This cool 3d pennant sold on ebay this week (not to me). It's pretty funny that you can lift up the kilt.

Wait--refresh my memory: what Boston Braves pennant was that?

Maybe “commemorative” isn’t the best word. I meant a pennant that is beyond generic, identifying a season or a championship. Keezer did WS pennants for the Red Sox in 1946 and 1967 and the Braves in 1948. And they have roster pennants for both teams, circa 1949-50 like this one.

My home state. 👍

Another acquisition. Full-size. Is there an older known ASG pennant? I have seen two different for 1947 but besides this, none earlier.

That's a great pickup. 1941 is the earliest ASG pennant that I'm aware of.

In addition to the one you've found, I've catalogued this mini pennant from 1941. There's also these other 2 that I have listed as 1940s (but no specific date).

Good info, Gary. That mini is clearly from the same company (I think WGN). The two bigger ones you posted appear to be “Epstein”.

Having parted ways with this some 20+ years ago - now residing with Mark - it was thrilling to finally find another.

One of the coolest pre war pennants ever made. Congrats Greg!

Congratulations. I would love to know why it was just sitting in a storage locker. I would guess the owner didn’t know its value.

How many people would? About one in a hundred, I'd guess, or maybe one in a thousand.

Really nice, Greg!

The owner had to have realized it was worth something.... He went to some expense to at least frame it.

Which, depending on how long it sat in that locker, may have adequately preserved it over the past 90+ years.

You never know what you'll get from ebay...

Origami or some poor soul who didn't know about the "irregular size" surcharge. I used to mail pennants flat for $3.50, all day long, "back in the day."

For the love of all that is holy🤦How did it turn out Rob?

It turned out better than the seller’s feedback. :cool:

Thanks guys …

Did the seller send the pennant in an oversized package but decided to fold the pennant anyhow? That's insane.

Really pleased to add this new arrival. It looks like it's gone 10 rounds with Mike Tyson but it's still a 1938 Grommet pennant. And to top it all, it still has all it's tassels. :)

It was hidden away in a bulk lot of pennants that I suspect most buyers overlooked in the listing photos.

I'll be posting some of these for sale in BST if you're interested.

No, two different sellers.

That's a crazy bunch of pennants...a 1938 in with a 1993! :p

Three new pennant variations. The new ones are in the top of each picture.

Red ones: Slightly different forward F and the GIANTS is a different size.

Black ones: New one has a different size GIANTS vs. the one below it. Both have a different F vs. the bottom one. That one has yet another size GIANTS.

Burgundy ones: Forward F vs.backwards F and GIANTS is a different size.

I texted Bocca and told him I had picked these up cheap. He said "You and your ‘F’ variations." To which I told him "You and your spine color variations." :p

I agree. Some nice pennants mixed in with some junk. A small auction company that had a few lots of mixed pennants. My guess is that it was part of a house clearance. I held off on the others because I wanted to use my money to get the lot with the grommet pennant.

Of course this lot includes a 1950 Yankees AL Champions pennant even though I'd recently picked one up. <Doh>

Your new Giants pennants look to be in fantastic condition.

Do you dare try a LIGHT cleaning on the grommet pennant? Not sure it would do a lot but it’s gotta be dirty.

Now why did you go and put a thought like that in my head, Rob?

I think I'll resist the temptation to clean it. I think it might do more harm than good.

Speaking of grommet pennants, did anyone see this one that closed 2 weeks ago?

https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/item-831431/
https://www.cleansweepauctions.com/i...nant700739.jpg

Imagine what it would have gone for if it had actual grommets. :p

Here it is with grommets. Will consign this at some point, maybe B/S/T (prefer T) no more display room for it!

If you’re clearing stuff out, D**gers is a good place to start! :p

Rob, I think this is the first time we have ever agreed on anything.

Greg, I call dibs:)

Rick

Rick would give it a good home.

Will do … will send you a DM this weekend

Does anyone have a photo of the 1920 Indians or the 1933 Senators grommet pennants?

Here ya go, Gary. I have also seen a 1915 Phillies and 1918 Red Sox in this style but the person who sent me the pics asked me not to share.

Thanks Greg

I didn't "like' this pennant at all. It sold for $374.

a) how do we even know it's baseball related?

b) the Giants weren't using a black and orange color scheme in 1932.

c) the NY is Yankees, not Giants.

Am I wrong?

https://www.ebay.com/itm/196735565945

This one was discussed long ago (perhaps even before you joined net54). Consensus was that it is very likely NOT baseball related. Your instincts are spot-on. :)

I did like this pennant but the tassels seem a little weird. The spacing from top and bottom seems way off and the top tassels look thick and the bottom tassels thin. Maybe there's three at the top and one missing at the bottom? It brought good money. I wouldn't be surprised if one of you guys got it.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/205052528157

Wasn’t me, but this was a good get. The colors are vivid and it’s almost flawless. Hard to find without cracking in the shield. Might be the most attractive vintage ASG pennant. Not unusual for this company to be a little sloppy with tassel placement. I’ve seen it on others.

How could that be? I started the pennant thread. You mean you guys discussed pennants before I came along? :eek: :p

YES! There WAS a very substantial pennant thread before you came along. Perhaps someone can find it (who's better than me at the search function). I think of it periodically and would actually love to see it.

But when yours/this one came along, it rendered the other one irrelevant (as referenced by the utterly insane # of views :eek:)

Also just FYI, the irregular tassel placement is very typical for that '51 ASG Pennant. I've seen others just like that many times. 100% legit.

I knew it was legit. It does look like it used to have three tassels, top and bottom, but lost one on the bottom.

I’d like to see the old thread, too, but I’ll bet half the photos are grayed out Photobucket.

Would be fascinating to read and see what mysteries/theories existed pre-Pennant Guys. Also, painfully entertaining reading collector amazement when a Tobacco era pennant sold for $400. :cool:

Whoa Mark...Top 3 in 2007? Imagine where you rank now?! :)

Very first post too.

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Posted By: Mark Steinberg
Mike: I just joined tonight, and this is my first post.

I think I might have the best vintage baseball pennant collection in the world... top 3 anyway. The collection spans from turn of the century to the late '60s. It stops at the point manufacturers felt the need to cheapen / mass-produce the artwork, make them stiff instead of soft, and include the MLB Logo. Until I can figure out how to display them on the floors or ceiling however, I have had to slow it down a bit. I had hoped to create some type of memorabilia museum someday, but am doubtful that enough people would actually appreciate.

That’s gonna be fun to read through those TWO pages! :p

I was watching this on ebay...a mailing envelope for the 1955 Post cereal patches. The Phillies patch shows the hat with orbiting baseball. Greg, was this motif used circa 1955 on Phillies pennants? There are a few kind of hard to find Giants pennants with this motif, but I think those ones are mid-1970's.

That was exhausting!

Mark mentioned doing a coffee table book, 17 years ago. Well...?

Rob, yes, there is a Trench which dates to 1955-57 with the “orbiting ball” logo and the “TMC” trademark that dates it.

Cool. Pic? I had thought these were like 20 years later but I could be wrong. Bocca?

I think those Giants are 1970s. There are several "similar" pennants for the A's and Mets (circa 1973 or so.. with players names) that seem to be from the same maker. I'm guessing they were inspired by that long used Phillies logo.

That old thread was a fun read. Mark do you still have that 1939 Baseball Centennial pennant?

Many thanks to Mike K. for finding that! What a fun look back at my first-ever net54 posts.... funny thing is that I'm not much better at posting pics now than I was back then. Hard to believe that was almost exactly 17 years ago! :eek:

Well, I wouldn't place a wager on that one these days (any more than I'd bet on the Reds to win the World Series). :o

[QUOTE=Fballguy;2470571]Whoa Mark...Top 3 in 2007? Imagine where you rank now?! :)

Well I have added some nice ones for sure, but also let go of many that were irreplaceable (including that oversized Red Sox that I led off with :( )

Thank goodness there's no "registry" for pennants, but if there was, I have a feeling that there's a father and son duo from Wisconsin and a super collector from NJ who have surpassed me. Not to mention a dealer/collector from Texas with the jaw-dropping Red Sox collection and a few other guys who prefer to remain anonymous!

Hey Gary...

That Baseball Centennial Pennant was just a joke I played, that I had completely forgotten about. I had a piece of blank blue felt, and placed a Centennial Sleeve Patch and cut-out pictures of a bat and ball on top of the felt.

Totally fake.... There was a bunch of bogus and fake memorabilia on Ebay being passed off as real back then. So I thought it was pretty funny at the time to parody it. If you go back and read it, you'll see that it was never intended to deceive.

Hope all is well,
Mark

Ebay's been absolutely dead lately...as has just about every other site. But then when you least expect it...the grind pays off. These have been sitting in a chest in an attic in Eastern PA for at least the last half of their lives. And now they've been freed.

:eek:

Did YOU get them??????

Fantastic find indeed.

OMG! These were on eBay? Has to be the greatest pennant find ever.

Wow, I need to know what search terms you're using.

Nice find. Fantastic condition for the age

Not on ebay. Facebook marketplace believe it or not. The chance of this coming to fruition was around 1%. So many hurdles to clear.

First of all, to answer another question, you'd have to misspell "pennants" in your search to find them. The seller really fat fingered it.

Bocca actually saw them first, the entire lot for...wait for it....$40. Even with the misspelling it was only a matter of time before someone else, potentially local, thus more desirable, found them.

Add in...this was Facebook marketplace...a minefield of scammers to navigate thru and Marc freaked the seller out when he informed him of what he had lol. The guy thought Marc was a scammer and ghosted him. So Marc handed it off to me.

I told the guy I was very interested and asked for additional pictures. The only picture in his listing, I've included below. That's when I discovered there were two more baseball pennants. When I made my offer, the guy started to get suspicious of me...but was intrigued enough to stay engaged. I was suspicious as well. Sending this kind of money to a stranger on FBMP sounds like a horror story waiting to happen. I asked for his phone number. We had a couple of phone conversations. I showed him my website and after a little waffling between "let me think about it" and "lets do it" he warmed up to the deal. He seemed like a nice guy, which put me at ease. In his early 70s. He and his wife were in the process of clearing out his mother in laws house. The wife had never seen the pennants before but believed they were bought by her grandfather. No idea what they had, they initially considered throwing them in the dumpster and it was the wife who suggested FB. They were this close to likely disappearing forever.

Since Marc saw it first, I asked if he wanted to buy in, which he did.

The last hurdle was whether or not he'd be comfortable shipping. Most sellers on FBMP will not ship. But he was fine with it and shipped the next day. The USPS cooperated as well. They were shipped on Friday and delivered on Monday.

Crazy, unexpected deal.

The deal sealing follow up pics.

Note...The "Desert of Maine" pennant has been signed by Elmer. Not sure if that helps or hurts value. Thoughts?

I had no idea that there were more pennants. I had offered a good bit more than he was asking. But I was leery of getting scammed. And I could not afford to risk thousands. In the end, the seller got much more than $40 and 2x to 3x more than I was willing to risk alone. So he benefited in the end, Rob and I are getting some benefits. And others down the line will hopefully benefit as well (I’m keeping the Giants though).

^^^^ As Mike Wolfe would say, “picking folklore.” :p

There is also some poetic justice in this for me. I was officially suspended from one of the main facebook pennant groups about a month ago for telling someone that their pennant with a "Reproduction Company" tag was both original and old (it was a Michigan football pennant). This lot that Rob and I purchased has a good number of Reproduction Company pennants. The Giants will be the first Repco pennant that I own.

What a great find and an amazing story. Congrats. If your looking to sell any of the baseball pennants, I'd certainly be interested.

Wow! What a story. Great ending for both parties.

In doing some research today, I came upon this pennant from the 1913 Giants-White Sox world tour. I thought it was pretty cool.

https://ourgame.mlblogs.com/charlie-...ey-ccc1818a9bd

"pretty cool"? I would say that's very cool!

Those early pennants are gorgeous! Couple of questions:
1) Are those the earliest known?
2) Were all teams represented?
3) Any complete collections known?

Way, way cool! Some truly historic events on this tour. Wonder if any other pennants from it are known?

Sox Pennant
 

Looking for any information on this blue Sox pennant. Please DM me.

These are basically the earliest known series of baseball pennants. The approximate date is about 1910. IMO, this is the best series of pennants ever.

No, all teams were not represented. Kyle can probably give you who is exactly known. Mainly east coast teams.

This is about as compete as you’ll find in one place. Mark has some very nice examples in his collection.

These pennants are very very rare.

I was just reading Kyle’s blog about the “B.B.C. series”….Kyle feels all 16 teams were probably made but it’s impossible to say since so few have survived.


https://pennantfever.weebly.com/blog...eproduction-co

I'd be shocked to see some teams turn up, and truly believe that they were never manufactured for many teams.

I've been collecting pennants for 50 years, and have never seen a "BBC" Phillies, Pirates, Highlanders, Naps, Dodgers, Braves, Cardinals, White Sox, Browns, Tigers or Reds (which I would kill for). In fact, I have never seen an oversized Reds Pennant, period.

Maybe the "Dooin's Daisies" was a BBC Pennant (can't recall for sure), but if anyone can provide images of the pennants listed above, please do!

Dooin's Daisies was indeed part of the BBC Series, so there IS a Phillies. Scroll down and you can see it on this link...

https://www.thegoodphight.com/2023/8...elphia-daisies

Speaking of Phillies pennants, it looks like you picked up a great Phillies pennant recently, Mark.

https://youtu.be/23pTfvvNzQE?si=l5XqIRXFczAIKAzj

Congrats on the pickup. Any chance you could you share a photo for cataloguing purposes?

Here's a nice Phillies you don't see every day. Sold for a cool $13K in 2017. Not even oversized.

What's the significance of the decapitated head? Pair of balls?