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perezfan 11-10-2023 08:04 PM

Definitely both are Trench.

ooo-ribay 11-11-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2387703)
OK.... let me clarify. The 2 "Stadium Pennant" examples Marc showed (Giants and Dodgers) are both FULL sized pennants. But it was asked whether these two were possibly from the same maker. Here is my (hopefully) clearer reply...

I formerly had a pennant string of 8 minis (you've all seen these pennant strings that include minis of each team in the league.... right?) Anyway, the pennants on the string included mini versions of the Giants and Dodgers Pennants Marc had pictured. This led to 2 obvious conclusions...

1. They (both the minis and full size) are from the same maker
2. The Giants and Dodgers pennants were produced during the same time frame.

Hope this clarifies it.... The pennants Marc showed are all FULL SIZED.

Gotcha.

Vintagedeputy 11-16-2023 05:13 PM

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Sorry for the poor photo, but I was too excited not to post right away. This rare beauty finally showed up today. It’s got some thumbtack holes on the spine and it’s missing a tassel but the graphic is spectacular.

perezfan 11-17-2023 11:28 AM

Great one Jim... What a classic!

Congrats on nailing that one down!

Vintagedeputy 11-17-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2389592)
Great one Jim... What a classic!

Congrats on nailing that one down!

Thanks! The pennant guide lists that one as very rare!

mikecala98 11-17-2023 05:04 PM

Looking to grab this Braves beauty today. Early 50’s?

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Vintagedeputy 11-17-2023 09:23 PM

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Looking to grab this Braves beauty today. Early 50’s?


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1950s

mikecala98 11-17-2023 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2389688)
1950s

Thanks!! The color is glowing. Like it came off the presses today!!

ooo-ribay 11-17-2023 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecala98 (Post 2389692)
Thanks!! The color is glowing. Like it came off the presses today!!

Yeah….love the color!

perezfan 11-17-2023 11:30 PM

It is amazing that some held their colors so well, while others became faded, toned or bleached out.

I know that direct sunlight and dust will do that. But I think a lot if it was also the different types of felt or cloth they used as well as the different grades of paint.

UKCardGuy 11-18-2023 07:54 AM

Great pickups Mike and Jim. I love the Braves pennants from the 40s/50s.

Did anyone see the Satchel Paige that completed at Heritage last night?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

Sold for $1,500 with juice. I hope someone hear got it.

Domer05 11-20-2023 12:08 AM

New Content Alert: The Reproduction Co.
 
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I'm happy to announce that this Friday, on Pennant Fever, I'll finally be posting some new material. This month, we'll take a close look at one of the most significant pennant makers of the 20th century: The Reproduction Co., of New York City. I know we've talked about them a bit on this thread, but, up until now, very little was known about the people behind the company; and, equally important: their story.

And, I promise you: it's a good story. Sex. Betrayal. Murder. Well, maybe not all three. But it's a story unlike any other maker we've covered before. So, look for that on Pennant Fever this Black Friday.

In the meantime, I just posted some new content over on Pennant Factory to help get you through the short week ahead. There, right now, you can read all about this pennant....

Vintagedeputy 11-20-2023 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2389751)

Did anyone see the Satchel Paige that completed at Heritage last night?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

Sold for $1,500 with juice. I hope someone hear got it.

That Paige is amazing. You know, when I started adding pennants to the list of things I collect, I considered only buying pennants of my team (Yankees) but there are so many beautiful vintage pennants out there and they can sell for big money so I just decided to grab anything vintage if it’s at the right price.

ooo-ribay 11-20-2023 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2390154)
I'm happy to announce that this Friday, on Pennant Fever, I'll finally be posting some new material. This month, we'll take a close look at one of the most significant pennant makers of the 20th century: The Reproduction Co., of New York City. I know we've talked about them a bit on this thread, but, up until now, very little was known about the people behind the company; and, equally important: their story.

And, I promise you: it's a good story. Sex. Betrayal. Murder. Well, maybe not all three. But it's a story unlike any other maker we've covered before. So, look for that on Pennant Fever this Black Friday.

In the meantime, I just posted some new content over on Pennant Factory to help get you through the short week ahead. There, right now, you can read all about this pennant....

Very much looking forward to both reads, Kyle. This purple guy is Reproduction Co., is it not? Coincidentally, I bid on it and it closed Friday night at Lelands. I didn’t think the hammer price was too outrageous but it was more than I’ll spend on a pennant….probably because, as Bocca told me also on Friday, I’m “cheap.” :p

bocca001 11-20-2023 11:42 AM

I said you had a reputation for being cheap. That’s totally different. How much did the NY Giants sell for?

Domer05 11-20-2023 11:52 AM

Rob: That purple guy is indeed a beauty; and, yes, it's one of many early 1910-era professional baseball pennants by Repco known to exist. I promise, you'll see a few more on Friday.

What did it go for??

thetahat 11-20-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2390259)
Rob: That purple guy is indeed a beauty; and, yes, it's one of many early 1910-era professional baseball pennants by Repco known to exist. I promise, you'll see a few more on Friday.

What did it go for??

Just under $2300.

UKCardGuy 11-20-2023 03:32 PM

I was one of the underbidders on that Giants pennant. It's fantastic. The price was fair but like Rob, I couldn't bring myself to go that high.

There's been some amazing pennants for sale lately. I just need everyone to go offline and let me pick some of them up at a good price. :D

Kyle, I'm looking forward to the new content on your site.

ooo-ribay 11-20-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2390255)
I said you had a reputation for being cheap. That’s totally different. How much did the NY Giants sell for?

I only bid in order to keep getting the Lelands catalogs. I knew I had no shot!

Vintagedeputy 11-21-2023 05:11 PM

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Another great vintage pennant photo.

perezfan 11-21-2023 07:06 PM

Just an awesome photo. Wonder how many of those actually survived?

ooo-ribay 11-21-2023 07:37 PM

Some other cool merch in that photo, as well…hats, ashtray, apron…

perezfan 11-21-2023 07:42 PM

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If any of you are thinking of getting your carpets cleaned for the holidays...

Be sure to have it done in this pattern. Home is where the heart is!

thetahat 11-22-2023 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2390674)
Another great vintage pennant photo.

Great picture. It seems as if the white is cloth and the orange and the black are felt. Are there any counter-examples?

UKCardGuy 11-22-2023 08:55 AM

Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

thetahat 11-22-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2390800)
Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

Not sure but it’s awesome and if one still exists it might fetch four figures …

mikecala98 11-22-2023 12:31 PM

Officially a pennant guy now.

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ooo-ribay 11-22-2023 01:07 PM

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Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

The Giants had a similar hat, with a more understated feather. They called it the "porky pennant hat." They also had a similar apron which I like more, due to the semi-swearing. :p

bocca001 11-23-2023 06:45 AM

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Welcome to the world of pennants, Mike.

I have a 49ers hat that is very similar to the Houston Colts. It's one of those things that is kind of cool, but not the easiest to display.

I could not resist, for the price of about $22, this early HOF pennant with the nice Annin label. The quality is very nice. Relatively heavy felt. Good construction. Wish they made more baseball pennants.

Fballguy 11-24-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2391029)
Welcome to the world of pennants, Mike.

I have a 49ers hat that is very similar to the Houston Colts. It's one of those things that is kind of cool, but not the easiest to display.

I could not resist, for the price of about $22, this early HOF pennant with the nice Annin label. The quality is very nice. Relatively heavy felt. Good construction. Wish they made more baseball pennants.

Uh oh Marc...Careful there. You're branching out. You'll be a Chicago Cardinals Super Collector before you know it.

Fballguy 11-24-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2390800)
Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

That's from the short lived Huggy Bear Collection.

ooo-ribay 11-24-2023 11:36 AM

Fantastic Repco write up, Kyle! As usual, your research is unparalleled.

mikecala98 11-24-2023 12:30 PM

Another 1!

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Vintagedeputy 11-24-2023 05:06 PM

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Oh that’s sweet!

mikecala98 11-24-2023 05:45 PM

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Oh that’s sweet!

Thanks! Antique store was running a nice Black Friday sale so I had to pull the trigger!

ooo-ribay 11-25-2023 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2390800)
Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

We'll get back to pennants, but here's Prescott Sullivan's "by-line pic" from a 1962 SF Examiner. He's sporting the Porky Pennant Hat ($1.50 in the 1962 merchandise list).

Haasboss2498 11-26-2023 09:19 AM

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More pennant sightings.

New to the thread, was really cool to see this picture. Acquired this pennant and was curious to its origin dates. 1944 looks pretty spot on considering this photo.

ooo-ribay 12-03-2023 09:19 AM

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Do you guys think these could be by the same maker? Both are slightly under "full size." There's writing in the lower left of the Sox pennant but JR can't make it out. He said it has some name and a patent number. A patent number? Weird.

P.S. The Giants does also come in blue.

P.P.S. If anyone here gets the Sox pennant, we need to decipher the writing in the lower left.

bocca001 12-03-2023 09:37 AM

That Giants batter always messes me up with the hands in the wrong position for a righty. Or maybe he is looking back at the umpire to protest a call.

71buc 12-03-2023 06:29 PM

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This one is rather rare. This is only the second example I’ve ever encountered. I purchased it and will donate the duplicate to the Clemente Museum.

Vintagedeputy 12-04-2023 10:39 AM

I’m not sure who keeps outbidding me on pennants days before the auction ends, but cut it out! Haha! 😆

ooo-ribay 12-04-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 2393908)
This one is rather rare. This is only the second example I’ve ever encountered. I purchased it and will donate the duplicate to the Clemente Museum.

Nice, Mike! Is the new one an upgrade to the one you had?

perezfan 12-05-2023 12:54 PM

A bit of a lull here in the Pennant thread, so just wanted to inject a "short but sweet" video on a rare AAGPBL pennant. There's no crying.... Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Qnxb9YvS4

mikecala98 12-05-2023 03:34 PM

Grabbed a lot for a nice price off Facebook marketplace. 1960 Pirates with Clemente and the Senators has an original pin affixed to it.

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perezfan 12-05-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecala98 (Post 2394548)
Grabbed a lot for a nice price off Facebook marketplace. 1960 Pirates with Clemente and the Senators has an original pin affixed to it.

Great stuff.... Some classic mid-century examples there for sure. I especially like the Stadium pennants. Nice score!

ooo-ribay 12-06-2023 06:57 AM

Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

perezfan 12-06-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394671)
Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

I think those tips are just bent, and the downward angle causes the illusion of trimming. Have seen this many times, especially when buying on eBay.

When flattened out, the illusion goes away. I bet if he ironed them or even provided photos of the reverse sides, you'd see a whole different image without this distortion.

thetahat 12-06-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394671)
Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

The extra cool thing about the Pirates is that all the graphics have a velvet like texture to them. Just like the Collegiate 3D pennants. It still cracks but it isn’t just “paint”. Trench seemed to do this on quite a few 1960-61 picture pennants and at least one logo pennant (Phillies w/cap and orbiting baseball).

perezfan 12-06-2023 12:59 PM

Buyer Beware....

Not that anyone here would likely pony up the crazy asking price for this, but be warned that this is almost surely a reproduction pennant, and NOT original...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14547875566...Bk9SR6aP8YqIYw

The spine and stitching are all wrong for this pennant and it should be oversized (not full sized). Note how the seller's measurements include the tassels. Likely made by Mitchell & Ness, and heavily/artificially aged and weathered to look old.

Stay away!

perezfan 12-06-2023 01:05 PM

Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw


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