigating I realized that Jones and Vail were the last two cards on the eighth horizontal row of the B* sheet and that the Niekro and Mazzilli cards were in the same exact spot on the D* sheet, the last two cards on the eighth horizontal row. That tells me that the blockage was on the printing press, so that when the full 264 card A* and B* sheet was put through the printing process a certain number of the sheets were printed with the flaw. At some point the 264 card A* and B* sheet was replaced by the 264 card C* and D* sheet with the blockage still on the printing press so that a certain number of that sheet were also printed with the same identical flaw. I have never been able to find any examples of the two cards in that spot on the F* sheet, the Yankees team card and the Indians team card, so I don't know if it also affected the 264 card E* and F* sheet.

Great detective work Cliff

Found this fairly limited recurring print anomaly along the bottom edge on the 63 LeMaster card. Seems that 2 of about 200 cards available (ebay, comc) have this print defect. Before Cliff can ask, yes, I looked at the card that borders along the bottom edge to see if the anomaly carried over onto that card (#69 Zipfel) and did not see anything conclusive (except for the one below with a mark that does not appear to match up).

Blue Ray
 

I found this Ray Nitschke in a big lot of 1969 Topps football cards that I recently picked up. There are 6-7 Nitschke cards in the lot and when I first sorted through them I buzzed past this one, assuming some kid years ago had used a marker or paint on it.

Upon closer inspection, the blue coloring is IN the card, not ON it. Kinda cool and I'll add it to my growing collection of "print freaks," which has become a fun side interest for me.

Just picked this up. Busted yellow plate

Notice the white area of where cardinals logo should be yellow, is the same as the yellow in the white name box. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...59a047d0c0.jpg

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A Yaz with lots of yellow and some white print anomalies as well.

Nice find Dennis....a while back I came across both an extra yellow copy (right sleeve, back ground/clouds) and an extra red copy (top of hat, background stands).

Found this 71 T Hisle card with what looks like some non-factory ink spilled on the card while out in circulation. However, it seems to be a print variant afterall as I was able to locate another copy of this card with what appears to be the same print anomaly but with far less ink. It almost looks like during the printing process someone tried to but was not able to remove all signs of this anomaly in subsequent printings. Anyone else have a copy of either?

Battersbox on eBay has a nice copy of the lighter version... well they did two minutes ago anyway :D.

Hi Ted.

What's your take on my recently purchased Walker Cooper card? Not near as much yellow as yours but I assume the same/similar story?

That's a crazy one. There must have been something spilled on some part of the camera equipment for it to have ended up on both the black and magenta plates (maybe others too? )

I posted this 1977 Topps recurring print flaw a few years ago on this thread, I figured I would have an update of it with new additions. I still haven't found examples of Charlie Williams, Larry Biittner, Andres Mora, Jim Bibby, Bruce Boisclair, Gaylord Perry, and I am always looking for better examples and upgrades of the ones I have.

Cliff, since you first posted about this, I have found a few....the Roberts, DaVanon and Bibby I had not seen before. What is interesting is that some copies of the same card have varying levels of this anomaly showing. The Foster I show has much less than yours and on the two Dobson cards the difference is quite noticeable. The Bonham and Reed are non-related variants.

You are right about the varying degrees, ideally I am trying to end up with examples that are 50/50 right down the middle. My Alan Foster goes a little too far and I would like to end up with one closer to yours. I have a Boisclair but it doesn't match the pattern at all, too large and it wound up on the wrong side. Your Bibby would fit in perfectly because it is roughly 50/50, and your Dobson would be a better example than mine. I believe you also have an Aurelio Rodriguez that is a better example than mine. The Roberts and the DaVanon are from different sheets, I have some that are from different sheets but they are so rare and random that I haven't been able to pick up patterns of which cards are affected on those sheets. The Bonham is on a different sheet and is recurring. It also affects the Tiant next to it, but it is much less on the Tiant.

Takes a lot to impress me given that I've been chasing printing flaws for years, but these two definitely got my attention:

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ckless%201.jpg

1971 Topps blackless

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0Stock%201.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...0Stock%202.jpg

1972 Topps flipped stock.

Best of all, got 'em here on the BST.

The 1971 looks like a progressive proof to me.

I thought so too but the back is completely printed.

http://photos.imageevent.com/exhibit...ckless%202.jpg