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Some other questions, like I have replied to, are simply too silly to answer. Other questions, it's like everyone wants me to be their newspaper for them. If I answered everyone's questions, they certainly wouldn't take any effort whatsoever in finding/researching things for themselves despite me telling them that numerous times over and over. |
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You know, just like in your article where Steven states "the benefits outweigh the risks", why is it not for us to decide that? I can legally vote, legally drive, legally drink and do all sorts of other legal things as an adult but yet, based on the above statement, I can't choose what is injected into my body without punishment? I think of my wife and son who both had no choice if they wanted to retain their job and finish college based on "the benefits outweigh the risks". Who are they to to decide that for them? I honestly think if these vaccines weren't pushed so hard on people, more people would have likely gotten them? Numerous people I know said the same thing and numerous double vaxxed people I know, once they seen the number of fully vaxxed still getting covid, said to hell with the boosters. If the vaccines worked, nearly all populations worldwide would have gotten them and there would have been no need to force/coerce/lure/trick people into getting them. They would have sold themselves. |
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Again, read the study, and let's discuss specifics, instead of your usual evasions. |
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The rest. Whatever you say Peter. You or him are not fooling anyone by saying these vaccines weren't coerced on anyone, especially when he writes at the very end, "Get vaccinated" |
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By the way, in your first response you mentioned he was a neurologist. You knew he was a doctor. What is your problem? |
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And now, for something completely different:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2OwmhnymdY Be sure to stay for the disclaimer at the end. |
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Covid is over, and only affecting those who got the jab. This was biggest hoax ever perpetrated on the American people, and on top of that, tried to make sure you didn't have access to the cures (ivermectin, HCQ), and banned people who tried to tell you how to cure yourself.
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HCQ was banned as a treatment option in 2020 by our governor here in MI, unfortunately. My wife bought ivermectin (horse paste to the MSM viewers) from Tractor Supply and it greatly helped cure several of my family members when combined with Zinc, including myself, who contracted Covid last year. |
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In any event, I have no doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax. Fake news!! A nothingburger!! |
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Depending on your lifestyle, it should be up to you if you want/need a yearly flu shot or covid shot. I didnt really hear about any major outbreaks on planes, supermarkets, restaurants, and maybe i did hear about a few at some indoor events. With all the tracking, we still can't figure out where people were getting it from. |
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Nope, just stay isolated in your home at all times, wear a mask and basically have no social interaction at all. Fauci is on record in the vid I posted stating, "he needs people to "solely" take the vaccines and nothing else" and still some don't question that or connect the dots??? And some still think what the news spews to them is truthful. CNN, MSNBC and a few other were referring to ivermectin as horse de-wormer. Not one mention about the man who invented it winning a nobel prize for it. It was never touted as being a cure, it was touted as being a preventative measure, pre-covid, but, course, the media and those in big pharma tested it/tried it, supposedly, on patients who already had full blown covid then they used that info to slam it into the ground. HCQ has been around forever as well, but because, like Ivermectin, it is cheap and there is no money to make off of it like the vaccines, they also slammed it, especially since a prior leader was endorsing/recommending it. No, the vaccines were all about your health and well being because they cared so much and wanted you to get better asap!:rolleyes: I see a few above are putting words in mouth that I don't think covid exists or is real. I'm not 100% sure how they came to that conclusion and can extrapolate that from the info I've posted about the vaccines, but I'm all ears. Maybe CNN, bringing the teenager with Asperger's disease, Greta, on their show to discuss covid and the vaccines is all some need? I wouldn't be surprised by that at all. She's an expert on climate change and all because she watch a couple David Attenborough videos, so why wouldn't she know a thing or two about covid and mrna vaccines? ;) Regardless, the whole sh*t show is now falling apart on them, and has been for sometime now, but still, many refuse to acknowledge that. Even Pfizer's CEO is saying he had nothing to do with MRNA. Are lawsuits forthcoming? I certainly hope so!! "Albert Bourla CEO of Pfizer, on why mRNA vaccine was counterintuitive. "I was surprised when they suggested to me that this was the way to go, and I questioned it." https://twitter.com/CensoredThinker/...CjmaXb3dopAAAA |
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https://www.statesman.com/story/news...ar/5456106001/ "Washington issued the order to have all troops inoculated on Feb. 5, 1777, in a letter to John Hancock, who was president of the Second Continental Congress. In another letter, Washington ordered all recruits arriving in Philadelphia be inoculated." "Back then, the inoculation process was called variolation, named after the virus that causes smallpox — the variola virus. "It involved exposing people to the virus by scratching material from smallpox sores into their arms or having them inhale it, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. "Variolation was eventually replaced by vaccination after an English doctor named Edward Jenner noticed in 1796 that milkmaids who had gotten cowpox were immune to smallpox, according to the CDC. He guessed that exposure to cowpox could be used to protect people against smallpox and developed a vaccine." Unfortunately you are correct. I also don't "doubt that there are people today who, if transported back in time, would claim that smallpox was a hoax." But on the one hand, I take some comfort in knowing that if they were transported back in time, they wouldn't be able to get on the Internet to find like minded "dingleberries" to support their delusions. But on the other hand, I think they would fit right in with folks of the time: https://historycollection.com/10-tru...aughing-night/ Blowing Smoke Up the Ass, and the Healing Properties of Tobacco "The harmful effects of tobacco are well known and understood nowadays in most of the world. However, there was a time in history when not only were tobacco’s ills unknown, but tobacco was actually considered healthy and good for you. Centuries ago, tobacco was lauded as a cure for many ailments, not only by quacks and charlatans, but also by respected members of the mainstream medical establishment. "Tobacco was introduced to Europe by the Spanish, circa 1528. From early on, it was described as a “sacred herb” because of its supposed medicinal properties, as claimed by various Native Americans. Before long, European medical practitioners were treating the newly introduced plant as a miracle cure for sundry ailments, from headaches and colds to cancer. "Today, when somebody scoffs at another that “you’re just blowing smoke up my ass“, it is a figure of speech to mean that he is insincerely complementing the scoffer, telling him what he thinks he wants to hear. However, centuries ago, blowing smoke up the ass was meant literally, to describe a medical procedure in which a tube or rubber hose was inserted in a person’s rectum, through which tobacco smoke would be blown. "In the 1700s, doctors routinely used tobacco smoke enemas, in the mistaken belief that they had healing properties. Blowing smoke up the ass was thought to be particularly useful in reviving drowning victims. The nicotine in the tobacco was thought to make the heart beat faster, thus stimulating respiration, while smoke from the burning tobacco was thought to warm the drowning victim from the inside. It made intuitive sense: the drowned person was full of water, so blowing air, in the form of tobacco smoke which was full of healing properties, would expel the water. "Hiccup was that the water was in the person’s lungs, which are not connected to his or her ass. Thus, blowing air up the drowning victims’ butts and into their bowels would do little to expel water from their lungs. Although some doctors preferred sticking the tube directly into the lungs through the mouth or nose, most preferred to shove it up the patient’s butt, instead. "Although medically useless, belief in the efficacy of tobacco smoke enemas in reviving drowning victims, or even those presumed dead, was widespread. So widespread, that medical kits for blowing smoke up the ass were found at routine intervals along major waterways, such as the River Thames. There they waited, like modern defibrillators, ready for use to revive the drowned and bring the (presumed) dead back to life. "Blowing smoke up the ass was eventually used to not only revive the drowned, but to also treat colds, headaches, hernias, abdominal cramps, and even heart attack victims. Tobacco smoke enemas were also used on typhoid fever victims, and those dying of cholera. While the treatment was useless for the patient, it could be quite dangerous for the medical practitioner, particularly if he was blowing the smoke with his mouth instead of using a bellows. Should the doctor inhale instead of exhale, or if gases in the patient’s bowels escaped (i.e.; if the patient farted) fecal particles could get blown back into the doctor’s mouth or inhaled into his lungs. Such a mishap, particularly when treating a cholera patient, could prove fatal for the doctor." Move over Ivermectin, I see another cure for covid on the horizon. :rolleyes: |
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Has the overall death toll % changed in the last 10 years will all these added deaths? I cant seem to find much deviation. I'm seeing a steady .10 increase. |
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I also need to point out that I left out a key word in my previous post. It should have read, "Tell that to the 1,670 people, on average, who died of Covid in the US every day for the last 28 days." |
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The CDC data on excess deaths paints an interesting picture.Attachment 507165 |
Thanks for finding that,
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Saying that I would take it in a second, just want to call it what it is no matter the side you are on. Animal OTC medications/vitamins are way better quality than the same for humans. The ones for animals are actually tested and contain what is on the label. |
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https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/ive...ud-everywhere/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35179551/ |
Like I mentioned above,,,as a "pre-covid" measure.
Another Pubmed study that clearly shows there is something there using ivermectin as a preventative measure, like one taking their vitamins bi-weekly or daily. Ivermectin, as I also said above, is cheap. Is it any wonder why, because "they" cared about our health and well being so much, it wasn't suggested as a pre-covid preventative medicine/measure? "Our study aimed to describe SARS-CoV2 infection and death rates in African countries that participated in an intensive Ivermectin mass campaign carried out to control onchocerciasis and compare them with those of countries that did not participate" "Results: After controlling for different factors, including the Human Development Index (HDI), APOC countries (vs. non-APOC), show 28% lower mortality (0.72; 95% CI: 0.67-0.78) and 8% lower rate of infection (0.92; 95% CI: 0.91-0.93) due to COVID-19" "Conclusions: The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis". https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/ Another study from the National Institute of Health. Results and discussion Our study compared the incidence of COVID-19 among countries with different PCT campaigns and those countries in which PCT is non-existent. It is perhaps obvious that the latter group is by far the largest. It should also not be surprising that this set of samples had a rather large variability (Fig. 1 ). However, in spite of this, the difference between nations that deploy PCT using ivermectin and those that do not use any PCT turned out to be highly significant (adjusted significance P < 0.01). These initial results were obtained on 15 April 2020 and because at that time SARS-CoV-2 was still being detected in new countries on an almost daily basis, we chose to monitor the situation and observe whether this correlation would over time become less significant. We updated our calculations and added additional newly affected countries several times throughout the month of May 2020 and noticed that the observed association between ivermectin MDA and lower COVID-19 incidence actually grew strictly stronger over time. By 5 June 2020, the adjusted significance had improved to P < 0.001, actually reported by IBM SPSS Statistics as 0.000. It has remained at that level since. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7698683/ And another one. https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1....26.21254377v1 "Conclusions The morbidity and mortality in the onchocerciasis endemic countries are lesser than those in the non-endemic ones. The community-directed onchocerciasis treatment with ivermectin is the most reasonable explanation for the decrease in morbidity and fatality rate in Africa. In areas where ivermectin is distributed to and used by the entire population, it leads to a significant reduction in mortality" |
Ya’ll are spending a lot of time and emotion writing massive posts that convince people of nothing and accomplish nothing. All energy that could be spent more productively.
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On a side note, my wife also contracted a nagging cough early this past December that was originally diagnosed as bronchitis, as she was Covid negative. She was prescribed meds that didn't help, so she went to a different doctor about a month later. This doctor diagnosed her with pneumonia and prescribed her other meds that really weren't doing much either. So our same nurse friend suggested trying the Ivermectin again at '2 clicks' per 50 lbs of my wife's weight and her cough and pneumonia disappeared very quickly. Kind of crazy. That's our story. On another side note. After she ordered several batches of the Ivermectin from Tractor Supply, she began receiving emails from them asking how 'our horse' was doing. |
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I done a little research today just on it with out Covid in the search to avoid any bias. It seemed that it was very safe to take and any side effects where mild for most. |
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This is the best post about this thread (and a few other threads that have nothing to do with sports in anyway). For those who fill up my screen with link after link of nonsense and crazy conspiracy theories...Why work so hard to convince others that you are correct? Is it because you need the validation from others? This is a sports site....if I wanted to argue about politics I would visit those type of sites. Jeff G. |
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Do I get this from FOX News? No, from the CDC itself. https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/c....htm#AgeAndSex |
Pfizer CEO now says a 4th dose is necessary.
https://abc13.com/covid-19-vaccine-f...r-of/11650075/ I can see it now. In 10 years, people will still be dying with Covid and all their friends and loved ones will say, "If he'd only had his 32nd booster it might have saved him." Go get your shots sheeple...errr, I mean people. |
[QUOTE=maniac_73;2205408]Ya’ll are spending a lot of time and emotion writing massive posts that convince people of nothing and accomplish nothing. All energy that could be spent more productively.
Yup. Collecting baseball cards is the definition of productivity, along with learning the economics of supply and demand, sniffing out the fraudulent altering of cardboard for profit, and the posting of cards that most of us cannot afford to get a few "attaboys" on pick up threads.:cool: It would be a better world if Putin, Zelensky, Fauci, Xi and all the other pols were productive members of our hobby community. Who in their right mind would consider the invasion of Ukraine more important than the MLB CBA.;) I pray this post isn't too political for our fearless leader Leon.:eek: |
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There is this take though: https://www.nature.com/articles/d415...=pocket_mylist |
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I'll have to double check with her about when she had pneumonia, but I know she was taking a double dose each day (so, I believe that was 6 clicks per day). I'll ask her tonight how many days in a row she took it. I'm thinking it was probably 4 or 5. For Covid we were taking one dose (3 clicks for her, 4 for me) every other day for a total of 4 doses (over the course of 8 days), along with the Zinc and Vitamin D. She also takes other vitamins on a daily basis, but I believe those were the main ones. We didn't have any side effects. None. I remember that about an hour after my first dose last August when it was like 90+ degrees outside here, I had a weird 'clearing of the fog' feeling and felt great for several hours after that. That kind of went away later in the day, but each dose I took thereafter helped. My lingering Covid symptoms after finishing the Ivermectin were just tiredness/exhaustion that lasted a couple weeks. The Ivermectin didn't really eliminate that aspect, but it's possible it helped diminish it without me knowing. The exhaustion was the worst part for me. |
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The subtitle: "Modelling suggests that by the end of 2021, some 18 million people had died because of the pandemic" And also in the article: "But he stresses that such estimates also include deaths from other causes. More research is needed, he says, to separate deaths caused directly by COVID-19 from those that are the indirect results of the pandemic, such as those of people who did not have COVID-19 and died because of inadequate medical care in overwhelmed hospitals." But I also think the more accurate take wouldn't be because of the pandemic, but because of how we handled the pandemic. When you warehouse COVID positive patients with other elderly patients, you don't get a good outcome. When you negatively impact peoples lives by limiting their ability to perform their jobs in a relatively safe environment (ie those working outdoors), the stress of 'where does the next paycheck come from' has a definite health impact. I could list many other examples of the impact of COVID that needs to be appropriately balanced against the absolute numbers of the 'death toll' side. I will say it again that measuring deaths alone and even factoring in excess death models does not give the complete picture. What we leave out of the other side of the equation is the negative impact of the 'years lost' of those who were negatively impacted by the policies that were put in place to address the pandemic. And there were a number of stupid ones that we put in place even within the context of what we knew at the time. It will be years down the road before we'll even be able to model all the 'years lost' of people who did not die with COVID. |
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