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Ogdens Jackson
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Back from SGC. I feel like it's a bit over graded but I'm harsh on black border issues. I'm just happy to own a crease free example.
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Holy Cows.......that's a fantastic example of that card. |
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1911 La Boxe
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French “Sports Library” series
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That's an interesting card John, I've never seen one of those.
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Another batch thanks to the board here.
I love the N28's but don't plan to ever build the set, with the cost of the baseball cards. I'll have to put more effort into the boxers in it now that the big one is here. I prefer this Sullivan to any of John L.'s other non-cabinet sized cards, even if it is one of his most common vintage items. Great pose of a great champion. Got a couple more Mayo's, with Tommy Ryan being the highlight. I'm trying to build this set both ways with the name at top and bottom. Ryan is my kind of card I prefer, priced as a common but a top-tier boxer. Sullivan is most of the $ in the batch, but the Red Sun's are the big gets as they are very difficult cards. This puts me up to 11 of them ~7 months after I started the set. I don't expect to continue this pace. Brown is in pretty bad shape for a Red Sun, most of the surviving examples are in decent condition, but can't be picky with these. Brown is also noteworthy as being one of the few subjects in T226 that has a T218 card but uses a different picture than the T218/T9 uses. Happy to have two more here |
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The other day I was going thru a stack of n150 actors and actresses. This card was in the stack. I’ve had it for years. Until recently I assumed it was an actor. I’ve even tried to sell it at flea markets for $10. Not necessarily a new pickup but a new realization. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk |
I’d be thrilled as all get out to find that Sullivan in one of my stacks of random cards. Very nice one
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Very nice Corbett
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Big thank you to one of the members here for sending me these! Mostly a boxing set, so I think these are close enough to go here. Usually I think SGC overgrades my boxing pickups, but I'm not sure why the Leary is a 2. Davidson is a good looking 2, McWood a lower end 2, but Leary looks like a 3-3.5 to me.
I know the Davidson is a bit more popular, it's a weird looking picture which puts it up my alley. Goes with my T218 Jordan's as the totality of my roller skater collection. Brings me to 13 of the 40 T224/T229 fronts, ~7-8 months into the project. Coming faster than I expected, probably won't ever finish but it's a fun and rare set and I'll enjoy however many I end up with to display. I don't want to know what Jack Johnson will cost me... |
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https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...s%20Bronze.JPG It's a pretty good likeness: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/l4QAA...K3/s-l1600.jpg It is the only piece of memorabilia I have on display in the living room that doesn't annoy my wife. |
card not in short supply
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in this grade, but happy to have
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The one on the right is new. There are several Sullivan's and Corbett's in this series, with both of them termed the "Champion of the World". It is a presumably from sometime between 1892 and 1897, probably the early part of that range. Not sure how many make a full set or who made this unmarked series, but they are fairly common and cheap by Sullivan cabinet standards.
A previous owner pencilled the outlines of his career and life up to Sullivan's death on the back. |
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I don't even know what I just bought. It was on eBay as a "Cabinet Card", but it is not a cabinet card as it is not a mounted photo, or in the standard cabinet size. It is just printed onto the stock like a postcard. I've never heard the term "vivi-photo" that is stamped I the bottom left before. My search didn't turn up much about this, or the address listed on the card.
I'm not even sure it's even 1910 period, but Cooley was a decent boxer and a tragic life who has few cards, so if I bought some later image or fake, it's fine and will display nice all the same. It was pretty cheap. |
I tink the Fred Cooley photo is authentic to the period (circa 1910).
Produced by Hennegan & Co. of Cincinnati, Ohio. Here are a few postcards for sale produced by the same company around the same time period. https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/Sea...pnav-_-Results |
can anyone ID this guy?
https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...ermoxa%201.jpg I thought this blotter was fun: https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...y%20Tunney.jpg Am I reading too much into it or do these illustrations actually resemble the pair? |
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I'm slowly working on a second set 1955 Parkhurst Wrestling. With a little extra coin I had in my pocket picked up this Bronko Nagurski $33.65 delivered after Canada shipping and US taxes. About as cheap as you're gonna find one?
Larry https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=33000https://www.net54baseball.com/pictur...ictureid=33001 |
Adam,
in my opinion the pair definitely looks like Tunney on the right and and Dempsey on the left. a cool piece, and one I’ve not seen before. |
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Picked up a 1973 Dimanche Derniere Jean Ferre (aka Andre the Giant)
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Thank you to Adam for these. I generally don't collect the N cards because the boxing N cards are either
1) Not realistically possible to complete a set because they are so scarce or 2) The set has baseball players in it which means completing the set costs $$$$$$ and I'm a cheapass. I've gotten better at accepting I just won't complete some sets and enjoy having an incomplete set. I may pick up the non-baseball's, but I'm not willing to pay the price for Anson/Kelly etc. Thanks to Adam, I just got the boxing subset in one go without having to decide to chase them all down. Thanks Adam. The Mitchell is much nicer than I thought it was looking at the pictures, the colors really pop on the lithographic cards when they aren't toned as most of them are, even in higher grades. Jem Smith is my favorite of the N162's. Of course, I believe I still need to get the variations. Mitchell and Dempsey have the lithographer line at back bottom, Sullivan and Smith do not (Kilrain has paper loss obscuring his). I don't know which back type is tougher and am not knowledgeable about this issue. I believe all 50 cards come both ways, but this may be wrong. |
My pleasure. That subset took a rather convoluted route to get to you. Some jackass won the set at auction from me, reneged, got thrown off eBay, re-registered the next week, won it again AND RENEGED AGAIN! Rather than relist and let that guy get another crack at it, I sold it privately.
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This just showed up in the mail.
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I've probably handled over 100 different postcards over the years from that fight...but I think that might be the coolest one. Looks like a montage or collage against the background of a crowd shot. Very neat composition. |
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Care to share the bidder Id's? |
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The deadbeat bidder is Jason Hamilton from Ohio. His first ID was allaboutthering. eBay removed it. The next one he used the name "John Taggerty" but the shipping address is Jason Hamilton in Ohio. That ID is aboxerslife and since it is active I suggest you block it.
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Thanks Adam
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I just picked up these two pinbacks of Ali. I thought they were kind of unusual.
On June 29th, 1979, world heavyweight boxing champion Muhammad Ali faced Governor Brendan Byrne and Jersey City Mayor Thomas Smith in exhibition bouts at the Jersey City armory. The supposed purpose of the event was to raise money for the Medical Center. |
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Thanks to a board member for a purchase and trade here.
The T220 Tolstoi Dempsey is the big get for me - this completes my T220 Tolstoi set and my T220 White Border Master set with all 3 backs and all image variations. It puts me at 189/190 cards in the T220 full master set - only the Jas. J. Corbett Silver Border to go (anyone want to cash out and sell one yet?). I got my first Tolstoi close to 20 years ago when I was a kid The C52's put me at 89/109 in my set, down to 20 cards left. The Cutler measures considerably short but it looks the nicest. The Wolgast puts me at 42 of the 50 Honest Long Cut Green backs, and at 146 cards deep into the master set. I doubt I will ever complete this master run, but it's a been a blast working on it. The T227 Coulon is the purple back variation. Still need Honest Long Cut Purples of Johnson, Klaus, and Attell. Pickup days are becoming rarer as I'm pretty deep into my c. 1910 boxing master runs now, which just makes them more fun. |
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Got a book this week from the BST. Had never heard of it before.
One of my lanes of interest has been figuring what was known when about the T cards. I've found little to no checklists even from before the time I entered boxing card land in ~2003, so for $20 I thought this might be interesting material. Some of it is woefully inaccurate or just incomplete. The T218 series are nowhere even close to accurate (but then again I don't think any source has been close to correct besides Vrechek's article), and the writer did not know Tolstoi backs exist at all. It's interesting to see what cards just weren't known then. T224/T226/C52 note that their checklists are not complete and are reporting what has been seen, and labels 50 cards for T224-9. For T220 it says Coburn with and without a man to left exists in both white and silver, it reports the T220 Silver Jack Goodman fantasy while missing the Donovan (of course) and Jas. J. Corbett (when was this card first known? It's public knowledge predates the Donovan of 2006). Other parts are surprisingly on point. T219 has all 4 backs listed, by far the earliest reference to the Green backs (guess I didn't figure that out ;) and to Red Cross being physically smaller than the other 3 (guess I didn't figure that out either ;). Lots of good stuff about the British issues. Been a fun read for a few bucks with some insights into the historiography. Also got a 23 card set of VG-EX T220 Silver's, 5 of them turned out to be upgrades. |
Seconds Out is a go-to guide for the UK issues. I've found it very useful in ID'ing types for my collection. Unlike the WTI, it has pictures. When I saw the American section it inspired me to start doing my own books--i couldn't make it worse...
As for new stuff, these finally landed from So. America, so say hello to my little friends: 1956 Crack Gigantes de Figuritas Sport Marciano https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...0Marciano.jpeg 1952 Figuritas Lali Archie Moore https://photos.imageevent.com/exhibi...i%20Moore.jpeg Both rare as hell. I hadn't seen the Marciano offered for sale in years and the Moore was one I'd never seen before. |
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I've never had a copy of the WTI or the ACC. I should hunt some copies down to see what they say on T218-T229. |
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Got a small lot of some T218's that had 2 Gilles' with no back scans. Finally lucked out and scored a surprise Gillis
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I don't know much about dating postcards so I don't know when this is from beyond that it's not very recent. I like to get cards I find aesthetically nice of guys in the T218/T220 issue, so for less than $20 on eBay today I figure it was low risk and I'll enjoy it for that price regardless of when its from.
Jeffries was probably the greatest of the early heavyweight champions but has little modern interest relative to the popularity he had in his own time. Means there's a lot of stuff of him and most of it is cheap, which is lovely for me. |
Playle ID's that as a 1930-1950 PC back type.
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Picked up a few more Mayo's. I was the underbidder on a lot of the others, happy to cross 1 of the Sullivan's off my wantlist. The Creeden and Goss don't measure right, I am confident the Creeden is trimmed. Neither belonged in a numbered slab, but it's rare I acquire an SGC card that is actually graded correctly. Why they insist (or insisted) on slapping 1890 on the label will always be a mystery to me.
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Pal Moore of Pennsylvania is most renowned for being mistaken for Pal Moore of Memphis. Willie Beecher is most renowned for appearing in this set of cards. I really love the artwork for this set and the interesting outdoor backgrounds on the type 1 images. I really wish there had been a larger T9 type set incorporating these images in a larger format.
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Did you just get those or just photograph those?
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Nice. Private sale or more on eBay?
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