Hake
 

Hi Rob,

You and I had the same exact reaction about the same exact pin. Amazing. There are 8 on ebay right now all between $17 and $40.
Did you go after Ruben Gomez?

Hi Andy,
Since we are talking pins someone won this Jackie pin that sells on the bay for 80-150 all the time, with the buyers premium sold for $864.00! Some prices I just cant understand!:eek::eek:

Jackie
 

Yes! That Jackie and the Hubbell are the 2 that really stood out. There are a bunch of others in the same category but I won't drone on. Makes me want to get in line after Paul's collection but it may be a long time and I'm not ready to sell anyway. Just FYI, I'll direct message you my new contact info (a few life changes to say the least). Hope you've been well...
-Andy

You got it Andy! I hope the changes were good changes my friend! Al

I kind of went after the Gomez, but not hard. I was hoping the usual guy would win it and the Antonelli at decent prices so that when he doubled the prices on ebay I would still be willing to pay.

Pinbacks...
 

Hello,

I Just wanted to post a heads-up that at noon (pacific time) today, I'll be posting a group of Minor League pinbacks over on the BST. There's a few better ones and a few more common. Thanks!

-Andy

All Star Pins
 

Hi guys, not a pin guy but I buy up all star buttons and pins if I see them for an affordable price to go with my all star programs and pennants. I came across these two lately and I was wondering if anyone knew of a date on these? I've seen similar pins for the Washington one dated for 1937 and something similar to the other one that was dated 1946 but no concrete evidence either way. Also, not knowing much about vintage pins, would pins like this have been reproduced at all? I was a little leery of the second pin because of the smeared ink on it, but figured I would take a chance on it. Didn't know if there should be things to look out for there?

Final question, I understand that Paul Muchinsky's book is the go to resource for these. I saw the post a couple of years ago on here about emailing his website to get one. Is that still the best way? If anyone has one they would be willing to let go, I may be interested. Don't see myself becoming a big player in the market, but I like having those kinds of resources.

Thanks for your time.

I’ve always believed the first one to be 1956. But it could be 1962. The second one is difficult to determine and could have been issued over several years until the supply was depleted. Just guesses, no proof.

For quite a while, the first one was assumed by many collectors to be from 1956, but pretty sure forum member Hank Thomas was able to date it to 1937. As for the Muchinsky book, the author has passed and I don't know if the site is still operational for sales. It's a fantastic resource with so many great photos but I think the valuations listed in the back are higher than many actually sell for today.

For years, it was assumed by Washington and other collectors that your D.C. All-Star Game pin was from the 1956 or 1962 games, both by the look of it and the fact that nobody knew about any others issued for those games. But about 20 years ago, I came across a picture of this Boy Scout Jamboree pin and knew instantly that the D.C. pin was also from 1937. There is another version that omits the D.C. location that I believe was made to accompany the attached ribbon, pictured below along with a different pin from that game that was also intended to have the ribbon attached. Does anyone know of another all-star game pin that comes with a similar ribbon? There is a very rare 1962 D.C. All-Star Game pin, pictured in the group of D.C. pins below, but none for the 1956 game that I know of.

Hank,
That is very good evidence that the pin is from 1937. Seems hard to believe there were 3 different pins made for that one game, but maybe so.

There actually were four, including the one in the large group to the left of center with a plastic batter hanging down. Another strange pin fact connected with that game is that the media pin is so incredibly rare, with only a couple examples known to me over the years. In Washington, with all its press, and FDR attending, you'd think there would have been tons of media there, so how can only a handful have survived? Likewise with the 1962 pin, which I think I've seen exactly one in all these years collecting and dealing in Washington stuff--how can something like that get produced and sold and none of them have surfaced? Maybe it's a prototype that never got made in quantity. Who knows? But these kinds of mysteries sure can make collecting more interesting.

Thanks for the information guys, and especially to Hank with your expertise on the Washington pin. That helps a great deal and excited it’s from the earlier game!

Hank, could the scarcity of 1962 AS Game press pins possibly be attributed to most members of the press preferring a tie bar to a pin? (Shameless plug - I have the tie bar pictured below currently for sale on eBay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/35318823566...84.m1555.l2649)

It's the 1937 All-Star press pin that is so very rare, Val, as well as the 1962 All-Star button you can see in my group of Washington pins. As for the relative availability of press pins in general, I would guess that the tie bars are a little harder to find than the pins themselves. I've always liked the tie bars myself because they really make the pin part stand out and there is more to them, but in terms of collector appeal, they do seem to lag behind the pins to some degree. Good luck with yours!

Big and bigger... found at a local antique mall, of all places.

Very happy to pick up these two 1.5" pins in the bottom row. I had the top two....it's interesting that 333 Geary and Powell & Geary are basically right next door to each other. For some reason, I always assumed Milton F. Kreis was an attorney. The name sounded lawyeresque to me. :p I have since learned that Milton F. Kreis was kind of a drug store/restaurant. Besides SF, they were also in LA, Palm Springs and.........Dayton, Ohio :eek: . Bustles and Beaus was an adjacent "retro burlesque" club which was open from 1960 until 1966. I had seen the "Go Furter" pin before but it just recently occurred to me that this is fractured German for "Go Further with (new Giants manager Herman) Franks." I guess we can assume Millton Kreis was German.

Giants...
 

Hey Rob, nice pickups. Here's my three...

I have the identical Montclair and also a Vanessi's in black on orange.

Since I now have a Kreis pin from 1958, 1963 and 1965 do you know if there are pins of the "missing" years?

Giants...
 

Not that I have seen. There's another "welcome" pin that just says Carpet and Floor Styles - 1899 Mission. That's the only other one that I know of.

I've seen Carpet and Floor Styles, as well.

My contribution to your posts:D

Off topic - but, Al - what did you use as a backer on that? It doesn’t look like foam?

Rob, that Lefty O’Doul variation goes to the top of my wantlist. It’s been awhile since I’ve seen one; yours is beautiful :cool:

Hi Aaron,
No its not foam ,to thick to fit in the 25 count snap case. I found that if you just use a thin piece of cardboard cut to size stick the pin thru it it works well. I find the white cardboard the the comic book backer boards uses works well! Makes it look better.....

Thanks, much Al - I appreciate the response.

I 'made'/cut foam inserts for my 2.5" pins and smaller.

Bought cases for my 3"+, and am looking for some other options.
I'm assuming you use comic backers on those too?

Anyone have an alternative they use?

Cases
 

Hi Aaron,

Years ago I used to attend the political collector shows. Tom French displayed literally hundreds of buttons in foam backed holders that he sells on his website. They looked really great on display. Here's his link with a tab on the front page to click on. https://usamericana.com/

Andy - you made my day. That is exactly what I'm looking for.

Thank you! :)

Holders
 

Hi Aaron,

Just a little heads up about some negatives. The holders that seem to be perfect for 3 1/2" pins are actually too tight. with the foam and the limited area side to side, you kind of end up "forcing" the lid down. Maybe he has a larger size that may work better. Also, because the lid actually touches the buttons, I wouldn't recommend these for litho's only celluloid. I didn't want the lids directly on the litho paint. It's probably not as much of an issue with the smaller lithos because the lids barely touch. Anyway, I should have taken a picture of his display back in the day because it was the nicest in the room.

1971 Expos pinbacks
 

Trying to complete this set, still missing Jim Gosger, Mack Jones, Coco Laboy, Dan McGinn and Claude Raymond, if you know of any....

Mauch
 

Hi Guy,

I don't know why he's on my want list but I always thought there was a Gene Mauch in this 69' set as there is in the 70' set. I don't know why it's on there but just wondering if you're pretty sure he's not included? I only need 2 from the 70's set.

I gotta say, I have never quite understood that red, white and blue Expos logo. Can anyone explain what the designer was “going for”? Maybe you have to be French to understand..... :p

The logo is actually an "elb" (red "e", white "l", blue "b"). It stands for Expos League Baseball, and together it forms an "M" for Montreal. Link below...

https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=...w=1301&bih=626

As for the colors, it is explained in the attached pic. You just can't make this sh*t up! :rolleyes:

Thank you , Mark. I’m glad to know I wasn’t the only one confused by that atrocious logo. However, if I read what’s in the link correctly, the logo combines an e-M-b and not an e-l-b. It’s pretty bad, no matter what they were going for.

Perhaps you're right... I read a few different articles with conflicting info, so who knows. I suppose if you're going to permanently name your franchise after a World's Fair (Expo '67 in Montreal) you deserve some criticism.

Who even remembers Expo '67 anyway? Professional teams really should not be named after temporary events. I am probably biased because as a kid, I was as much a Tony Perez fan as I was a Reds fan. When they traded Perez to Montreal after the 1976 season, it was a tough pill to swallow. I could not stand seeing him go from the Reds' classy and timeless uniforms to those goofy looking threads that the Expos called a uniform.

Dumb logo and dumber name. Just my dumb opinion. ;)

I saw your 1971 set , There was no Gene Mauch in that set , you are missing just the Mach Jones and Dan Mcginn, The Mcginn is nearly impossible to find

Thanks, Andy - I think the 4"x4" solves the 3"/3.5" issue for me better than I expected (so, they shouldn't be too snug)

Can't tell you how much I appreciate the feedback/help. :)

Guy I feel your pain I to am trying to finish this set I only need Mack Jones...Good luck in your search... And Andy my friend I need the same 2!:eek::eek:

Mack Jones is a tough one, I know of at least 5 of them, your McGinn is only the 2nd i ever saw.

That’s a great set. I’m glad I’m not trying to complete one.....although I totally know what it’s like to be missing “that one guy.”

So many great pins here -- it's been a lot of fun to see all the photos.

It's been quite awhile since I contributed to this thread -- I think this are new additions since my last post.

Greg

And a few more oddball pins.

Greg

That Goldpanners button is neat. Champions of the NBC tournament held in Wichita, Kansas.

Know anything about the Tigers, A's, and Senators pins?

Dave Winfield is on that pin as a member of the Goldpanners team.

Hank I don't know much about those three pins -- I did purchase them together, and really like their look.


Greg

I'm thinking perhaps an intra-company employee contest of some kind.

Not sure if Ive shown this one before.

Here is Cobb used on different items

Very Nice!:)

This guy, with red letters, proved harder to find than you might think.

Rob, I assume that is the 1.75 inch version as I’ve never seen that one at 1.25.

Yes, 1.75 inch.

Yes Rob that one is harder to find, mine also took awhile..... Always nice to add something to the collection!

No-hit pitcher pinback collection framing project completed!
 

After working on this project for about 8 years, I finally got this framed and up on the wall!

2024 Update: I added 14 more smaller no-hit pitcher pinbacks to my collection in the last 3 years.
Framed project is now complete! :cool::D

Way cool Scott!
I like the way that big Bob Lemon pin anchors everything right in the center.


Greg

Thanks Greg!
BTW, there's still room for a Noodles Hahn pinback.... :D

Scott,

Nice job. My wife did something similar with a 1956 Topps Pins set. I really like how it came out.

Attachment 440001

awesome!!!! :D

Love the displays.

Very Nice Scott! Some of those pins look very familiar!;)

Thanks Al! You are correct sir! :cool:
Thanks for contributing to my pinback collection.

Very Cool

Baseball pins
 

Hello all. I'm a longtime baseball pin collector, but new to this forum. Looking foreword to talking pins!!
I also collect vintage Negro League memorabilia and Jersey City Jersey's items.

Good to have you on board!

+1.

Welcome!

Well hello Gary! Long time no talk! Nice to see you have joined... Just to let the board know Gary has a very extensive collection.... As soon as he is comfortable Im sure he will post some of it!

Kolb's, Mrs Sherlock's, Diamond Gum, Rochester Mascot
 

If anyone has a Kolb's Miller, Smallwood or Washburn, please let me know. Also looking for Mrs Sherlock's Hyatt and Middleton.
And I'm always looking for Diamond Gum and Rochester Mascot gum pins.
Thanks!

New no-hit pitcher pinback acquisitions
 

HOF Ed Walsh 1910-1912 Sweet Corporal pinback

Knot Hole Gang pinback to accompany my 1938 Cincinnati Reds Knot Hole pass in my Vandy showcase.

Vandy's 1st of two consecutive no-hitters on 6/11/1938 was a Knot Hole Day game attended by perhaps 4,000-5,000 lucky kids in addition to 5,814 paid that attended this game against the Boston Bee's.

1928 PM6 Grover Alexander
 

I managed to pick this 1928 PM6 of Grover Alexander yesterday.

I've found some details on prewar cards

I've not been able to find any other sales of the pins. If anyone has any other background or info about values, please let me know.

Thanks.

Hi Gary! You'll find plenty of fellow avid pin guys and gals here looking forward to your posts. NL, too.

Terrific acquisition! PM6s used to be around some, usually undervalued as so little was known about the issue. Many have major rust problems for some reason, some almost like they were sitting in water or some other liquid for a while. Scarce now, I think the initial find(s) has been pretty much collected up. Not sure there were any commons in the set (of 10, maybe?), all major stars of the 1920s. I don't have Muchinsky's book, I'd like to see what he says about them.

Thanks Hank. PM6 isn't covered in Paul Muchinsky's book. I also have a copy of "Non-Paper Sports Collectibles" by Hake/Steckler. It's not there either.

When I saw the pin listed, I struggled to find any details about it. That's partly what got me interested. A Google image search brought me to the pre-war cards page.

There are 8 pins in the set. As you mentioned....no commons.

• Grover Alexander
• Ty Cobb
• Bucky Harris
• Rogers Hornsby
• Walter Johnson
• Babe Ruth
• George Sisler
• Tris Speaker

I could only find one other PM6 listing for sale https://ebay.us/iV3Hqy
There are no sold listings and only 12 PM6 pins ever graded at PSA.

If anyone has any other info, I'm keen to learn more.

How's the back on yours? I'd guess I've seen more with serious rust or acidification problems on the back (and sometime coming over onto the front) than were fairly clean like that Sisler (which seemed to me be listed at a very reasonable price considering how they've dried up over the years and how much rarer they are to begin with than P2s, which are at a comparable price for the HOFs, I would say.

I don't think the back on my Grover Alexander is too bad.

It's not, in fact it looks like it might even clean up some, though I would never attempt that. I've seen many that were much worse. I'd love to know what the story is on the horrific condition of so many of the PM6 backs, also if there was ever a paper label on them, though I'd guess not since I've never seen one. Thanks for sharing this one with us.

Hi Gary A nice little set! I dont believe they had any paper backing. Here is a little more info on them......By the way yours is in nice condition....

I found a great pin for sale at an auction that's out of my price range but thought someone here on Net54 might be interested in it. It says "SCORE AGAINST HITLER - LIFT BAN ON NEGRO PLAYERS". It's being offered by Anderson Americana auctions. Here is the link to the listing: http://anderson-auction.com/Score_Ag...LOT170503.aspx

Good luck if you decide to bid on it!!

This lot arrived in the mail today. :D

I bought this as a set to get the PR3 Orbit Pins and the PM8 DiMaggio PM3 but the Drenks Packers and the boxing PM10s were a nice bonus.

If there are any boxing collectors, I'm happy to let the Joe Louis and Ezzard Charles PM10s go.

1910 Mascot Gum Pins - Rochester
 

Added a couple to the collection. I believe the Martel is not cataloged, but hoping others could weigh in.

I'm hoping someone can give me some information about these pins. The value and scarcity would be very helpful. They have plain backs on them. Thank you in advance for your help.

Gumball machine pins about 7/8s of an inch.. The come in different color combos. sell anywhere from 5-25 dollars each depending who might need them.