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quitcrab 07-29-2018 07:08 PM

I really like the 69 deckle proof-beautiful !

docpatlv 07-29-2018 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1799129)
I really like the 69 deckle proof-beautiful !


Thanks quitcrab, that was a small show pickup for me.

quitcrab 07-30-2018 04:10 PM

Do you have a square cut Clemente 68 topps game card? They are much harder to find then the 69 deckles.

Mark70Z 07-30-2018 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1799099)
Day 211


1969 Topps Deckle Edge Proof...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ofClemente.bmp

Love proof stuff and this is no exception.

docpatlv 07-30-2018 08:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quitcrab (Post 1799318)
Do you have a square cut Clemente 68 topps game card? They are much harder to find then the 69 deckles.


Don’t have one, not sure if I’ve even seen one.

docpatlv 07-30-2018 08:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1799322)
Love proof stuff and this is no exception.


Mark, do you have the Brooks proof? When I bought the Clemente, I also bought a Brooks. Unfortunately, I sold it a long time ago.


Day 212


1966 Topps...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1966Topps.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...966ToppsBk.jpg

Mark70Z 07-31-2018 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1799397)
Mark, do you have the Brooks proof? When I bought the Clemente, I also bought a Brooks. Unfortunately, I sold it a long time ago.

Yes; I do have the ‘69 Brooks Robinson non-deckled proof. Hey, maybe I purchased from you?!? I know the one I have is not cut as nice as the Clemente from your collection. Since it was likely cut from a sheet anyway I may make mine a tad bit nicer one day.

I know the majority of collectors like the regular versions of cards, but I prefer the “proof” type stuff.

docpatlv 07-31-2018 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1799582)
Yes; I do have the ‘69 Brooks Robinson non-deckled proof. Hey, maybe I purchased from you?!? I know the one I have is not cut as nice as the Clemente from your collection. Since it was likely cut from a sheet anyway I may make mine a tad bit nicer one day.

I know the majority of collectors like the regular versions of cards, but I prefer the “proof” type stuff.


Mark, the one I sold was also SGC graded, is yours?


Day 213


1960 Team signed baseball...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...esTmSigned.jpg

docpatlv 08-01-2018 07:52 PM

Day 214


1966 Pirates roster & team photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...atesRoster.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...eamPhoto_2.jpg

docpatlv 08-02-2018 07:57 PM

Day 215


1971 Arco photo...



https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...e/1971Arco.jpg

docpatlv 08-03-2018 07:45 PM

Day 216


1983 Starliner sticker...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...nerSticker.jpg

Mark70Z 08-04-2018 07:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1799629)
Mark, the one I sold was also SGC graded, is yours?

No; mine wasn’t slabbed. For future reference any Brooks Robinson items you have available I should get first dibs ;)

docpatlv 08-04-2018 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1800480)
No; mine wasn’t slabbed. For future reference any Brooks Robinson items you have available I should get first dibs ;)


Not a problem!


Day 217


1990s Seagram’s mirror...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ramsMirror.jpg

docpatlv 08-05-2018 09:31 PM

Day 218


1969 Foodland photo album...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...69Foodland.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ndClemente.jpg

docpatlv 08-06-2018 07:42 AM

Day 219


1968 Large size team issue photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ueLgSquare.jpg

Empty77 08-06-2018 10:01 PM

Grand Finale?
 
Great stuff. Just over and over again, great stuff.
I have a sense that come day 365 you'll still have items left to share? Does that mean on day 365 we'll get a sort of Grand Finale with everything there wasn't space for, or might the steady parade continue on into a year two?

docpatlv 08-07-2018 06:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empty77 (Post 1801373)
Great stuff. Just over and over again, great stuff.
I have a sense that come day 365 you'll still have items left to share? Does that mean on day 365 we'll get a sort of Grand Finale with everything there wasn't space for, or might the steady parade continue on into a year two?


Thanks Empty77, that means a lot! I’ll definitely make it to Day 365. I still have some tough items to share, but I think I definitely shot my wad early, lol. After 365, I will probably add to the thread periodically, like David does with his Brock thread.

Mike

docpatlv 08-07-2018 09:20 AM

Day 220


It took me a while to acquire this next item. It doesn't appear too often and usually goes for a decent amount. Happy to finally purchase one.


1970 Team Issue photo...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...eamIssue_1.jpg

Mark70Z 08-07-2018 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1800737)
Not a problem!

Day 217

1990s Seagram’s mirror...

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ramsMirror.jpg

I know with Brooks there were two different size mirrors; is it the same w/Clemente?

hcv123 08-07-2018 07:59 PM

Not that I'm aware of
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1801610)
I know with Brooks there were two different size mirrors; is it the same w/Clemente?

I have only ever seen 1 size Clemente mirror. That said, I have seen (and own) a cardboard version of it that I believe was used to promote it.

I am not sure why, but believe that 70 team issue has eluded me.....unless laying in a box somewhere.

Had a great time at the national - actually found a couple of neat Clemente items - 1971 Action photos uncut sheet and Clemente low top sneakers - new with tags in an original box!! Will try to post photos soon. Also picked up a bunch of Pirates cards with my kids for our team collection.

docpatlv 08-07-2018 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mark70Z (Post 1801610)
I know with Brooks there were two different size mirrors; is it the same w/Clemente?


I don’t know if there are two different sizes for Roberto, but he is on another mirror with 5 or so other players. A friend purchased one from eBay to give me years ago and the seller sent the mirror in a cardboard box with absolutely no extra packaging. Needless to say, it arrived in about 10,000 pieces.

docpatlv 08-07-2018 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1801729)
I have only ever seen 1 size Clemente mirror. That said, I have seen (and own) a cardboard version of it that I believe was used to promote it.

I am not sure why, but believe that 70 team issue has eluded me.....unless laying in a box somewhere.

Had a great time at the national - actually found a couple of neat Clemente items - 1971 Action photos uncut sheet and Clemente low top sneakers - new with tags in an original box!! Will try to post photos soon. Also picked up a bunch of Pirates cards with my kids for our team collection.


Did you purchase the sneakers from Chuck T?

docpatlv 08-08-2018 07:00 AM

Day 221


1967 Topps...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1967Topps.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...967ToppsBk.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...967ToppsCL.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ppsCLDupes.jpg

hcv123 08-08-2018 08:37 AM

Chuck T
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1801734)
Did you purchase the sneakers from Chuck T?


Would that be Chuck Tomasco? Or a different T? In either case, no - Paul Kutch.

If you didn't get a 1960 bat fan yet, I ran into an old friend at the national that had one for sale - PM me if you want his contact info.

docpatlv 08-08-2018 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1801855)
Would that be Chuck Tomasco? Or a different T? In either case, no - Paul Kutch.

If you didn't get a 1960 bat fan yet, I ran into an old friend at the national that had one for sale - PM me if you want his contact info.

Yeah, I was talking about Chuck Tomasco.

I still need the bat fan. I would appreciate you sending me his contact info. Do you remember if it was complete and price being asked?

Thanks Howard

Edit: Was it the r.c. means seller on eBay?

docpatlv 08-09-2018 07:02 AM

Day 222


1971 Dell Stamps/Albums...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...lLaminated.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...lStarsBook.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...BookInside.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...iratesBook.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...BookInside.jpg

71buc 08-09-2018 09:20 AM

Does anyone know what I missed in this lot? I was in briefly as I wanted the Rawlings photo. They don't seem to become available often. Nonetheless, I couldn't justify the final price. $647.42 seems a bit excessive to me. When you include shipping it's close to $700.

https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...0&lot_num=1012

docpatlv 08-09-2018 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1802161)
Does anyone know what I missed in this lot? I was in briefly as I wanted the Rawlings photo. They don't seem to become available often. Nonetheless, I couldn't justify the final price. $647.42 seems a bit excessive to me. When you include shipping it's close to $700.

https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...0&lot_num=1012

My guess is that someone wanted the photo pretty badly. I can't see the store model gloves commanding that price, even if a tough glove. When I sold all of my Clemente gloves (12-15) over the last couple of years, I definitely lost money on them. But who knows

hcv123 08-09-2018 05:55 PM

hmmm.
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 1802161)
Does anyone know what I missed in this lot? I was in briefly as I wanted the Rawlings photo. They don't seem to become available often. Nonetheless, I couldn't justify the final price. $647.42 seems a bit excessive to me. When you include shipping it's close to $700.

https://huntauctions.com/phone/image...0&lot_num=1012

That Rawlings premium is quite scarce. While I haven't seen it sell for that kind of number, I haven't seen one sell in many (15+) years either. Not a shock if that pushed it. Also, IF the Sonnett box was connected to the Clemente glove, that would be pretty rare as well ( no where near as cool as your rawlings box though :)) Agree the rest of the store gloves are no big deal ( I still have my sub collection of store model gloves and believe I have 40+ different ones)

71buc 08-09-2018 10:54 PM

I have wanted that Rawlings photo for a long time but not that much worth of wanting.

docpatlv 08-10-2018 08:58 PM

Day 223


1962 Exhibit Black Stats...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...BlackStats.jpg

Empty77 08-10-2018 10:41 PM

Always like that image. He's very confident looking there. And satisfied, perhaps, is the sense conveyed.

As most reading here are already aware I'm sure, it gets duplicated in several other issues, which is a little downer in contributing to lack of variety (though your thread goes a long way to curing that), but I suppose if there is going to be a repeating image, then that one is a good one to have been chosen for posterity.

docpatlv 08-11-2018 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Empty77 (Post 1802653)
Always like that image. He's very confident looking there. And satisfied, perhaps, is the sense conveyed.

As most reading here are already aware I'm sure, it gets duplicated in several other issues, which is a little downer in contributing to lack of variety (though your thread goes a long way to curing that), but I suppose if there is going to be a repeating image, then that one is a good one to have been chosen for posterity.


Agreed, they did use that image a lot.


Day 224


1963 Exhibit Red Stats...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tatBackRed.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tBackRedBk.jpg

MCoxon 08-11-2018 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by docpatlv (Post 1802717)
Agreed, they did use that image a lot.


Day 224


1963 Exhibit Red Stats...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tatBackRed.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tBackRedBk.jpg


All - would love a view of how many times that image was used?
Kahn's - 1961?
Exhibits
Jay Publishing?

Also, how many variations of Exhibits and Jay Publishing exist for Clemente? I have a feeling we'll see them all before the 365 days are done...

hcv123 08-11-2018 10:30 PM

National pick ups
 
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1971 Action photos uncut sheet

Clemente sneakers new with tags in original box

hcv123 08-11-2018 10:34 PM

Not mine anymore, but I thought I would share
 
2 Attachment(s)
I had to sell some stuff to raise funds for my divorce - this was one of the items to go. It is a store model glove that got the "gold glove treatment". I have never seen another. I feel better knowing it is in a good home! Hey Mark - another item for your Brooks want list!

Empty77 08-11-2018 11:52 PM

All - would love a view of how many times that image was used?
Kahn's - 1961?
Exhibits
Jay Publishing?

Also, how many variations of Exhibits and Jay Publishing exist for Clemente? I have a feeling we'll see them all before the 365 days are done...[/QUOTE]

This is my best list of that pose being reused, but I am far from a proper expert for differentiating the various and difficult to track/identify team issued photo pack type stuff and whether more can be said about those:
‘47-66 Exhibits
‘58-61 Jay Pub/Pirates team card
‘59 Kahn’s
‘60 Kahn’s
‘61 Kahn’s
‘62 Exhibits red back
‘62 Exhibits black back
‘63 Exhibits

Re: exhibits and Jay publishing 'cards'
I know of four Exhibit 'variations', all listed above since they all share the same photo under discussion (again, sad face a little since we don't get the variety they gave Mantle or several others that had a few different poses issued over the series). The 'variations' are just backs with stats for '62 (red or black) and '63, and then blank-backed otherwise, for a total of four.

By happenstance, also four Jay pubs officially that I know (although I have seen some team photo pack cards referred to as jay pub, so I don't know and guess it depends on the definition or the provenance of the image used and what historically is still known and verifiable about them??) Anyway, there's the early series '58-61 pair, one batting stance, the other the above portrait pose. Then a late series pair '62-65, both in a batting stance, one wearing a cloth cap and the other a batting helmet.

Empty77 08-11-2018 11:55 PM

National pickups
 
Cool shoes and sheets Howard!

docpatlv 08-12-2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1802948)
1971 Action photos uncut sheet

Clemente sneakers new with tags in original box


Great pickups Howard! That uncut sheet is very nice. At first I thought it was the same as the photo I picked up from you, but then I noticed it was slightly different. Any idea who issued the photo you sold me?

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ssueGlossy.jpg


Day 225


1960s (1947-66) Exhibit Blank back...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...hibitBlank.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...bitBlankBk.jpg

71buc 08-12-2018 06:29 PM

Beautiful items Howard. That glove is awesome.

hcv123 08-12-2018 07:22 PM

As far as I know
 
[QUOTE=docpatlv;1803123]Great pickups Howard! That uncut sheet is very nice. At first I thought it was the same as the photo I picked up from you, but then I noticed it was slightly different. Any idea who issued the photo you sold me?

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...ssueGlossy.jpg


It is a team issued photo. PSA doesn't grade them, but other than the couple I've owned, I don't recall seeing them around.

docpatlv 08-13-2018 07:33 AM

Day 226


This next item is fairly common and can easily be found...


Feb. 1973 Roto Magazine...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tPressRoto.jpg


...and this next one is not so common. I wasn't even aware it existed until this year. Strange how the previous one is easy to find, yet this one issued 2 mos later is not.:confused:


April 1973 Roto Magazine...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...Mag_April_.jpg

Mark70Z 08-13-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hcv123 (Post 1802950)

Hey Mark - another item for your Brooks want list!

I know I’ve never seen the Clemente/Brooks “gold” glove before. Pretty cool item; may be a one of a kind piece. I’ll snag the pic and save for future reference.

docpatlv 08-14-2018 09:01 AM

Day 227


I have no idea where this next item was distributed, but I believe it is definitely period from 1973. It is on heavy paper stock and measures roughly 9 x 12.


1973 Memorial Sheet...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...orialSheet.jpg

docpatlv 08-15-2018 08:11 AM

Day 228


1977 (or later) Hall of Fame Pennant (Blue)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...FPennant_1.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...tCloseup_1.jpg

rats60 08-15-2018 08:34 AM

Wouldn't that be later? Whitey Ford & Mickey Mantle 1974, Ralph Kiner 1975 and Ernie Banks 1977 are on it.

docpatlv 08-15-2018 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rats60 (Post 1804008)
Wouldn't that be later? Whitey Ford & Mickey Mantle 1974, Ralph Kiner 1975 and Ernie Banks 1977 are on it.

Yes, I guess so, I only focused on Roberto and since he was on the end, I assumed he was the last player added, so I dated it 1973.

I will change it to 1977 at the earliest.

Thanks rats!

docpatlv 08-16-2018 07:35 AM

Day 229


1977 (or later) Hall of Fame Pennant (Green)...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...nant-Green.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...eenCloseup.jpg


***There is also a red version of this pennant that I will eventually try to add to the collection. Those are the only three colors that I have seen. If anyone can accurately date the year of issue, please let me know.

docpatlv 08-17-2018 08:45 PM

Day 230


1968 Topps...


https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat.../1968Topps.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...968ToppsBk.jpg

https://photos.imageevent.com/docpat...968ToppsLL.jpg

hcv123 08-18-2018 07:20 AM

Team issues/jay publishing
 
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So, I'm getting ready to send off some team issues to PSA for grading and figured it would be a good opportunity to share them here as well. While the "price guides and PSA lump together some of the Jay photos -I have narrowed each down to specific years - both from communicating with Jack Webster who has a wealth of knowledge about these as well as owning and going through multiple full team sets. So here is the breakdown of the Jay issued photos - Some of them are identified through subtle cropping differences (1959-60,1962-1964)
1956:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1957:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1958:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1959:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1960:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1961:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1962:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1963:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1964:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527
1965:
http://www.net54baseball.com/attachm...1&d=1534598527


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