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perezfan 11-04-2023 11:14 AM

Here's a clip from Pawn Stars I just came across, that I thought was pretty cool. A good deal in my opinion... fair to both sides. The seller knew what he had, got a good price, and left a little room for Rick to make a profit as well.

One of the few Pawn Stars negotiations that actually made sense... no shorting the seller, and no myopic seller asking 10 times what his item is worth. Forward to the 2:01:30 mark, if you don't care to see all the other negotiations.

Hope you enjoy- here's the link...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIwMdPKnWqY&t=6144s

thetahat 11-04-2023 06:18 PM

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Does anyone know if pennant toploaders come in smaller sizes than 12 x 30? I have these Bazooka pennants that measure 5 x 14.
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/202...d97caacee6.jpg

Poster/photo toploaders cut to fit. A guillotine paper cutter cuts through like butter, and you can make these quickly and easily with a perfect edge. Use the existing rigid edge on the bottom and close with clear wrapping tape (better than “invisible” or “magic” tape) along the top edge.

11”x14” toploaders work great for most minis, two per, and less than $1 apiece if you buy a pack of 20. I needed 13”x19” for my set of Bazookas. Still it ends up costing little more than $1 each.

Regular sized holders trimmed down at the open end can work but these Bazookas aren’t quite proportional to the full-size, you’ll pay a bit more and they won’t quite have even spacing.

661fish 11-04-2023 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2386089)
Poster/photo toploaders cut to fit. A guillotine paper cutter cuts through like butter, and you can make these quickly and easily with a perfect edge. Use the existing rigid edge on the bottom and close with clear wrapping tape (better than “invisible” or “magic” tape) along the top edge.

11”x14” toploaders work great for most minis, two per, and less than $1 apiece if you buy a pack of 20. I needed 13”x19” for my set of Bazookas. Still it ends up costing little more than $1 each.

Regular sized holders trimmed down at the open end can work but these Bazookas aren’t quite proportional to the full-size, you’ll pay a bit more and they won’t quite have even spacing.



Love mini Dodgers Greg.

661fish 11-04-2023 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2386089)
Poster/photo toploaders cut to fit. A guillotine paper cutter cuts through like butter, and you can make these quickly and easily with a perfect edge. Use the existing rigid edge on the bottom and close with clear wrapping tape (better than “invisible” or “magic” tape) along the top edge.

11”x14” toploaders work great for most minis, two per, and less than $1 apiece if you buy a pack of 20. I needed 13”x19” for my set of Bazookas. Still it ends up costing little more than $1 each.

Regular sized holders trimmed down at the open end can work but these Bazookas aren’t quite proportional to the full-size, you’ll pay a bit more and they won’t quite have even spacing.



Love the mini Dodgers Greg.

Dalberov 11-05-2023 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2385962)
I've never seen a smaller size. I just cut down the larger ones to the smaller size. Kind of stinks because they aren't exactly cheap. I've also tried using rectangular toploaders, but those don't work as well for display as the pennant tip will eventually start to obey gravity.

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2385985)
I have cut them down as well, to fit these Bazooka sized pennants. No other option that I'm aware of, either in the form of rigid toploaders or soft sleeves.

Not ideal, but at least it's easy to do!

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Originally Posted by thetahat (Post 2386089)
Poster/photo toploaders cut to fit. A guillotine paper cutter cuts through like butter, and you can make these quickly and easily with a perfect edge. Use the existing rigid edge on the bottom and close with clear wrapping tape (better than “invisible” or “magic” tape) along the top edge.

11”x14” toploaders work great for most minis, two per, and less than $1 apiece if you buy a pack of 20. I needed 13”x19” for my set of Bazookas. Still it ends up costing little more than $1 each.

Regular sized holders trimmed down at the open end can work but these Bazookas aren’t quite proportional to the full-size, you’ll pay a bit more and they won’t quite have even spacing.

Thanks for the replies, everyone. Very helpful!

bocca001 11-09-2023 09:42 AM

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New to me. SF Giants with Seals Stadium pictured. It's it very nice condition.

thetahat 11-09-2023 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2387342)
New to me. SF Giants with Seals Stadium pictured. It's it very nice condition.

Nice Marc … I don’t know of another pennant in that general style …

perezfan 11-09-2023 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2387342)
New to me. SF Giants with Seals Stadium pictured. It's it very nice condition.

Beautiful. One of my bigger regrets was trading that one away, as it never surfaces. Awesome example!

bocca001 11-09-2023 02:16 PM

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Thanks, guys. Here is the copy I've had for getting close to 10 years. I'll likely trade or sell at some point soon. It has a blunted tip and the top tassels have some dirt/staining at the tip. It's a bit more orange than the other (which I like). I know that ooo-ribay has two versions of this, with slightly different Giants font. And there is a version with the batter and parts of the stadium painted. I've only see it on Worthpoint.

bocca001 11-09-2023 02:26 PM

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Here is the painted one, that me, Ooo-ribay, and I'm sure several others would love to find. I think this Dodgers one may be the same maker. Probably Trench, because of what Oooribay calls the "cartoon" font for "Giants" that shows up on a few other Giants pennants.

perezfan 11-09-2023 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2387416)
Here is the painted one, that me, Ooo-ribay, and I'm sure several others would love to find. I think this Dodgers one may be the same maker. Probably Trench, because of what Oooribay calls the "cartoon" font for "Giants" that shows up on a few other Giants pennants.

Yes... I used to have a pennant string with mini pennants of all 8 NL Teams. The colored Giants version and that red Dodgers version (above) were both part of the string. So it's definitely the same maker. Another item I probably should've kept. :rolleyes:

Marc, if you ever do decide to sell or trade that one with blunt tip/soiled tassels please reach out via email or PM!

ooo-ribay 11-09-2023 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2387458)
Yes... I used to have a pennant string with mini pennants of all 8 NL Teams. The colored Giants version and that red Dodgers version (above) were both part of the string. So it's definitely the same maker. Another item I probably should've kept. :rolleyes:

Marc, if you ever do decide to sell or trade that one with blunt tip/soiled tassels please reach out via email or PM!

Soooo…the Seals Stadium pennant with some extra paint was a mini? I kinda hope so. It would make it easier to live without it. :p

Domer05 11-09-2023 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2387416)
Here is the painted one, that me, Ooo-ribay, and I'm sure several others would love to find. I think this Dodgers one may be the same maker. Probably Trench, because of what Oooribay calls the "cartoon" font for "Giants" that shows up on a few other Giants pennants.

Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

ooo-ribay 11-09-2023 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2387481)
Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

Domer - unless I’m misunderstanding post #8091, that polychromatic Giants might be a mini(?).

bocca001 11-10-2023 06:00 AM

I've had that multichrome Giants pic saved for some time. Never thought it was less than full size, but maybe? It does have a black spine, which is different that all of the other Giants copies I've seen. Mark- any change you remember if the string was black? And how small (about) were the minis?

ooo-ribay 11-10-2023 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2387521)
I've had that multichrome Giants pic saved for some time. Never thought it was less than full size, but maybe? It does have a black spine, which is different that all of the other Giants copies I've seen. Mark- any change you remember if the string was black? And how small (about) were the minis?

I may be a dope and/or misunderstanding, but post #8091 makes it sound like the Dodgers and Giants, above, were mini’s. That said, you don’t usually see that much detail on a mini.

Marc - can you find that pennant again on Worthpoint and see if the description references the size?

thetahat 11-10-2023 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2387481)
Never knew they made a polychrome variant of the Seals Stadium pennant! Funny, they never made a monochrome variant of its Coliseum mate.

The maker was indeed Trench. That same batter re-surfaced on a number of later pennants for the Dodgers and Giants. That said, the general look of these always struck me as a bit different from other Trench-made pennants from the late 1950s and 60s. Maybe a different artist's work?

This wouldn’t merely be a different artist, but also the construction is very different. (The spine width, tassels, etc.) … night and day different from the known Trench L.A. Coliseum pennant from this period. Like Arnold and Danny DeVito in Twins …

Domer05 11-10-2023 01:42 PM

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I really think they used a different artist. The normal Trench stadium pennant artwork by the artist we're most familiar with illustrated each ballpark full of fans. These renderings of the Coliseum and Seals Stadium are empty.

But, the batter depicted on these two anomalies was re-used on other Trench pennants, so I have no doubt these are by Trench.

Here's a ca. 1960 photo of a vendor selling pennants outside the Coliseum. You can see the red-variant prominently displayed, along with the more traditional blue one (depicting a full Coliseum), along with other known Trench-made pennants, like that Pirates one. Presumably, this vendor bought all his pennants from the same company ... so, that would be Trench.

bocca001 11-10-2023 05:40 PM

Sorry, Rob, full size.

https://www.worthpoint.com/worthoped...ants-413000922

perezfan 11-10-2023 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2387539)
I may be a dope and/or misunderstanding, but post #8091 makes it sound like the Dodgers and Giants, above, were mini’s. That said, you don’t usually see that much detail on a mini.

Marc - can you find that pennant again on Worthpoint and see if the description references the size?

OK.... let me clarify. The 2 "Stadium Pennant" examples Marc showed (Giants and Dodgers) are both FULL sized pennants. But it was asked whether these two were possibly from the same maker. Here is my (hopefully) clearer reply...

I formerly had a pennant string of 8 minis (you've all seen these pennant strings that include minis of each team in the league.... right?) Anyway, the pennants on the string included mini versions of the Giants and Dodgers Pennants Marc had pictured. This led to 2 obvious conclusions...

1. They (both the minis and full size) are from the same maker
2. The Giants and Dodgers pennants were produced during the same time frame.

Hope this clarifies it.... The pennants Marc showed are all FULL SIZED.

perezfan 11-10-2023 08:04 PM

Definitely both are Trench.

ooo-ribay 11-11-2023 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2387703)
OK.... let me clarify. The 2 "Stadium Pennant" examples Marc showed (Giants and Dodgers) are both FULL sized pennants. But it was asked whether these two were possibly from the same maker. Here is my (hopefully) clearer reply...

I formerly had a pennant string of 8 minis (you've all seen these pennant strings that include minis of each team in the league.... right?) Anyway, the pennants on the string included mini versions of the Giants and Dodgers Pennants Marc had pictured. This led to 2 obvious conclusions...

1. They (both the minis and full size) are from the same maker
2. The Giants and Dodgers pennants were produced during the same time frame.

Hope this clarifies it.... The pennants Marc showed are all FULL SIZED.

Gotcha.

Vintagedeputy 11-16-2023 05:13 PM

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Sorry for the poor photo, but I was too excited not to post right away. This rare beauty finally showed up today. It’s got some thumbtack holes on the spine and it’s missing a tassel but the graphic is spectacular.

perezfan 11-17-2023 11:28 AM

Great one Jim... What a classic!

Congrats on nailing that one down!

Vintagedeputy 11-17-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2389592)
Great one Jim... What a classic!

Congrats on nailing that one down!

Thanks! The pennant guide lists that one as very rare!

mikecala98 11-17-2023 05:04 PM

Looking to grab this Braves beauty today. Early 50’s?

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Vintagedeputy 11-17-2023 09:23 PM

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Looking to grab this Braves beauty today. Early 50’s?


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1950s

mikecala98 11-17-2023 09:49 PM

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1950s

Thanks!! The color is glowing. Like it came off the presses today!!

ooo-ribay 11-17-2023 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecala98 (Post 2389692)
Thanks!! The color is glowing. Like it came off the presses today!!

Yeah….love the color!

perezfan 11-17-2023 11:30 PM

It is amazing that some held their colors so well, while others became faded, toned or bleached out.

I know that direct sunlight and dust will do that. But I think a lot if it was also the different types of felt or cloth they used as well as the different grades of paint.

UKCardGuy 11-18-2023 07:54 AM

Great pickups Mike and Jim. I love the Braves pennants from the 40s/50s.

Did anyone see the Satchel Paige that completed at Heritage last night?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

Sold for $1,500 with juice. I hope someone hear got it.

Domer05 11-20-2023 12:08 AM

New Content Alert: The Reproduction Co.
 
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I'm happy to announce that this Friday, on Pennant Fever, I'll finally be posting some new material. This month, we'll take a close look at one of the most significant pennant makers of the 20th century: The Reproduction Co., of New York City. I know we've talked about them a bit on this thread, but, up until now, very little was known about the people behind the company; and, equally important: their story.

And, I promise you: it's a good story. Sex. Betrayal. Murder. Well, maybe not all three. But it's a story unlike any other maker we've covered before. So, look for that on Pennant Fever this Black Friday.

In the meantime, I just posted some new content over on Pennant Factory to help get you through the short week ahead. There, right now, you can read all about this pennant....

Vintagedeputy 11-20-2023 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2389751)

Did anyone see the Satchel Paige that completed at Heritage last night?

https://sports.ha.com/itm/baseball-c...kedLots-101116

Sold for $1,500 with juice. I hope someone hear got it.

That Paige is amazing. You know, when I started adding pennants to the list of things I collect, I considered only buying pennants of my team (Yankees) but there are so many beautiful vintage pennants out there and they can sell for big money so I just decided to grab anything vintage if it’s at the right price.

ooo-ribay 11-20-2023 06:38 AM

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I'm happy to announce that this Friday, on Pennant Fever, I'll finally be posting some new material. This month, we'll take a close look at one of the most significant pennant makers of the 20th century: The Reproduction Co., of New York City. I know we've talked about them a bit on this thread, but, up until now, very little was known about the people behind the company; and, equally important: their story.

And, I promise you: it's a good story. Sex. Betrayal. Murder. Well, maybe not all three. But it's a story unlike any other maker we've covered before. So, look for that on Pennant Fever this Black Friday.

In the meantime, I just posted some new content over on Pennant Factory to help get you through the short week ahead. There, right now, you can read all about this pennant....

Very much looking forward to both reads, Kyle. This purple guy is Reproduction Co., is it not? Coincidentally, I bid on it and it closed Friday night at Lelands. I didn’t think the hammer price was too outrageous but it was more than I’ll spend on a pennant….probably because, as Bocca told me also on Friday, I’m “cheap.” :p

bocca001 11-20-2023 11:42 AM

I said you had a reputation for being cheap. That’s totally different. How much did the NY Giants sell for?

Domer05 11-20-2023 11:52 AM

Rob: That purple guy is indeed a beauty; and, yes, it's one of many early 1910-era professional baseball pennants by Repco known to exist. I promise, you'll see a few more on Friday.

What did it go for??

thetahat 11-20-2023 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2390259)
Rob: That purple guy is indeed a beauty; and, yes, it's one of many early 1910-era professional baseball pennants by Repco known to exist. I promise, you'll see a few more on Friday.

What did it go for??

Just under $2300.

UKCardGuy 11-20-2023 03:32 PM

I was one of the underbidders on that Giants pennant. It's fantastic. The price was fair but like Rob, I couldn't bring myself to go that high.

There's been some amazing pennants for sale lately. I just need everyone to go offline and let me pick some of them up at a good price. :D

Kyle, I'm looking forward to the new content on your site.

ooo-ribay 11-20-2023 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2390255)
I said you had a reputation for being cheap. That’s totally different. How much did the NY Giants sell for?

I only bid in order to keep getting the Lelands catalogs. I knew I had no shot!

Vintagedeputy 11-21-2023 05:11 PM

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Another great vintage pennant photo.

perezfan 11-21-2023 07:06 PM

Just an awesome photo. Wonder how many of those actually survived?

ooo-ribay 11-21-2023 07:37 PM

Some other cool merch in that photo, as well…hats, ashtray, apron…

perezfan 11-21-2023 07:42 PM

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If any of you are thinking of getting your carpets cleaned for the holidays...

Be sure to have it done in this pattern. Home is where the heart is!

thetahat 11-22-2023 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Vintagedeputy (Post 2390674)
Another great vintage pennant photo.

Great picture. It seems as if the white is cloth and the orange and the black are felt. Are there any counter-examples?

UKCardGuy 11-22-2023 08:55 AM

Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

thetahat 11-22-2023 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2390800)
Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

Not sure but it’s awesome and if one still exists it might fetch four figures …

mikecala98 11-22-2023 12:31 PM

Officially a pennant guy now.

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ooo-ribay 11-22-2023 01:07 PM

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Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

The Giants had a similar hat, with a more understated feather. They called it the "porky pennant hat." They also had a similar apron which I like more, due to the semi-swearing. :p

bocca001 11-23-2023 06:45 AM

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Welcome to the world of pennants, Mike.

I have a 49ers hat that is very similar to the Houston Colts. It's one of those things that is kind of cool, but not the easiest to display.

I could not resist, for the price of about $22, this early HOF pennant with the nice Annin label. The quality is very nice. Relatively heavy felt. Good construction. Wish they made more baseball pennants.

Fballguy 11-24-2023 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by bocca001 (Post 2391029)
Welcome to the world of pennants, Mike.

I have a 49ers hat that is very similar to the Houston Colts. It's one of those things that is kind of cool, but not the easiest to display.

I could not resist, for the price of about $22, this early HOF pennant with the nice Annin label. The quality is very nice. Relatively heavy felt. Good construction. Wish they made more baseball pennants.

Uh oh Marc...Careful there. You're branching out. You'll be a Chicago Cardinals Super Collector before you know it.

Fballguy 11-24-2023 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2390800)
Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

That's from the short lived Huggy Bear Collection.

ooo-ribay 11-24-2023 11:36 AM

Fantastic Repco write up, Kyle! As usual, your research is unparalleled.

mikecala98 11-24-2023 12:30 PM

Another 1!

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Vintagedeputy 11-24-2023 05:06 PM

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Oh that’s sweet!

mikecala98 11-24-2023 05:45 PM

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Oh that’s sweet!

Thanks! Antique store was running a nice Black Friday sale so I had to pull the trigger!

ooo-ribay 11-25-2023 09:09 AM

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Amazing photo but what were they thinking with that black hat with the feather on the right side of the photo.

We'll get back to pennants, but here's Prescott Sullivan's "by-line pic" from a 1962 SF Examiner. He's sporting the Porky Pennant Hat ($1.50 in the 1962 merchandise list).

Haasboss2498 11-26-2023 09:19 AM

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More pennant sightings.

New to the thread, was really cool to see this picture. Acquired this pennant and was curious to its origin dates. 1944 looks pretty spot on considering this photo.

ooo-ribay 12-03-2023 09:19 AM

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Do you guys think these could be by the same maker? Both are slightly under "full size." There's writing in the lower left of the Sox pennant but JR can't make it out. He said it has some name and a patent number. A patent number? Weird.

P.S. The Giants does also come in blue.

P.P.S. If anyone here gets the Sox pennant, we need to decipher the writing in the lower left.

bocca001 12-03-2023 09:37 AM

That Giants batter always messes me up with the hands in the wrong position for a righty. Or maybe he is looking back at the umpire to protest a call.

71buc 12-03-2023 06:29 PM

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This one is rather rare. This is only the second example I’ve ever encountered. I purchased it and will donate the duplicate to the Clemente Museum.

Vintagedeputy 12-04-2023 10:39 AM

I’m not sure who keeps outbidding me on pennants days before the auction ends, but cut it out! Haha! 😆

ooo-ribay 12-04-2023 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 71buc (Post 2393908)
This one is rather rare. This is only the second example I’ve ever encountered. I purchased it and will donate the duplicate to the Clemente Museum.

Nice, Mike! Is the new one an upgrade to the one you had?

perezfan 12-05-2023 12:54 PM

A bit of a lull here in the Pennant thread, so just wanted to inject a "short but sweet" video on a rare AAGPBL pennant. There's no crying.... Hope you enjoy!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7Qnxb9YvS4

mikecala98 12-05-2023 03:34 PM

Grabbed a lot for a nice price off Facebook marketplace. 1960 Pirates with Clemente and the Senators has an original pin affixed to it.

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perezfan 12-05-2023 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by mikecala98 (Post 2394548)
Grabbed a lot for a nice price off Facebook marketplace. 1960 Pirates with Clemente and the Senators has an original pin affixed to it.

Great stuff.... Some classic mid-century examples there for sure. I especially like the Stadium pennants. Nice score!

ooo-ribay 12-06-2023 06:57 AM

Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

perezfan 12-06-2023 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394671)
Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

I think those tips are just bent, and the downward angle causes the illusion of trimming. Have seen this many times, especially when buying on eBay.

When flattened out, the illusion goes away. I bet if he ironed them or even provided photos of the reverse sides, you'd see a whole different image without this distortion.

thetahat 12-06-2023 12:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394671)
Great stuff, Mike!

If you’re new to pennants, you might not know the “ball” on the Cards and Indians pennants is actually the SS logo for Sports Specialties. They were a stadium concessionaire.

The Senators and Braves look to be trimmed at the tips. This is kind of a “no no” but can be overlooked (by some) if the price is right. Maybe they’re not trimmed; maybe it’s the camera angle…

I love how the border around the Pirates picture is a pirate hat and bandana. :p

The extra cool thing about the Pirates is that all the graphics have a velvet like texture to them. Just like the Collegiate 3D pennants. It still cracks but it isn’t just “paint”. Trench seemed to do this on quite a few 1960-61 picture pennants and at least one logo pennant (Phillies w/cap and orbiting baseball).

perezfan 12-06-2023 12:59 PM

Buyer Beware....

Not that anyone here would likely pony up the crazy asking price for this, but be warned that this is almost surely a reproduction pennant, and NOT original...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14547875566...Bk9SR6aP8YqIYw

The spine and stitching are all wrong for this pennant and it should be oversized (not full sized). Note how the seller's measurements include the tassels. Likely made by Mitchell & Ness, and heavily/artificially aged and weathered to look old.

Stay away!

perezfan 12-06-2023 01:05 PM

Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw

71buc 12-06-2023 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394179)
Nice, Mike! Is the new one an upgrade to the one you had?

Yes it is much nicer

ooo-ribay 12-06-2023 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2394754)
Buyer Beware....

Not that anyone here would likely pony up the crazy asking price for this, but be warned that this is almost surely a reproduction pennant, and NOT original...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/14547875566...Bk9SR6aP8YqIYw

The spine and stitching are all wrong for this pennant and it should be oversized (not full sized). Note how the seller's measurements include the tassels. Likely made by Mitchell & Ness, and heavily/artificially aged and weathered to look old.

Stay away!

Thanks for the heads up...I was just about ready to Buy it Now! :p

perezfan 12-06-2023 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ooo-ribay (Post 2394772)
Thanks for the heads up...I was just about ready to Buy it Now! :p

Haha. I guess the point I was trying to make is… If you’re going to ask an outrageous price for something, try to make sure it is what you say it is. :rolleyes:

Chstrite 12-06-2023 05:58 PM

Brooks Robinson AS Appearance Pennants
 
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NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

UKCardGuy 12-06-2023 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chstrite (Post 2394855)
NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

Congrats! That's a great ASG collection. I haven't seen that 1974 ASG pennant before. Very cool. I think there was a similar design for 1975. Great to see them all fanned out like that.

ooo-ribay 12-06-2023 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by UKCardGuy (Post 2394857)
Congrats! That's a great ASG collection. I haven't seen that 1974 ASG pennant before. Very cool. I think there was a similar design for 1975. Great to see them all fanned out like that.

Yes….a fantastic group of ASG pennants! So satisfying to “complete” something. 👍

Domer05 12-07-2023 01:20 AM

R. Worton Novelties
 
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Originally Posted by perezfan (Post 2394755)
Interesting and seldom-seen manufacturer tag on this one. Has this company been discussed yet? If anyone knows about R. Worton, I guess it's probably Kyle...

https://www.ebay.com/itm/16647730682...Bk9SR6iP8YqIYw

R. Worton was a brick and mortar retailer located outside (Old) Yankee Stadium. His tags have been seen on a number of pennants by different makers. Therefore, he's probably not this pennant's maker; rather, just its distributor.

Vintagedeputy 12-07-2023 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Chstrite (Post 2394855)
NFS - Finally found the missing piece to my Brooks Robinson All Star Game Pennants (1960-1974). This took several years. The missing Pennant was 1964 (NYC), which is not very nice but I’ll take it. In 1960-1962 MLB had two AS games in different locations. Some years had 2 or more pennants. Brooks was honorary Captain in 1978. Below are all of the Pennants by year with variations I own shown separately. I especially like the scrolls with Brooks name. The 1965 Pennant came in a blue and red version with a picture. In addition to the Pennants I struggled but found each All Star Game Press Pin, Ticket and Program/Scorecard. Always looking for the buttons, which are not easy to find. Enjoy.

Absolutely incredible!

perezfan 12-07-2023 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Domer05 (Post 2394953)
R. Worton was a brick and mortar retailer located outside (Old) Yankee Stadium. His tags have been seen on a number of pennants by different makers. Therefore, he's probably not this pennant's maker; rather, just its distributor.

That's very interesting and I now recall mention of them earlier in this thread.

What's odd to me is that the Worton Tag is incorporated into the pennant's original stitching which attaches the spine to the base felt pennant. So the manufacturer must have done this in the original production phase just for Worton.

UKCardGuy 12-07-2023 12:42 PM

I'm not 100% sure that it is incorporated into the pennants original stitching. Looking at the close up, is it possible that the tag was added on top of the original stitching? The loops on the stitches where the label is don't look the same as what's on the rest of the spine stitching. https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/zakAA...w8/s-l1600.jpg


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