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Casey2296 05-23-2024 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2436552)
That's wonderful. Hopefully the thief gets a nice new home courtesy of the state.

Opening and sorting junk wax packs for the duration of their sentence.

Super happy for Daryl, Powell, and the other winning bidders to have the option to close out their deals. Happy for ML and the consignors too.

BigfootIsReal 05-23-2024 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2436542)
AMAZING! All you blowhards whose opinions never mattered...still dont matter~

You know who you are. Complete blathering idiots!

WHAT A WASTE OF OXYGEN AND ELECTRICITY MY GOD


"uhh yea but but but but but...they were in the wrong"


guess they are STILL MEMORY LANE'S CARDS TO SELL...eh.....eh...eh?

Or no they belong to the consignors, or police or the belong to the bidder now, the cards are "recovered theft" and worthless

COME ON DIMWITS...we are waiting!!!!

Absolutely! They just couldn't wait for it to play out and let people do THEIR job(s)! Always have to jump to conclusions because they THINK they have the right to know everything!

G1911 05-23-2024 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436560)
Confinement to the Best Western?

I was thinking a nice little prison cell. I’m not sure anyone deserves the Best Western, after all :D

Carter08 05-23-2024 03:18 PM

Two cards still missing. The story lives!!!

chalupacollects 05-23-2024 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436560)
Confinement to the Best Western?

Wouldn't that be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

G1911 05-23-2024 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2436570)
Two cards still missing. The story lives!!!

Plus, of course, that the later recovery of the items does not change that they hosted a fake auction for items they did not have. I’m not sure if folks just do not understand the actual objections or are willfully ignoring the actual objections made to try and frame it as if eventual recovery is contradictory to the dissenters statements and proof positive that those against the undeniable lies are inherently wrong.

Cliff Bowman 05-23-2024 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BigfootIsReal (Post 2436564)
Absolutely! They just couldn't wait for it to play out and let people do THEIR job(s)! Always have to jump to conclusions because they THINK they have the right to know everything!

Too bad you didn’t join a couple of months sooner.

Carter08 05-23-2024 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2436572)
Plus, of course, that the later recovery of the items does not change that they hosted a fake auction for items they did not have. I’m not sure if folks just do not understand the actual objections or are willfully ignoring the actual objections made to try and frame it as if eventual recovery is contradictory to the dissenters statements and proof positive that those against the undeniable lies are inherently wrong.

I hear you. You’re preaching to the choir. There will still be certain people repeatedly screaming that everyone else is a blowhard without recognizing the irony in what they say.

ClementeFanOh 05-23-2024 03:30 PM

recovery of stolen cards
 
First and foremost, GREAT news on the recovery of the stolen cards. I
look forward to a much more thorough explanation of events.

Idea for punishment of thief- he must serve all the Old Fashioneds and Ambien
combos to RepublicaninMass before he posts his ridiculous comments. On
second thought, that's cruel and unusual... Jail time must suffice!

Trent King

Republicaninmass 05-23-2024 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ClementeFanOh (Post 2436575)
First and foremost, GREAT news on the recovery of the stolen cards. I
look forward to a much more thorough explanation of events.

Idea for punishment of thief- he must serve all the Old Fashioneds and Ambien
combos to RepublicaninMass before he posts his ridiculous comments. On
second thought, that's cruel and unusual... Jail time must suffice!

Trent King

Is that your coping cocktail Trent?

I was thinking more like whisky and Metamucil

Republicaninmass 05-23-2024 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2436572)
Plus, of course, that the later recovery of the items does not change that they hosted a fake auction for items they did not have. I’m not sure if folks just do not understand the actual objections or are willfully ignoring the actual objections made to try and frame it as if eventual recovery is contradictory to the dissenters statements and proof positive that those against the undeniable lies are inherently wrong.

Yes fake!! They never owned them, the whole thing was made up with fake photos! Fake fake fake

FRAUDULENT according to our armchair attorney A Dum Guy, esq.

Republicaninmass 05-23-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2436574)
I hear you. You’re preaching to the choir. There will still be certain people repeatedly screaming that everyone else is a blowhard without recognizing the irony in what they say.


Yes we are the world!! Kumbayah!!!

I'm going to peruse the catalog again to see the fraudulent items I didn't bid on, but passionately argue my views on and demand justice!

JUSTICE!!!

Snowman 05-23-2024 03:39 PM

Recovery of the cards is great for the consigners and the winning bidders. But it changes nothing about whether or not ML made unwise and/or unethical decisions along the way.

Reminds me of why poker can often be so profitable. Player A turns a straight and moves all in for $10k with one card to come in a $1k pot. Player B has a flush draw and calls the $10k bet. River card brings the flush. Player B celebrates and half the table tells him he made the right call because he caught his flush.

G1911 05-23-2024 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2436578)
Yes fake!! They never owned them, the whole thing was made up with fake photos! Fake fake fake

FRAUDULENT according to our armchair attorney A Dum Guy, esq.

Are you okay? You’re so over the top in this thread it’s weird, invoking religious prejudice, your class bullshit, constant willful misstatement of what you’re arguing against. Why are you taking this so personally and lashing out so nonsensically?

Carter08 05-23-2024 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2436581)
Recovery of the cards is great for the consigners and the winning bidders. But it changes nothing about whether or not ML made unwise and/or unethical decisions along the way.

Reminds me of why poker can often be so profitable. Player A turns a straight and moves all in for $10k with one card to come in a $1k pot. Player B has a flush draw and calls the $10k bet. River card brings the flush. Player B celebrates and half the table tells him he made the right call because he caught his flush.

Good news is they have plenty of money now to pay for the poorly scanned Gehrig.

jayshum 05-23-2024 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2436570)
Two cards still missing. The story lives!!!

Where did you see that 2 cards are still missing? The email that was sent doesn't say anything about that.

Mark17 05-23-2024 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436560)
Confinement to the Best Western?

Yes, a regular Best Western, and NOT a Best Western Plus.

Republicaninmass 05-23-2024 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by G1911 (Post 2436582)
Are you okay? You’re so over the top in this thread it’s weird, invoking religious prejudice, your class bullshit, constant willful misstatement of what you’re arguing against. Why are you taking this so personally and lashing out so nonsensically?

Pot...the kettle is calling :rolleyes:

Carter08 05-23-2024 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by jayshum (Post 2436584)
Where did you see that 2 cards are still missing? The email that was sent doesn't say anything about that.

I’m just going off of SCD.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

G1911 05-23-2024 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Republicaninmass (Post 2436590)
Pot...the kettle is calling :rolleyes:

Yes, show me my statements supporting religious bigotry and classism. Go ahead, find them.

jayshum 05-23-2024 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Carter08 (Post 2436591)

Thanks. They left that out of the email they sent.

brianp-beme 05-23-2024 04:40 PM

From the SCD article: Jacob Paxton, 27, of Brunswick, OH, was arrested Wednesday and is facing felony theft charges.


Leon, no Net54 membership for this fellow!

Glad they tracked down the cards (52 of the 54) and made the arrest. On a side note, I am positive that Memory Lane has revised their 'shipping to event' procedures.


brianp(arker)-beme

Carter08 05-23-2024 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by brianp-beme (Post 2436597)
From the SCD article: Jacob Paxton, 27, of Brunswick, OH, was arrested Wednesday and is facing felony theft charges.


Leon, no Net54 membership for this fellow!

Glad they tracked down the cards (52 of the 54) and made the arrest. On a side note, I am positive that Memory Lane has revised their 'shipping to event' procedures.


brianp(arker)-beme

Pretty amazing. For anyone not interested in the article it sounds like he tried to sell a few to a local dealer.

Peter_Spaeth 05-23-2024 06:01 PM

Memory Lane expects to receive the stolen cards fairly soon and will allow the winning bidders to complete payment if they desire.

Return Fed Ex?

Republicaninmass 05-23-2024 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by calvindog (Post 2436543)
Wow, it's almost like the advice ML took was the right advice.


I don't always use the opinions of others, but when I do, I use the ones of net54 dimwit posters

4815162342 05-23-2024 06:37 PM

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

ajjohnsonsoxfan 05-23-2024 06:58 PM

Hoping the 14 Matty was recovered as well!

Casey2296 05-23-2024 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by ajjohnsonsoxfan (Post 2436625)
Hoping the 14 Matty was recovered as well!

The article said the two missing cards had a value of $90,000, the Matty went for $145,000 so I think he's safe.

Aquarian Sports Cards 05-23-2024 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2436626)
The article said the two missing cards had a value of $90,000, the Matty went for $145,000 so I think he's safe.

Also pretty sure the culprit will do everything he can to get the location of those two cards to the police. Anything to mitigate at this point.

rand1com 05-23-2024 07:08 PM

For the most part, the final resolution is about the best that could have been hoped for.

The consignors get the value they deserved, the bidders get the cards they wanted at the price they were willing to pay, the auction house gets their commission, and most importantly, the thief will likely spend some significant time in jail.

mrreality68 05-23-2024 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rand1com (Post 2436630)
For the most part, the final resolution is about the best that could have been hoped for.

The consignors get the value they deserved, the bidders get the cards they wanted at the price they were willing to pay, the auction house gets their commission, and most importantly, the thief will likely spend some significant time in jail.

The thief will probably get more followers on social media

Leon 05-23-2024 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2436622)
I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

That is freaking awesome. Great news!!
.

4815162342 05-23-2024 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Leon (Post 2436634)
That is freaking awesome. Great news!!
.


Many thanks, Leon.

parkplace33 05-23-2024 08:09 PM

Glad to hear this story has a happy ending.

I guess we will find this perp got a hold of the package.

Exhibitman 05-23-2024 08:14 PM

Thankfully, those landmark cards are not lost to the hobby; that would have been a shame.

jimtodd 05-23-2024 08:28 PM

It figures ML silence had to be related to the investigation - happy they're able to make (nearly) everyone whole again.

Not a bad day for law enforcement in the hobby. This recovery, and the Anthony Curcio fake PSA slab arrest (https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ver-2-million/).

Casey2296 05-23-2024 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jimtodd (Post 2436646)
It figures ML silence had to be related to the investigation - happy they're able to make (nearly) everyone whole again.

Not a bad day for law enforcement in the hobby. This recovery, and the Anthony Curcio fake PSA slab arrest (https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...ver-2-million/).

That's an awesome story, glad to see federal law enforcement focused on protecting the little guy.

Peter_Spaeth 05-23-2024 09:10 PM

o further their alleged fraud scheme, Curcio ordered several items necessary to create forged card cases and labels to pass off the cards as graded, court documents allege.

They included plastic holders, thermal transfer barcode labels, a magnifier loupe optical glass, a handheld inkjet printer, a lock-cutting kit, an electric grinding pen, an abrasive buffer and polishing wheel, an abrasive and bristle brushes and drill bits designed for engraving, prosecutors said.

“Anthony Curcio and Iosif Bondarchuk carried out a brazen, nationwide fraud scheme involving valuable sports and Pokémon trading cards to deceive buyers and marketplaces, ultimately amassing over $2 million in fraudulent and attempted sales,” U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said in a statement. “Curcio and Bondarchuk allegedly sold and tried to sell at inflated prices cards of various professional athletes, including, among others, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Nolan Ryan, Larry Bird, Julius Erving, and Magic Johnson, as well as various valuable Pokémon cards.

Hmmmm.. I bet it's a lot more than $2 million if it went on for years.

perezfan 05-23-2024 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by mrreality68 (Post 2436631)
The thief will probably get more followers on social media

:D

notfast 05-24-2024 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2436622)
I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

Curious if you still are paying the BP.

babraham 05-24-2024 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by 4815162342 (Post 2436622)
I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

That's great news!
That was my biggest concern, that the thief would have dumped the cards when he felt the police closing in.

Snowman 05-24-2024 12:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436656)
o further their alleged fraud scheme, Curcio ordered several items necessary to create forged card cases and labels to pass off the cards as graded, court documents allege.

They included plastic holders, thermal transfer barcode labels, a magnifier loupe optical glass, a handheld inkjet printer, a lock-cutting kit, an electric grinding pen, an abrasive buffer and polishing wheel, an abrasive and bristle brushes and drill bits designed for engraving, prosecutors said.

“Anthony Curcio and Iosif Bondarchuk carried out a brazen, nationwide fraud scheme involving valuable sports and Pokémon trading cards to deceive buyers and marketplaces, ultimately amassing over $2 million in fraudulent and attempted sales,” U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said in a statement. “Curcio and Bondarchuk allegedly sold and tried to sell at inflated prices cards of various professional athletes, including, among others, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Nolan Ryan, Larry Bird, Julius Erving, and Magic Johnson, as well as various valuable Pokémon cards.

Hmmmm.. I bet it's a lot more than $2 million if it went on for years.

In a perhaps ironic twist, this isn't Curcio's first runin with the law either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Curcio

brunswickreeves 05-24-2024 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Snowman (Post 2436669)
In a perhaps ironic twist, this isn't Curcio's first runin with the law either.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Curcio

Summarized life of crime story, if the same person:

1. Gambling business gets shut down by local authorities for no permitting
2. Next forges prescription labels (apparently practice for PSA flips)
3. Then Burn Notice-style robs armored truck security guard of $400K in BoA cash (spends 6 years in prison where he pens 20 kids books and a multi-award winning memoir on his addiction and robbery) then makes a business out of inspirational speaking akin to ‘Catch me if you can’
4. Now expands career (age 43) to a $2MM+ sports/Pokemon card PSA holder manipulation scheme

Prediction for his next book: ‘It’s a Hard Knock Life, Steal From Others to Ease the Strife’

Kidnapped18 05-24-2024 06:26 AM

Awesome news!! Glad the cards were recovered!

steve B 05-24-2024 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Casey2296 (Post 2436561)
Opening and sorting junk wax packs for the duration of their sentence.

Super happy for Daryl, Powell, and the other winning bidders to have the option to close out their deals. Happy for ML and the consignors too.

Ans it's all searched racks and cellos, they get an hour off for any hyped rookie they find from each set.

Andrew1975 05-24-2024 08:50 AM

Great job, Strongsville PD!

Rhotchkiss 05-24-2024 08:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrew1975 (Post 2436707)
Great job, Strongsville PD!

+1

Lorewalker 05-24-2024 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436656)
o further their alleged fraud scheme, Curcio ordered several items necessary to create forged card cases and labels to pass off the cards as graded, court documents allege.

They included plastic holders, thermal transfer barcode labels, a magnifier loupe optical glass, a handheld inkjet printer, a lock-cutting kit, an electric grinding pen, an abrasive buffer and polishing wheel, an abrasive and bristle brushes and drill bits designed for engraving, prosecutors said.

“Anthony Curcio and Iosif Bondarchuk carried out a brazen, nationwide fraud scheme involving valuable sports and Pokémon trading cards to deceive buyers and marketplaces, ultimately amassing over $2 million in fraudulent and attempted sales,” U.S. Attorney Damian Williams said in a statement. “Curcio and Bondarchuk allegedly sold and tried to sell at inflated prices cards of various professional athletes, including, among others, Michael Jordan, Tom Brady, Nolan Ryan, Larry Bird, Julius Erving, and Magic Johnson, as well as various valuable Pokémon cards.

Hmmmm.. I bet it's a lot more than $2 million if it went on for years.

The thing that stood out in the story to me, was this one sentence: PSA says its Brand Protection division worked with the FBI during the investigation. The focus there has never been about the end user but always about the impact on the brand and doing whatever possible to protect it. They keep details of crimes like this very quiet even after arrests have been made. People cheer someone is going to jail meanwhile, in this case, it is not clear if all of the fake holdered cards were confiscated.

Peter_Spaeth 05-24-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Lorewalker (Post 2436748)
The thing that stood out in the story to me, was this one sentence: PSA says its Brand Protection division worked with the FBI during the investigation. The focus there has never been about the end user but always about the impact on the brand and doing whatever possible to protect it. They keep details of crimes like this very quiet even after arrests have been made. People cheer someone is going to jail meanwhile, in this case, it is not clear if all of the fake holdered cards were confiscated.

My guess is they've been widely sold into the marketplace by now, and if WIWAG and Copperfield (Mexican fakes) are any indication, the public will never know which cards are involved.

Lorewalker 05-24-2024 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Peter_Spaeth (Post 2436760)
My guess is they've been widely sold into the marketplace by now, and if WIWAG and Copperfield (Mexican fakes) are any indication, the public will never know which cards are involved.

On behalf of all those in the Set Registry, I want to thank PSA for protecting the brand! Well done.

Me thinks that people place way too much trust in some of these protected brands.


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