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Duluth Eskimo 08-24-2018 07:15 AM

It bothers me too. I sometimes email them and obviously get no response. They all know exactly the scam they are running. I don’t know how people live with themselves, but that is society nowadays.

Fballguy 08-24-2018 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Duluth Eskimo (Post 1807022)
It bothers me too. I sometimes email them and obviously get no response. They all know exactly the scam they are running. I don’t know how people live with themselves, but that is society nowadays.

I emailed someone about this a couple weeks back and they actually updated their listing. I expected a snarky response but all I got was "ok" and when I checked the listing was revised.

But I agree...I've noticed many more recently. I was always thankful reproductions hadn't really made their way into the pennant hobby. They've pretty much ruined the card hobby. Just about any card you search on eBay will have unauthorized fakes in the search results.

Don't know if I ever posted about it on here, but I bought a "rare" Packers pennant from a guy in Canada. It looked a little weird but it was the Packers so I took a shot. The thing was made out of fuzzy construction paper that he called "felt" and literally looked like he made it in his basement using supplies from Michaels.

He didn't offer returns, but when I threatened to open a "not as described" case with eBay...the first response was defensive and resistant. But after opening the case, someone else reached out to me and couldn't have been more cooperative. In fact, he refunded my money without me even sending it back. I didn't want it, so I did send it back...and once he received, he sent me another $10 for the return shipping cost. He's got others listed now. I see multiple teams and sports. They are junk. I also noticed he's dropped his asking prices pretty significantly.

perezfan 08-25-2018 04:20 PM

Well, unfortunately a couple of bidders felt this Mitchell & Ness Repro was worth over $300. Such a shame.... I wonder if the "winner" will still be happy when he has it in-hand? :o

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/19...p2047675.l2565

Fballguy 08-25-2018 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 1807469)
Well, unfortunately a couple of bidders felt this Mitchell & Ness Repro was worth over $300. Such a shame.... I wonder if the "winner" will still be happy when he has it in-hand? :o

https://www.ebay.com/bfl/viewbids/19...p2047675.l2565

Just curious...Did Mitchell & Ness make more than one version of this pennant? The M&N version I saw had a thinner spine and no 1946 designation on it. Do you think it was added later by someone?

That's a pretty good looking reproduction. Damn Mitchell and Ness.

perezfan 08-25-2018 05:08 PM

Yes... Someone probably added the date along the spine. The graphics of the pennant appear to be the typical M&N "raised velvet", but the date written on the spine looks like paint.

If authentic, this pennant would have sold closer to $2K.

bocca001 08-25-2018 05:24 PM

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Well... you all know that I ended up with an SF Seals one of these (modern pennant with vintage look) at an early point in my pennant collecting career. That Seals pennant was even listed/pictured in Egner's vintage pennant price guide, which was why I thought it was ok. So people do get fooled.

Here are a few recent pickups that are clearly vintage (both were cheap, and I'm a sucker for red).

Jimm- if you read this, I want to know if your Bay Area collection includes a "Billy Ball" A's pennant. That's another pennant on my want my list (I heard so many Billy Ball commercials on the radio as a kid).

jimm 08-26-2018 12:48 PM

Nice don't recall a Billy Ball one... an abundance of the BigHead player style ones in my area. Probably closer to 1990

jimm 08-26-2018 12:49 PM

Do the MNs say MN on them somewheres?

perezfan 08-26-2018 01:06 PM

Unfortunately not...

They come with a paper hang-tag that has the Mitchell & Ness name and logo plastered all over it. But once that is detached, there are no markings on the actual felt pennant. Very unfortunate, as these can look pretty convincing when artificially "aged".

thetahat 08-26-2018 03:24 PM

Mitchell and Ness got me started on my vintage pennant addiction. I live near Philly and their retail store. Every Super Bowl weekend they had a 50% off sale on most items, including their repro pennants which were in their infancy. I bought some to decorate a game room. But they had some vintage pennants scattered throughout the store as decorations, and I thought they looked better, though they were not for sale. I was new to eBay and eventually started my collection.

In most instances you can tell right away by sight, but when it comes to those full sized BF3 pennants it is kinda tough ...


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