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perezfan 06-12-2017 12:15 PM

No problem!

Fballguy 06-12-2017 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by yankeesjetsfan (Post 1670181)
That is a beautiful pennant. Please, Id love to see pics of it all cleaned up. That and the Namath. those are some gorgeous pennants.

Mike

I posted some after photos a couple pages back. In terms of cleaning up and whiteness it came out great. But the material feels somewhat thinner now and that has me rethinking trying any other "AFL" pennants. Maybe I need to dilute the bleach some.

As for the Namath...I'm not sure if I should remove the spine and bleach it separately, or leave it on and try to block with painters tape. That would be less hassle, but way more risk.

perezfan 06-12-2017 01:03 PM

Regarding the Namath, there is definite risk both ways. Removing the spine is pretty drastic, given it will likely have two sets of stitching holes/rows, when completed. And how can you be sure that replicating the original sewing style is even possible? To me, that's a more severe alteration than just a cleaning.

It seems safer to thoroughly tape off the body of the pennant, and then do the bleaching with pennant hanging vertically.... but with the pointed side UP (so any excess bleach would drip/bleed off the spine and away from the pennant). In case it drips, you can place a bucket or newspapers below... or do it over a bath tub or sink.

Just my 2 cents... GOOD LUCK, if you attempt it.

rdb34 06-12-2017 03:58 PM

Thanks for the compliments.

Mark, I found the same pics when i was originally was researching the pennant. The fact that no residual glue/paper is in the box should of been another clue that the Aaron side was recycled.

Really was hoping for at least a Lutzke LOL. Fun way to value something!:)

Any of you pennant guys have some early endorsed horsehide for trade?

Fballguy 06-12-2017 05:56 PM

I've got a Mizuno I bought at K Mart about 20 years ago. :D

ooo-ribay 06-13-2017 09:38 AM

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It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! :p I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Rob - I am thrilled that you have jumped in with both feet. Sorry about the failures but I think the successes far outweigh them. Here's what you might use on the Namath pennant. The bleach is more of a gel.

Fballguy 06-13-2017 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 1670522)
It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! :p I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Rob - I am thrilled that you have jumped in with both feet. Sorry about the failures but I think the successes far outweigh them. Here's what you might use on the Namath pennant. The bleach is more of a gel.

That's a great idea Rob. Thanks!

Aside from the Redskins pennant...which I have multiple of...just picked up another as part of a lot as a matter of fact...and which was pretty beat already...I consider them all to be success stories, compared to where they were in the "before" photos.

I experimented on a cheap 70's Yankees pennant last night. It had a lot of red graphics and lettering and true to form, ran like crazy. But I discovered the right course of action is to apply more water, not less. I just kept spraying until the water ran clear. The running paint just flows away and doesn't stain the pennant. It seems the red paint degrades over time, more so than other colors and you need to wash away that dead layer until it stops bleeding. To soon to say it's a perfect solution but it worked on this one.

yankeesjetsfan 06-13-2017 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Fballguy (Post 1670531)
That's a great idea Rob. Thanks!

Aside from the Redskins pennant...which I have multiple of...just picked up another as part of a lot as a matter of fact...and which was pretty beat already...I consider them all to be success stories, compared to where they were in the "before" photos.

I experimented on a cheap 70's Yankees pennant last night. It had a lot of red graphics and lettering and true to form, ran like crazy. But I discovered the right course of action is to apply more water, not less. I just kept spraying until the water ran clear. The running paint just flows away and doesn't stain the pennant. It seems the red paint degrades over time, more so than other colors and you need to wash away that dead layer until it stops bleeding. To soon to say it's a perfect solution but it worked on this one.

Would happen to have a pic of the Yankees pennant? I would like to compare it to the one I have and see if I can clean it up.

Thanks,

Mike

perezfan 06-13-2017 11:29 AM

[QUOTE=ooo-ribay;1670522]It cracks me up that Mark, who is apprehensive to experiment on his own pennants, is right there with advice! :p I will say, for the era Mark collects, I doubt he has many white pennants.

Touche, Rob...

The few white ones I do have were all purchased in very clean condition. So I suppose I usually pay too much.

But if I win a cool one that closes on ebay today, I will jump into this endeavor with both feet. It is/was white, it is soiled, and it has all-red graphics (yikes). So it will be an interesting test, if I can just win it. If not for this thread (and both Robs' advice), I would've just watched it without bidding. It's a rare variation for a sixties pennant... really hoping the compromised condition keeps the price down!

Fballguy 06-13-2017 07:45 PM

Yankees Pennant
 
Here's the before photo...

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b5...pswnv11bo5.jpg


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