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MK 11-04-2024 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2472745)
Here's a nice Phillies you don't see every day. Sold for a cool $13K in 2017. Not even oversized.

What's the significance of the decapitated head? Pair of balls?

That is an incredible graphic. And it appears to be very graphic.

UKCardGuy 11-04-2024 03:11 PM

Amazing pennant Marc. Thanks for sharing it.

perezfan 11-04-2024 06:56 PM

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Speaking of Phillies pennants, it looks like you picked up a great Phillies pennant recently, Mark.

https://youtu.be/23pTfvvNzQE?si=l5XqIRXFczAIKAzj

Congrats on the pickup. Any chance you could you share a photo for cataloguing purposes?

Here it is… already framed! Tough to get a good photo, as it’s a long, skinny bastard. Super interesting that it’s the same maker as Rick’s Red Sox pennant pictured in post 647. Same exact long bat with team mascot positioned to the left.

Many thanks to Keith Javic (Vintage Sports Flips) for consulting me and making it available. Keith is one of truly great guys in the hobby. He looks young, but has been doing it seemingly forever. Most of you probably already know him, but in case you don’t, be sure to check out his awesome YouTube Channel. If you appreciate the “thrill of the hunt”, you’ll love Keith’s videos (link below…)

https://m.youtube.com/@vintagesportflips/videos

perezfan 11-04-2024 07:10 PM

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Sorry for the gigantic pic. Here's one that's sized more appropriately...

ooo-ribay 11-04-2024 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2472819)
Here it is… already framed! Tough to get a good photo, as it’s a long, skinny bastard. Super interesting that it’s the same maker as Rick’s Red Sox pennant pictured in post 647. Same exact long bat with team mascot positioned to the left.

Many thanks to Keith Javic (Vintage Sports Flips) for consulting me and making it available. Keith is one of truly great guys in the hobby. He looks young, but has been doing it seemingly forever. Most of you probably already know him, but in case you don’t, be sure to check out his awesome YouTube Channel. If you appreciate the “thrill of the hunt”, you’ll love Keith’s videos (link below…)

https://m.youtube.com/@vintagesportflips/videos

Great pickup! You say you’re slowing down but I don’t believe it. :p


re: “Rick’s Red Sox pennant” - I didn’t realize Rick Haskins ever posted here. I have heard the name many times but, unfortunately, I’ve never had the pleasure of dealing with him. :(

And, yeah, Keith Javic looks really young! (comparatively speaking, I guess :mad: )

perezfan 11-04-2024 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2472745)
Here's a nice Phillies you don't see every day. Sold for a cool $13K in 2017. Not even oversized.

What's the significance of the decapitated head? Pair of balls?

Dated pennants and especially World Series pennants always seem to command a crazy-high premium. Certainly appears to have been the case here.

As for the significance of the creepy severed head.... no idea. Was it described in the auction's write-up? I forget who had that one... most likely REA, Hunts, Lelands or Mastro.

Domer05 11-05-2024 12:11 AM

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FWIW, this Phillies pennant was likely manufactured by The Reproduction Co. as well, probably around the same time period as the B.B.C. offering, ca. 1910-14.

Here's two more that seem to match your pennant, Mark. All featured rich polychromatic artwork uniquely created for each team. The cub artwork is the mirror image of "Bear with bat," which was copyrighted by Repco in 1910 and featured on other Cubs pennants from that era, as seen in the final picture below.

Are there any other known examples from this "horizontal bat series" out there?

UKCardGuy 11-05-2024 03:26 AM

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There's also a red variant of the cubs pennant

Fballguy 11-05-2024 05:17 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2472835)
Dated pennants and especially World Series pennants always seem to command a crazy-high premium. Certainly appears to have been the case here.

As for the significance of the creepy severed head.... no idea. Was it described in the auction's write-up? I forget who had that one... most likely REA, Hunts, Lelands or Mastro.

It was REA. They described it as a portrait image of Phillies manager Pat Moran. Weird that they placed William Penn's hand on top of it so it looks like he's carrying a severed head ala Kathy Griffin.

Just noticed too...The makers hid a bat behind Penn. It's peeking out from between his shins. Why not make that more prominent?

ooo-ribay 11-05-2024 06:00 AM

It’s crazy how rare the RepCo pennants are. My guess would be most of the original owners died 1940-1970. If the pennants were even kept that long, and I’m sure many weren’t, they were probably just tossed after the owner’s death since baseball memorabilia wasn’t really a “thing” in that time frame.

Why would anyone spend 100x (1000x?) more for a ‘52 Mantle card?

Hankphenom 11-05-2024 06:54 AM

[QUOTE=ooo-ribay;2472833 re: “Rick’s Red Sox pennant” - I didn’t realize Rick Haskins ever posted here. I have heard the name many times but, unfortunately, I’ve never had the pleasure of dealing with him. [/QUOTE] Maybe the nicest guy in the entire hobby. And I doubt if there has ever been a show he set up at in the last several decades where he didn't have the best selection of pennants and pinbacks, including every National.

Fballguy 11-05-2024 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2472872)
It’s crazy how rare the RepCo pennants are. My guess would be most of the original owners died 1940-1970. If the pennants were even kept that long, and I’m sure many weren’t, they were probably just tossed after the owner’s death since baseball memorabilia wasn’t really a “thing” in that time frame.

Why would anyone spend 100x (1000x?) more for a ‘52 Mantle card?

It doesn't make sense to me. As nice as a Mantle rookie is, it's not particularly rare. Would you rather have a 1 of 3,000 or a 1 of 1? Not to mention the art work and craftsmanship.

perezfan 11-05-2024 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2472915)
It doesn't make sense to me. As nice as a Mantle rookie is, it's not particularly rare. Would you rather have a 1 of 3,000 or a 1 of 1? Not to mention the art work and craftsmanship.

I'll never get it either. I guess it takes a bold collector to step outside the giant world of cards and appreciate a truly scarce art form. This is the part where we all pat ourselves on he back. :p

ooo-ribay 11-05-2024 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 2472915)
It doesn't make sense to me. As nice as a Mantle rookie is, it's not particularly rare. Would you rather have a 1 of 3,000 or a 1 of 1? Not to mention the art work and craftsmanship.

“1 in 3000”? I think there’s more than that!

MK 11-05-2024 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2472855)
There's also a red variant of the cubs pennant

Hey that’s mine!

Domer05 11-05-2024 05:00 PM

Let's see it Mike!

UKCardGuy 11-05-2024 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by MK (Post 2472977)
Hey that’s mine!

You have a great pennant. I claiming it was mine. :)

bocca001 11-06-2024 04:21 AM

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Picked this up as part of a trade recently. I'm calling it my Giants Babe Ruth pennant.

Related to all the Repco talk, three of the four Repco pennants from our recent "find" are now in Net54 collections. Would be nice to place the 4th (Athletics) in one as well. I'm just saying...

thetahat 11-06-2024 09:42 AM

The BBCs are clearly the most attractive pennants ever made. The detail in the graphics is amazing, especially given the fact that screening was very new. The only ones that come close are the few Collegiate 3D examples and 1950s Trench.

UKCardGuy 11-07-2024 07:16 PM

As a mini project, I've spent some time over the last few weeks, photographing my pennants and creating a google photo album.

If you're interested, you can have a look here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/5CwMVSUHgW4ASXk18

Any feedback about how to improve the album is welcome.

MK 11-07-2024 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2473401)
As a mini project, I've spent some time over the last few weeks, photographing my pennants and creating a google photo album.

If you're interested, you can have a look here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/5CwMVSUHgW4ASXk18

Any feedback about how to improve the album is welcome.

Great collection Gary! My only suggestion is to keep adding to it.

bocca001 11-07-2024 08:52 PM

Nice, Gary!

Fballguy 11-08-2024 07:23 AM

Great stuff Gary...A couple thoughts.

1) A little light on football
2) Not enough Philadelphia Athletics pennants.

:)

ooo-ribay 11-08-2024 07:45 AM

Great collection, Gary. A little birdie told me another great one is headed your way. Google photos is a super easy way to keep track of and share your pennants. If you see something you think you might “need,” it’s way easier to look through your organized Google album than a mish mash of photos you might have on your phone or computer. I’ve also made albums of my pins and bobbing head dolls.

In your collection, these particularly caught my eye:

Overland Day
Ca Angels w/ batting Angel
1941 Dodgers (I hate to admit it)
1960 Pirates w/AL walking the gang plank (that’s what happened)
Yankees grommet

What’s going on with the red Phillies sliding #4 runner? It almost looks like the red felt was applied to a white substrate.

You seem to beat a few different bushes than the usuals, Gary. If you ever see the Keezer Giants shown by bocca in post #8953 (a couple of pages back), I would be forever in your debt if you would snag it up and then flip it to me. Of pennants I could afford, it’s #1 on my wantlist.

Hankphenom 11-08-2024 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2473401)
As a mini project, I've spent some time over the last few weeks, photographing my pennants and creating a google photo album.
If you're interested, you can have a look here: Any feedback about how to improve the album is welcome.

Terrific collection!

UKCardGuy 11-08-2024 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2473488)
Great collection, Gary. A little birdie told me another great one is headed your way. Google photos is a super easy way to keep track of and share your pennants. If you see something you think you might “need,” it’s way easier to look through your organized Google album than a mish mash of photos you might have on your phone or computer. I’ve also made albums of my pins and bobbing head dolls.

In your collection, these particularly caught my eye:

Overland Day
Ca Angels w/ batting Angel
1941 Dodgers (I hate to admit it)
1960 Pirates w/AL walking the gang plank (that’s what happened)
Yankees grommet

What’s going on with the red Phillies sliding #4 runner? It almost looks like the red felt was applied to a white substrate.

You seem to beat a few different bushes than the usuals, Gary. If you ever see the Keezer Giants shown by bocca in post #8953 (a couple of pages back), I would be forever in your debt if you would snag it up and then flip it to me. Of pennants I could afford, it’s #1 on my wantlist.


Thanks for all the feedback guys.

Rob, I'm looking forward to getting the newest arrival. I'll add photos when I get it. You picked out a couple of my favorites (e.g. the Overland Day and the Yankees Grommet).

The Phillies Sliding Runner pennant is a funny one. The tip is missing. It looks like a previous owner gave it a tip transplant but couldn't be bothered to match the color. But it seemed good value for the $5 it cost me. :D

I'll definitely keep an eye out for the Keezer. It's hard to believe there's a Giants pennant that you don't already have.

I want to add some metadata to the photos (year, manufacturer, team, etc) to make it easier to search the photos. If anyone knows if this is possible on Google Photos, please let me know.

ooo-ribay 11-08-2024 06:10 PM

I certainly know nothing about “metadata” :p The other Rob might know.

There are probably ten SF Giants pennants I “need.”

bocca001 11-09-2024 06:02 AM

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Speaking of needs and all of these 1910 era pennants we have been discussing, this zoomed in image comes from an old photo from a Santa Clara university campus room. I think it depicts a baseball player. Does the particular player shape/image look familiar to anyone? Does anyone have a pennant from a different team/school with this same player graphic/emblem?

thetahat 11-09-2024 10:33 AM

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Not with that graphic, no. May be unique to SC. Related note: This is from Niagara University (then College) in Buffalo. Oversized and embroidered.

Hankphenom 11-09-2024 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2473772)
Not with that graphic, no. May be unique to SC. Related note: This is from Niagara University (then College) in Buffalo. Oversized and embroidered.

What a beauty!

ooo-ribay 11-09-2024 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2473772)
Not with that graphic, no. May be unique to SC. Related note: This is from Niagara University (then College) in Buffalo. Oversized and embroidered.

Beautiful and pristine!

bocca001 11-09-2024 01:25 PM

Embroidered makes sense. Hard to imagine there were many made. Always fun to have things to hunt.

Domer05 11-09-2024 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2473623)

I want to add some metadata to the photos (year, manufacturer, team, etc) to make it easier to search the photos. If anyone knows if this is possible on Google Photos, please let me know.

Gary, try clicking on the "i" (info) button on the top right corner of each image within your album. A side panel will open exposing a box for "Description" where you can add any further info. I believe these notes are searchable within the album/application, so when you're questioning whether/not you already own a '57 WS dueling pennant ... you'll find it relatively quickly if properly identified (you do!).

Great collection! Thanks for sharing.

perezfan 11-09-2024 02:41 PM

Awesome collection Gary!

You have a bunch of super-rare beauties. Thanks for sharing!

ooo-ribay 11-09-2024 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2473623)

I'll definitely keep an eye out for the Keezer. It's hard to believe there's a Giants pennant that you don't already have.

I may have shared this, but these are my "most wanted." A couple seem to exist only in a photo.

thetahat 11-09-2024 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2473841)
I may have shared this, but these are my "most wanted." A couple seem to exist only in a photo.

Have the 3-D Collegiate … would trade for either a Dodgers or Red Sox 3-D, unfortunately those are just as rare if not more.

I have to cut a slit in the holder so the bill of his cap sticks out as it should …

thetahat 11-09-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2473401)
As a mini project, I've spent some time over the last few weeks, photographing my pennants and creating a google photo album.

If you're interested, you can have a look here: https://photos.app.goo.gl/5CwMVSUHgW4ASXk18

Any feedback about how to improve the album is welcome.

Agree that this is quite a collection, my favorites are the ‘36 Yankees and the ‘41 Dodgers …

Fballguy 11-10-2024 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2473841)
I may have shared this, but these are my "most wanted." A couple seem to exist only in a photo.

I know three people who would love to own that Hamm's and I suspect only one of us, at most, ever will.

Hankphenom 11-10-2024 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2473869)
I have to cut a slit in the holder so the bill of his cap sticks out as it should …

What a bizarre graphic on this one! What in the world is this grotesque guy supposed to be, and what's with the tiny bat and baseball? Oh, OK, I just realized he's a Giant, but certainly not the Jolly Green type! Who would come up with something like this?

Domer05 11-11-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2473869)
Have the 3-D Collegiate … would trade for either a Dodgers or Red Sox 3-D, unfortunately those are just as rare if not more.

I have to cut a slit in the holder so the bill of his cap sticks out as it should …

Is the giant holding ... a baseball??

And he has a pair of googly eyes, right?

bocca001 11-11-2024 04:16 PM

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Not on the wall quite yet. I know people differ on this when framing pennants, but I like the tassels straight out, which makes the frame pretty big. The downside is that I could not get a suede mat quite big enough for the entire frame. So it's not perfect (one joint). But I hate to pay big $$ for professional framing. I ordered the frame, but did the backing and assembly myself. The photo makes the joint more noticeable than it looks in person.

MK 11-11-2024 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2474209)
Not on the wall quite yet. I know people differ on this when framing pennants, but I like the tassels straight out, which makes the frame pretty big. The downside is that I could not get a suede mat quite big enough for the entire frame. So it's not perfect (one joint). But I hate to pay big $$ for professional framing. I ordered the frame, but did the backing and assembly myself. The photo makes the joint more noticeable than it looks in person.

It looks great! I love the tassels straight out also. The pennant is the focal point so I don’t think the joint in the matting is a big deal.

thetahat 11-11-2024 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2474209)
Not on the wall quite yet. I know people differ on this when framing pennants, but I like the tassels straight out, which makes the frame pretty big. The downside is that I could not get a suede mat quite big enough for the entire frame. So it's not perfect (one joint). But I hate to pay big $$ for professional framing. I ordered the frame, but did the backing and assembly myself. The photo makes the joint more noticeable than it looks in person.

Looks great!

perezfan 11-11-2024 07:45 PM

Nice job, Marc... looks awesome!

UKCardGuy 11-12-2024 06:22 AM

I agree with everyone else. It looks great Marc.

Does the suede backing prevent the pennant moving?

bocca001 11-12-2024 06:38 AM

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Yes, the suede mat holds the pennant in place.

There are a number of framed pennants in the current Hunt auction. Some are clearly attached to the backing with some kind of thread. See the attached pic (to the right of the 1924). It seems like that method doesn't hold things in place all that well, leads to some puckering, and also could damage the pennant. I'm not sure what the other options are (tape?).

bocca001 11-12-2024 09:36 AM

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I used my one last scrap, made some no room for error cuts with an exacto knife, and was able to get the seam in the mat under the spine. Now I just need to find some wall space.

MK 11-12-2024 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2474311)
I used my one last scrap, made some no room for error cuts with an exacto knife, and was able to get the seam in the mat under the spine. Now I just need to find some wall space.

The two things that really hold me back are lack of wall space and of course money. Other than that I would go crazy. 😁

perezfan 11-12-2024 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2474292)
Yes, the suede mat holds the pennant in place.

There are a number of framed pennants in the current Hunt auction. Some are clearly attached to the backing with some kind of thread. See the attached pic (to the right of the 1924). It seems like that method doesn't hold things in place all that well, leads to some puckering, and also could damage the pennant. I'm not sure what the other options are (tape?).

Maybe the blue Painters Tape? I would never use any tape/adhesive that's more intrusive or "stitch" a pennant to the mat.

I much prefer to apply gentle pressure of the glass/acrylic... just enough to hold the pennant in place without inflicting any damage. I've never incurred one iota of damage (doing it the same way as your Oversized Giants) for the past 35 years.

ooo-ribay 11-12-2024 06:02 PM

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From the “Companion Pieces” thread…

Were these just someone else’s pennants? WGN’s maybe?

Domer05 11-12-2024 08:53 PM

Whoa.... I don't know anything about this distributor; but, the full size pennants featured are both by ADFLAG.

Not sure about the minis ... but, ADFLAG would make sense.

thetahat 11-12-2024 09:22 PM

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Maybe the blue Painters Tape? I would never use any tape/adhesive that's more intrusive or "stitch" a pennant to the mat.

I much prefer to apply gentle pressure of the glass/acrylic... just enough to hold the pennant in place without inflicting any damage. I've never incurred one iota of damage (doing it the same way as your Oversized Giants) for the past 35 years.

For just $40 (maybe cheaper?), a 40” poster toploader can give you two oversized holders.

ooo-ribay 11-13-2024 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2474432)
Whoa.... I don't know anything about this distributor; but, the full size pennants featured are both by ADFLAG.

Not sure about the minis ... but, ADFLAG would make sense.

Yeah, AdFlag. Thanks, Kyle.

I was just in touch with someone who actually owns a couple pennants I thought “might only exist in pictures.” They exist, but he’s not selling.

ser1979 11-13-2024 12:21 PM

Did anyone in here get this? Final price $430 not including buyers premium.

https://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/191446319

UKCardGuy 11-14-2024 06:39 PM

I was following that auction but wasn't keen on bidding. It seemed like a pretty good price for a lucky buyer.

Duluth Eskimo 11-15-2024 12:29 PM

Live Auctioneers has a habit or not going through with the sale. Check their feedback and Google them. I would be reluctant to put a large amount of money at risk with anything tied to them

UKCardGuy 11-16-2024 11:39 AM

Double sided pennant
 
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Here's something a bit unusual....a double sided pennant.

The 1940s Cubs is a pretty scarce pennant. (I need to give it a good clean.) But I've not seen one that's double-sided before. It looks like the Cubs pennant was re-used to make the Notre Dame version as the Notre Dame side has the spine.

Hankphenom 11-16-2024 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2474292)
Yes, the suede mat holds the pennant in place.
There are a number of framed pennants in the current Hunt auction. Some are clearly attached to the backing with some kind of thread. See the attached pic (to the right of the 1924). It seems like that method doesn't hold things in place all that well, leads to some puckering, and also could damage the pennant. I'm not sure what the other options are (tape?).

What did this one go for?

ooo-ribay 11-16-2024 08:03 PM

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What did this one go for?

Looks like the Walter Johnson went for a cool $11k. If that doesn’t include the BP, you can add another $2k. :eek:

MK 11-17-2024 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2475082)
Here's something a bit unusual....a double sided pennant.

The 1940s Cubs is a pretty scarce pennant. (I need to give it a good clean.) But I've not seen one that's double-sided before. It looks like the Cubs pennant was re-used to make the Notre Dame version as the Notre Dame side has the spine.

See post 973 in this thread

Hankphenom 11-17-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2475182)
Looks like the Walter Johnson went for a cool $11k. If that doesn’t include the BP, you can add another $2k. :eek:

Thanks, Rob. That seems pretty much in the ballpark, maybe even a little low for such an extreme rarity with such significance.

ooo-ribay 11-17-2024 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2475294)
Thanks, Rob. That seems pretty much in the ballpark, maybe even a little low for such an extreme rarity with such significance.

Well, it beats a 1-poor ‘52 Mantle.

Hankphenom 11-17-2024 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2475315)
Well, it beats a 1-poor ‘52 Mantle.

All depends on what floats your boat, I guess. I love cards, too, but I've always been dumbfounded by what their cost can get you on the memorabilia side, but the proof is there as to which is the 800-lb gorilla, with autographs coming in second. Pennants are a particular favorite of mine.

UKCardGuy 11-17-2024 04:32 PM

That Walter Johnson pennant was pretty special. There were some other strong prices but I thought there were a few bargains too.

I got distracted in conversation and missed my opportunity on the 1946 Tigers
https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...=250&lot_qual=

And did this one really go for just $99?
https://huntauctions.com/live/imagev...=252&lot_qual=

perezfan 11-18-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2475315)
Well, it beats a 1-poor ‘52 Mantle.

There are less than 3 known copies of the Walter Johnson Pennant, and literally thousands of "beater" '52 Mantles, either raw or in low grade. There's simply no contest regarding which piece displays better. I will never figure out the gigantic premium put on pieces of mass-produced cardboard that have no connection to the player.

The winning bidder probably paid about $14,250 with the BP, state tax and shipping included. I also thought it might do a bit better, but am not too surprised. The Yankees pennant Gary referenced should have gone for triple what it did. Tough to predict these erratic outcomes, but that's just the nature of Live Auctions.

Domer05 11-18-2024 12:28 PM

Notre Dame 3-D Pennant
 
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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2468425)
This cool 3d pennant sold on ebay this week (not to me). It's pretty funny that you can lift up the kilt.

Thanks for the inspiration, Marc. :)

Here's my latest creation, inspired by the fine work of Collegiate of Ames:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...legiate-mfg-co

ooo-ribay 11-18-2024 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2475549)
Thanks for the inspiration, Marc. :)

Here's my latest creation, inspired by the fine work of Collegiate of Ames:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...legiate-mfg-co

Stellar work, as always!

thetahat 11-18-2024 02:52 PM

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There are less than 3 known copies of the Walter Johnson Pennant, and literally thousands of "beater" '52 Mantles, either raw or in low grade. There's simply no contest regarding which piece displays better. I will never figure out the gigantic premium put on pieces of mass-produced cardboard that have no connection to the player.

The winning bidder probably paid about $14,250 with the BP, state tax and shipping included. I also thought it might do a bit better, but am not too surprised. The Yankees pennant Gary referenced should have gone for triple what it did. Tough to predict these erratic outcomes, but that's just the nature of Live Auctions.

Make that at least 4, with an asterisk, if you include this one. The story is that Walter objected to pennants being sold to young children and eventually refused to allow his likeness on them. Or something like that.;)

The actual story is that this was one of those pennants that hung at the celebratory banquet that I think Hank mentioned. I have a blurry pic from that banquet but would love to have a clearer copy.

There’s a 1925 Pirates pennant that resembles this, clearly the same manufacturer, but with a batter graphic inside the baseball, identity unknown …

thetahat 11-18-2024 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2475549)
Thanks for the inspiration, Marc. :)

Here's my latest creation, inspired by the fine work of Collegiate of Ames:

https://pennantfactory.weebly.com/bl...legiate-mfg-co

Fantastic, Kyle!!!

thetahat 11-18-2024 02:58 PM

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Found a pic online

Hankphenom 11-18-2024 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2475584)
Make that at least 4, with an asterisk, if you include this one. The actual story is that this was one of those pennants that hung at the celebratory banquet that I think Hank mentioned. I have a blurry pic from that banquet but would love to have a clearer copy. There’s a 1925 Pirates pennant that resembles this, clearly the same manufacturer, but with a batter graphic inside the baseball, identity unknown …

The photo of the WaJo pennants is in the Washington 1925 World Series program, showing the banquet for winning the 1924 A.L. pennant a year earlier with several of these on the walls. Since I've never seen a 1924 World Series crowd shot with one of these pennants, I'm guessing they were only made for that banquet, thereby accounting for their rarity, although I guess any pennant surviving from that era is almost by definition rare.

thetahat 11-18-2024 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hankphenom (Post 2475595)
The photo of the WaJo pennants is in the Washington 1925 World Series program, showing the banquet for winning the 1924 A.L. pennant a year earlier with several of these on the walls. Since I've never seen a 1924 World Series crowd shot with one of these pennants, I'm guessing they were only made for that banquet, thereby accounting for their rarity, although I guess any pennant surviving from that era is almost by definition rare.

Found my pic. It looks like these were the “plain baseball” versions, i.e. without the WJ graphic. Looks like the laces on the ball run horizontal. Hard to tell for certain. Wish I had a more detailed photo.

Hankphenom 11-19-2024 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2475642)
Found my pic. It looks like these were the “plain baseball” versions, i.e. without the WJ graphic. Looks like the laces on the ball run horizontal. Hard to tell for certain. Wish I had a more detailed photo.

Makes me wonder if the WaJo version was on the walls of the 1925 banquet, or if there was a '25 Washington version similar to the Pirates, which would have meant some kind of commercial distribution since the Nationals wouldn't have had Pirates pennants made up, I wouldn't think. Do we know anything about who made these?

perezfan 11-19-2024 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2475584)
Make that at least 4, with an asterisk, if you include this one. The story is that Walter objected to pennants being sold to young children and eventually refused to allow his likeness on them. Or something like that.;)

The actual story is that this was one of those pennants that hung at the celebratory banquet that I think Hank mentioned. I have a blurry pic from that banquet but would love to have a clearer copy.

There’s a 1925 Pirates pennant that resembles this, clearly the same manufacturer, but with a batter graphic inside the baseball, identity unknown …

Great '24 Washington Pennant, Greg! Is it oversize, full-size, or 3/4 size? I've seen that '25 Pirates Pennant in the past, and (from memory) I believed it was 3/4 size.

Also... Are we sure it's from the same manufacturer? The font is different, the laces are different, and the laces run horizontal, rather than vertical. Just curious how you are sure these come from the same maker.

Thanks!

ooo-ribay 11-19-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2475787)

Also... Are we sure it's from the same manufacturer? The font is different, the laces are different, and the laces run horizontal, rather than vertical. Just curious how you are sure these come from the same maker.

Thanks!

I thought the same.

thetahat 11-19-2024 08:30 PM

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Great '24 Washington Pennant, Greg! Is it oversize, full-size, or 3/4 size? I've seen that '25 Pirates Pennant in the past, and (from memory) I believed it was 3/4 size.

Also... Are we sure it's from the same manufacturer? The font is different, the laces are different, and the laces run horizontal, rather than vertical. Just curious how you are sure these come from the same maker.

Thanks!

Thanks Mark. Yes it’s full-size, about 28”. I just think by the general design it suggests the same maker. Also the laces on the WJ version run verticle. Here is it with mine, for comparison …

bocca001 11-20-2024 06:23 AM

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This one is on ebay right now as a BIN. Keezer pennant with concessionaire label. Boston Badge and Speciality co. Seller also has the Yankees with the same label. Kyle looked up the address and noted that this was very close to the Boston Braves stadium.

UKCardGuy 11-26-2024 08:17 AM

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Thanks to Marc and Rob for making this one available to me. It's my first Reproduction Co pennant.

My next step is to get this in a frame.

Fballguy 11-26-2024 01:25 PM

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Thanks to Marc and Rob for making this one available to me. It's my first Reproduction Co pennant.

My next step is to get this in a frame.

Glad it made it safely!

Rob

UKCardGuy 11-26-2024 02:28 PM

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Glad it made it safely!

Rob

Thanks. You did a great job packing it up. It's now framed but I need to re-visit the tassels. I think they need to go along the spine on the left side. I took the knot out of the tassels but after 110 years, they have a mind of their own.

<Sorry about the glare>


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