Then the people putting stuff in the Ebay museum are in big trouble.

I have yet to a single explanation for how these acts did not violate California consumer protection laws. A lawyer possibly telling a client to do X (is this the angle we've decided on? I notice the Memory Lane fanboys don't seem to bring up the insurance fiction anymore. Is this the now preferred reason?) does not mean they cannot be criticized or that it is actually legal.

My opinion doesn't really matter to anyone else, and neither does yours. No shit :rolleyes:


I am happy to see you've moved to make this argument on grounds of fact, instead of your previous grounds of open and blatant bigotry. That's a positive, at least. What fact have I ignored? Remember, there is a transcript.


Who are these multiple people you are alleging is a danger to themselves or others or is gravely disabled and thus eligible for a 5150 hold?

I for one love seeing opinions on this topic. We are over 800 replies, which I think puts it in the top 10 of Net54 posts.

I don't think this story is going away for a long, long time. Especially with the fate of the missing cards still to be determined.

Has anyone on this board asked ML for a response to all of this? Especially if have dealt with them in the past.

That would take all the fun out of making up silly stuff and arguing it as fact. Early on one of the few people that would really know what is going on posted but the fiction writers like to ignore it as it doesn't fit their make believe posts.

So, do you think the thief may have stolen exactly 54 lots as some sort of tribute to this forum? I mean, he has apparently netted 54 baseball cards.

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So, do you think the thief may have stolen exactly 54 lots as some sort of tribute to this forum? I mean, he has apparently netted 54 baseball cards.

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The wifi is out on the short bus. Expect posts soon.


How can a seller list an item "in the ebay vault" without posession of it. Inquiring minds want to know!

I wonder if the FBI has put some kind of gag order on ML and GW+, which may be part of the reason there have been no public statements really since the theft, while they proceed with their investigations. It sure seems a long time since we have had any new info.

I sense a big existential moment coming.

Greg, legal opinions are like...you know. I would not advise a client to do what ML did based on my experience litigating CA's consumer protection laws on both sides (plaintiff and defense) over the last 30+ years, but that's my take. Unless/until someone sues, we won't have a definitive answer. For all we know, ML's counsel may have opined that while there is a substantial risk of liability, there is a negligible risk of significant monetary damages, so the odds of someone suing are low.

John, no government agency has the right to impose a gag order--that can only come from a court with jurisdiction over the speakers. Law enforcement can ask a victim not to make public statements but there is no prior restraint absent a court order.

Oh I'm very aware. I'm trying to get the Memory Lane defenders to make an argument on grounds of reason instead of grounds of pretending that lying to tons of people is not deceitful, or being richer, or obviously untrue insurance stories that have never happened before in the entire history of the world. It's a leading point to push to water so I have something better to contend with. It is, obviously, not the ethical high ground position to run a fraudulent auction, so let's try to do it on legal grounds then (or some other reasonable argument(. I want a good argument to debate with.

To memorialize this Memory Lane Lunacy thread, here is a 1954 Bowman of Memo Luna.


Brian (no longer my Memo Luna card...it was stolen!)

Fascinating story about Mr Luna

https://r.search.yahoo.com/_ylt=AwrO...xEgqcVnfdl2R4-

Brian, did you try to auction your Luna card after it was stolen? :)

Yes Val, but I wisely and appropriately pulled it from the auction before it ended.

Brian

Doubtless because you feared the California Civil Code.

How have they not issued a list of cards yet? With the National being in Ohio an easy drive for the thief to try and dump them. I hate to have someone out because they bought stolen cards. If they did release a list I am sorry I missed it. I think I have read through the whole thread but not reading it daily I may have missed a section.

There is no escape from the CCC.

Brian

How the heck did the Civilian Conservation Corps get dragged into this?

Unless you mean the Cannabis Control Commission, which might make some sense. :D

Everyone knows CCC is the king of reprints, Card Collectors Company

I move that we close this thread to all new comments unless they are related to the recovery of the 54 cards or updates on the investigation. I think all other angles have been sufficiently covered.

I gotta go see them the 5th of next month, wish me luck.:D

Seen this mentioned a few times during the thread. Totally disagree.

In the end, this may be the most replied to post in Net54 history. Why would you want to stop that?

It's in lucky number 13th position now.:eek::D

Is there a Best Western in Cleveland? Asking for a friend.

Are you ever funny? Asking for a friend.

Wow. Swift kick to the nuts delivered by Mr. “I’ve Been on the Board Two Whole Weeks”. I’m down for the count.

Ha, why can't I BE funny? My comment was waaay more funny

You're going to have to understand that a forum is for discussing things and posting. Almost all your posts are bitching that people are posting lol.

Is this an alt one of you guys made for a little laugh?

Was that a rhetorical question? And I am not asking for a friend.

I have a relatively long story about the Strongsville show and Best Western. Who wants to read it (it makes me look like a moron / idiot / dummy)

Post it some of us are bored and will read most anything. Plus you would be far from the only one looking that way.:)

Late Thurs (day of show) I leave Western Iowa and drive straight through to BW (11 hours). Arrive at BW 11:30A Friday. Go to front desk, "what time is check in"? She says 3:30 and I'm like F me I tell her been driving 11 hours.....she let me check in 3 hrs early. I go sleep for an hour, take a shower and go back to front at 2:30 and talk to lady at front about the show. She tells me she has a bunch of her Grandpa's cards from way back, I'm like jackpot! and tell her I was interested in buying them. I was figuring she was in her late 40's and assumed her Grandpa's cards would be from 30's and 40's. Before I left for the show I handed her $100 bill for letting me check in early and having the chance to buy her cards and left her my business card with cell # on back. I get up Sat A.M. run to the show real quick and pick up a 48' Leaf PSA 4 Jackie then leave for home. I knew this lady worked the following Tuesday so I waiting to call BW then. She said she didn't have the motivation to dig them out of the attic, I said "cash is a motivator". She said "give me until the weekend. I waited and didn't here back, I said to myself, F it, this is a chance of a lifetime and decided I was going to drive back on Friday of that week (I knew she worked Fri) with $1,000 for starters. Drove straight through again, walked into BW lobby and she recognized me right away. She said, "did you get my pics text"? I say "No". She says she texted them to ...and she rattled off my work #. Told her that's why I didn't get, cell # on back!!! She says "the cards aren't as old as I thought", I literally shit myself. She shows me the pics she sent......1987 Topps!! FML. I get a room, sleep for three hours and head back home feeling like a complete tool.

Just speculation, I know, but I can't help myself. Since the perp is some yob employee at GW+, and the video shows him clearly purloining the million $ card delivery, I can't help but wondering if it might have been some kind of inside job. He knew which box to grab and there must have been some kind of return address on the box showing ML or their address. It all just seemed so easy to make off with pricey cards. He must have had a good idea what was in it before he opened it. He took a hell of a chance, knowing that if he got caught he would be fired and face legal charges.

The investigation, based on the tape alone, would seem straightforward yet there has been little public information offered to date.

Just idle musings, but I want to go for a new net54 record.

Did I miss something in this story? I thought there was video of the box being delivered to the BW+ but I didn't think there was video of the actual theft.

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOL...I said the same thing to myself when I read what he wrote. He seems to have made up his own version of the story. :confused: That did not take too long now did it? Let's stick to the facts that we know.

All that has been made available to the public is that the surveillance footage shows Fed Ex bringing in the box and someone signing for it. The FBI has been involved as well as local police. I am sure both agencies have interviewed all employees, at least once, who were working from the time the package arrived and Joe arrived to find that the package was no longer there. Far as we know, no arrests have been made and the cards have not been recovered. That is even more stunning to me than ML shipping the box to nobody in the middle of nowhere and having it sit there for 3 days. This is an Ocean's 11 type of heist at this point.

Unfortunate you filled your pants, but at least she had toilet paper for you.

Chase, thanks for posting the facts. I assumed that the hotel "safe" room would have a camera and the theft and the one responsible would be on video. Assuming the thief was a hotel employee, the case should have been solved quickly and the cards perhaps recovered. The scenarios raised so far seem jumbled, but the fact that there has been no announcement weeks after the theft seems odd. You have set the record straight about what we know so far. If we had any idea what happened to the box after it was signed for, the picture might be clearer. I am sure the FBI knows.

I just got an email from ML saying the cards have been recovered (I was not a bidder on these cards but I am on their mailing list.)

Same here! Great news.

That’s awesome!! Hopefully all the winning bidders get their cards and this entire ordeal will be forgotten in time.

In case people are not on the mailing list:

AMAZING! All you blowhards whose opinions never mattered...still dont matter~

You know who you are. Complete blathering idiots!

WHAT A WASTE OF OXYGEN AND ELECTRICITY MY GOD


"uhh yea but but but but but...they were in the wrong"


guess they are STILL MEMORY LANE'S CARDS TO SELL...eh.....eh...eh?

Or no they belong to the consignors, or police or the belong to the bidder now, the cards are "recovered theft" and worthless

COME ON DIMWITS...we are waiting!!!!

Wow, it's almost like the advice ML took was the right advice.

Glad the cards have been retrieved & that an arrest was made

Well where's the fun in that.

I just went to ML's web site
 

If they felt comfortable enough to send out an email, there should also be a note on the front page of their website. At least in my opinion.

Rich

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"Come on, fellahs, it was a piece of cake solving this caper."

Ah, the venerable legal doctrine of post hoc ergo propter hoc.

That's wonderful. Hopefully the thief gets a nice new home courtesy of the state.

Confinement to the Best Western?

Opening and sorting junk wax packs for the duration of their sentence.

Super happy for Daryl, Powell, and the other winning bidders to have the option to close out their deals. Happy for ML and the consignors too.

Absolutely! They just couldn't wait for it to play out and let people do THEIR job(s)! Always have to jump to conclusions because they THINK they have the right to know everything!

I was thinking a nice little prison cell. I’m not sure anyone deserves the Best Western, after all :D

Two cards still missing. The story lives!!!

Wouldn't that be considered cruel and unusual punishment?

Plus, of course, that the later recovery of the items does not change that they hosted a fake auction for items they did not have. I’m not sure if folks just do not understand the actual objections or are willfully ignoring the actual objections made to try and frame it as if eventual recovery is contradictory to the dissenters statements and proof positive that those against the undeniable lies are inherently wrong.

Too bad you didn’t join a couple of months sooner.

I hear you. You’re preaching to the choir. There will still be certain people repeatedly screaming that everyone else is a blowhard without recognizing the irony in what they say.

recovery of stolen cards
 

First and foremost, GREAT news on the recovery of the stolen cards. I
look forward to a much more thorough explanation of events.

Idea for punishment of thief- he must serve all the Old Fashioneds and Ambien
combos to RepublicaninMass before he posts his ridiculous comments. On
second thought, that's cruel and unusual... Jail time must suffice!

Trent King

Is that your coping cocktail Trent?

I was thinking more like whisky and Metamucil

Yes fake!! They never owned them, the whole thing was made up with fake photos! Fake fake fake

FRAUDULENT according to our armchair attorney A Dum Guy, esq.

Yes we are the world!! Kumbayah!!!

I'm going to peruse the catalog again to see the fraudulent items I didn't bid on, but passionately argue my views on and demand justice!

JUSTICE!!!

Recovery of the cards is great for the consigners and the winning bidders. But it changes nothing about whether or not ML made unwise and/or unethical decisions along the way.

Reminds me of why poker can often be so profitable. Player A turns a straight and moves all in for $10k with one card to come in a $1k pot. Player B has a flush draw and calls the $10k bet. River card brings the flush. Player B celebrates and half the table tells him he made the right call because he caught his flush.

Are you okay? You’re so over the top in this thread it’s weird, invoking religious prejudice, your class bullshit, constant willful misstatement of what you’re arguing against. Why are you taking this so personally and lashing out so nonsensically?

Good news is they have plenty of money now to pay for the poorly scanned Gehrig.

Where did you see that 2 cards are still missing? The email that was sent doesn't say anything about that.

Yes, a regular Best Western, and NOT a Best Western Plus.

Pot...the kettle is calling :rolleyes:

I’m just going off of SCD.

https://www.sportscollectorsdaily.co...overed-arrest/

Yes, show me my statements supporting religious bigotry and classism. Go ahead, find them.

Thanks. They left that out of the email they sent.

From the SCD article: Jacob Paxton, 27, of Brunswick, OH, was arrested Wednesday and is facing felony theft charges.


Leon, no Net54 membership for this fellow!

Glad they tracked down the cards (52 of the 54) and made the arrest. On a side note, I am positive that Memory Lane has revised their 'shipping to event' procedures.


brianp(arker)-beme

Pretty amazing. For anyone not interested in the article it sounds like he tried to sell a few to a local dealer.

Memory Lane expects to receive the stolen cards fairly soon and will allow the winning bidders to complete payment if they desire.

Return Fed Ex?

I don't always use the opinions of others, but when I do, I use the ones of net54 dimwit posters

I am extremely pleased to report that my E105 Cobb was among the recovered cards.

Hoping the 14 Matty was recovered as well!

The article said the two missing cards had a value of $90,000, the Matty went for $145,000 so I think he's safe.

Also pretty sure the culprit will do everything he can to get the location of those two cards to the police. Anything to mitigate at this point.

For the most part, the final resolution is about the best that could have been hoped for.

The consignors get the value they deserved, the bidders get the cards they wanted at the price they were willing to pay, the auction house gets their commission, and most importantly, the thief will likely spend some significant time in jail.