It is a 61 Topps McCovey. I have the 3 different McNertey cards plus 2 more someplace. One is a Goudey I picked up from an auction in the BST section and the other one is in the junk era, no idea who though. I also bought it from a fellow member.

Correct pose, wrong year on the McCovey....I have only two finger print variations of the McNertney plus the "clean" version, do you have a third finger print version?

Yes I have very light, medium, and really nice versions of the fingerprint on the McNertney. Here is a pic I found on my computer of all 3. I have been drastically reducing my collection so I can't find anything.

Thought
 

I thought ya'll might enjoy these. Are these common? Any tougher then the rest? Thanks, Pat

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4333/3...4b6700cc_b.jpg

http://farm5.staticflickr.com/4336/3...65bb82ec_b.jpg

very nice! Most are massive overinking, not all that common.
The 58 is the most severe batch of fisheyes I've seen.
The 74 Spencer is about as far off as a factory cut gets for tilt. I have a 75 that's way worse, but the person I got it from later said they made it from a scrap of uncut sheet.

I have a very similar looking 79 Schmidt card. While not the same as the card you picture, I have two (nearly identical) over-inked copies each of 3-4 different 79 Topps FB cards. IMO, 1979 was one of Topps' worst years for over-inking....I do not recall previous or subsequent years being nearly as bad as '79 in regards to the over-inking.

I have yet to see a 70 Topps Kilkenny with color in the card's# circle ....while he has not seen a copy himself, Richard D's variation list hints there may be a copy with color in the # circle.

Thank you Ben, I will keep an eye out for the third version as that is the one I do not have.

http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8kbxpbo.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps1e570355.jpg
http://i1267.photobucket.com/albums/...ps8efb4de6.jpg

I didn't see this mentioned, but 1948 Bowman Enos Slaughter RC:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1948...zoom&side=back
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1948...zoom&side=back

#1 in 17 either has a tail or doesn't. Recurring print variation.

Good one, John

Since we're at 48 Bowmans, I was reminded of this pic I put together from Ebay scans.
The Feller has three different sets of white boxes at the top, or none.
http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=23153

Question
 

I have the 1948 bowman Feller with the slits and the notes but would like to see what others consider to be the third "box" variation. Thanks.

This one is on ebay now.Looks a little different . What do you mean by slits and notes, Thomas ?

http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/S2EAAO...cV/s-l1600.jpg

1948 Feller
 

Here is the scan of my three versions and the upper one looks like this. I have the slits and the none versions but indications are that there is a fourth version with windows.

1964 Topps 223
 

Nice find John....

I first noticed this one today, may have missed it in the past. The limited, but recurring yellow print spot found on the "N" in Twins

1973 Topps Scipio Spinks has a bunch of broken border variations.

Full borders:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...&size=original

Broken Right Side:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...&size=original

Broken Top (common):
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...&size=original

Broken top, left, and right:
https://img.comc.com/i/Baseball/1973...&size=original

With the back of the 1960 Topps 138 Art Mahaffey card, there appears to be two different versions. On the first version, the colored area covering the vitals and statistics panel stops short of the ball containing the card's number, while on the other variety, the colored area extends all of the way to the back's left edge, as with nearly every other 1960 Topps card.

1960 138
 

Interesting Larry---various degrees of the different margins as well

The Spinks border irregularity at top is fairly common, those on left side less so. Here is one with it on top and lower on side

https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/UOAAA...hQP/s-l400.jpg

Al, what is also interesting is I don't recall seeing another 1960 card with it's back like this.....I would think that the this card was probably on an uncut sheet's right edge. I can't seem to find a 1960 uncut sheet from this series to see where it is located on the sheet and what card is above/below this one. Possibly the card above/below may be similar. Either way, it appears that about 1 in 5 copies of this card have the shortened coloring.

I have seen dozens and dozens of the Spinks card with the top border break, but have yet to see one with either the side or both the top/side. Nice find. The search will continue for one besides the top border break.

Somewhere in this thread is another 1960 card with similar back issue. Will look for it later

Edit--- see posts 654 and 655

79 Murphy
 

Recurring print defect in yellow banner. Would love to know of any other variations/defects with this specific card.

"The Blue And The Grey"
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...ATHEWS_NEW.JPG

...I was assembling some newly-arrived partial sets into a complete set and came across the card in the middle ; very distinctly blue in hand...I searched E-Bay and it appears to be about two out of ten have that blue hue; there's a gorgeous overpriced "8" with this shade on there now-it even extends to the uniform....he was a great guy and athlete and died 'way 'way too young...

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Musial Rookie Misprint
 

Received this from a recent collection, sent in to PSA and they confirmed it was a misprint. Put card on EBay asking $2500 or best offer just to see who is interested.

Focus , Grasshopper , Focus...
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...BLURRR_NEW.JPG

...his last name is really butchered ; a lot of the white lettering is just pure missing as is a lot of the yellow print from "THIRD BASE"...It received a "PSA 6" and is obviously without the Q for faulty registration/focus....might it actually be a PSA 8 (OF) ? but they requested "no Q's"...

..it was already graded when I bought the "some raw/some graded partial set" to play around with..you have to wonder what some people were thinking when they spent $10-$12 dollars plus insured shipping to have a sketchy example like this graded ? Maybe it was a centering weenie ; you know how strange they can be...

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Actually, with that cert number, it was probably graded 15 or so years ago. Might have only been $4 at the time? And their standards on (OF) cards may have changed over time. Definitely think it would be an OF qualifier if submitted now.

Yes , very old serial number
 

Great 48 Musial. I once saw a white background one but couldn't afford it.

1976 Dennis Eckersly: two black dots in bottom border.
https://www.comc.com/Cards/Baseball/...ersley/1853797

The 1969 #529 Ed Kirkpatrick comes with and without an obvious black mark on the bill of his hat (neither version appears to be more scarce than the other)...

Attachment 293120 Attachment 293121

And it seems that every one of his cards has some pink splotching on the uniform, but the amount of saturation varies greatly.

Here's another minor, but interesting, variation nonetheless. It's actually a variation within a variation...

These cards are traditional 1969 Topps White Letter (WL) #485 Gaylord Perry Variations...

Attachment 293253

While these cards are traditional 1969 White Letter (WL) #485 Gaylord Perry Variations with an extra thick blue line present and floating to the right of his cheek...

Attachment 293254

They are wickedly tough to find.

Good catch with your find on the variation on the variation of this card....here is another twist on this card. We all know that the YL can be found with the card number obscured on back. However, I also have a WL with the card number obscured on the back. Yet another variation on the already known variation....I have not seen the obscuration on the WL mentioned. Deans has one WL with a full and one with a partial obscuration on the back.

Seeing the same limited but recurring flaws on both the WL and YL versions begs the question, how did these flaws end on on both the WL and YL?

That could happen if the backs were printed first
Or if they printed backs on one press and fronts on another at the same time and swapped piles later.
Which sort of makes sense if they had a bunch of mistakes to fix. They'd done a bunch, stopped and while making the new plates simply went ahead and printed the backs.

There are lots of reasons to do stuff like that. There are a few cards from a number of different sets and it's hard to spot/prove where the normal order of colors wasn't followed. Some 81 fleer star stickers have the black printed before the blue on the front. Black is almost always printed last. If you have a stack, they'll be the light blue ones.

Thank you Steve, the process you describe makes sense with the print defects.....another question (may have long since been answered) revolves around why there are WL variations from this set in the first place? It does not appear that these WL cards are missing the yellow as (with the Perry card) the team's name is yellow.

Darren and Larry---I think I have all 4 now but would appreciate it if you would find any further double variation defects on less expensive cards :)

I have a yellow letter card coming to me with just a partial obscuring of the card number, so that adds yet another wrinkle to the case.

Here's an illustration of the partially obscured number mentioned above. The two cards in back are yellow lettered and the one in front is a white letter...

Attachment 293349

The general process was that they'd have a pasteup of the original art. pictures with borders etc, and that was photographed through filters to get a halftone for each color. (Some colors on some areas aren't halftones - the dot pattern like a newspaper picture)
Those negatives would be taped to an opaque piece of paper, or later, plastic. Some areas of that were cut away to expose what was intended to be printed making the "mask" which was basically a full sheet size composite negative for each color. That would then be used to make the plate.
Defects in the negatives could be fixed with a sort of red whiteout, or with red transparent tape.
All of that was done by hand.
So if the person making the mask goofed and left the name blocked off on the yellow plate the card would get a white name. After the decision to fix it, the mask could be altered to expose the name are, and new plates would be made.
The place I worked didn't have to do that in the time I worked there. We did have a few days of work when the camera guy took the pics for an entire booklet while he was under the influence of a liquid lunch and decided to clean the area just before doing the camera work. Thousands of spots from airborne dust that all had to be fixed - manually with that red whiteout.....they thought I had decent attention to detail so I got a space at a light table and a couple days working at fixing the masks.

Thank you once more Steve, your explanation as to why the YL were missing makes perfect sense

It is so maddening when someone makes sense in here, particularly if it is perfect sense :)

Sorry, I'll try to cook up some complete nonsense.......

Although it might be hard to come up with a more confusing process :D

1957 New York Yankees Greenie Ford
 

http://imagehost.vendio.com/a/204295...EENISH_NEW.JPG

..it's really noticeable in hand too....I'm re-arranging the furniture here at Schloss Garcia and came across these ,,,,,hey , just so long as they're centered...

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Not sure if it was this thread or another one, but someone pointed out that the entire 57 set seems to have at least two versions of each card similar to the type of differences between the green tints and regular cards. Not green tint but noticeable differences in clarity and or coloring of the cards.

Was researching a 1971 Topps issue and came across this


http://40.media.tumblr.com/e075d0c31...dw57o1_500.jpg

1969 Perry
 

Darren/Larry---you think there are 7 versions or maybe 8 ?,,,white and yellow and each of those with partial or major distortion of number on back, and blue streak on front ( on both ?)

That is a cool card. I like this one too.

Al, interesting thought, I considered this last week but didn't think much of it as I have yet to see a copy with either of the distortions on the back AND the blue line. That is not so say a copy with both a line on front and distortion on back does not exist though.

To help me keep this straight, are these the already confirmed/identified variations of this card(when the degree of back distortion are considered separately)?:

1. YL, no line, no back distortion (yawn)
2. WL, no line, no back distortion
3. YL, blue line, no back distortion
4. WL, blue line, no back distortion
5. YL, no line, minor back distortion
6. WL, no line, minor back distortion
7. YL, no line, major back distortion
8. WL, no line, major back distortion

Unconfirmed:

9. YL, blue line, minor back distortion
10. WL, blue line, minor back distortion
11. YL, blue line, major back distortion
12. WL, blue line, major back distortion

Obviously, there are a number of combinations already identified for this card, but I would like to see an image of one of the last four possibilities posted. Even with the 8 possibilities that appear to have been identified, it maybe the first card with this many variant/variation possibilities that requires it's own 9 pocket page in my variation binder.

As of now, these are the only ones I can confirm:
1. YL, no line, no card # distortion
2. YL, no line, minor card # distortion
3. YL, no line, major card # distortion
4. WL, no line, no card # distortion
5. WL, no line, minor card # distortion
6. WL, no line, major card # distortion
7. WL, blue line on front, no card # distortion

I have only seen the blue line on the WL with the intact card number, not on any YL cards whatsoever and not on any distorted card # WL's...yet. But who knows what tomorrow will bring.

Your fav, dean, has a YL with the blue line....I did not notice this card until today though.

Normal back, right ? So 8 now ? Unknown if blue can be found with the 4 different distorted backs ? Who is in charge of finding that out ?

Nice job!! But it hurts my heart that you had to go the Dean-bag route to find it. :)