Awesome display Mark! That vertical blue Cubs pennant is my favorite.

Those are fantastic! Love the Paige pennant.

Awesome...

Pennants
 

Those pennants and the displays you have going are extremely nice. Thanks so much for the pictures to view; appreciate it...

Pennants
 

Great stuff Mark.
Thought I would post some of mine.
Players Pennants
1947 All Star Game
1949 All star game
Jerry Sage

All beautiful but that 47 all star is AMAZING:D. I have never seen another.:eek:

Don't be bummed, Mark, but I prefer what Jerry does with his matting. ;)

Incredible collection Mark! I am always hoping to find a ratty oversized teens era pennant at a flea market for very little money (I can always hope). This is a fairly recent antique shop pick up. Has anyone seen this before? I checked Google and only found the Connie Mack ring leader pennant that looks similar, although mine is smaller and does not have Mack's name. Could this have been issued after Mack's passing?

Alan

Mike -
Appreciate your comments.
Especially coming from a member like you that has has a FANTASTIC collection.
Jerry

Rob -
Thanks - It is just a matter of what catches the eye.
Mark's presentation has a great "floating look" that captures lightness of the pennants. Mine is just a little more structured.
Jerry
Monday night - LA vs SF - Kersh vs Madbum........................

Mike -
Just checked the Vintage Pennant Guide reference book.
There is one on page 10.
Jerry

Thanks to the members above who made such nice comments :cool:

Actually, I believe the '49 All Star Pennant is the rarer of the two. Both are scarce, but that '49 circular design is never seen. I've seen only one other, that was offered by Hunt Auctions. So if Jerry's example came from Hunt's, then that is the lone one.

Rob:
FWIW, I also admire Jerry's impeccable framing and presentation style (and actually prefer his to mine as well!) Nobody does it better than Jerry, and Board Members like "Mike H", "Scott G" and "Jester", just to name a few.

The reasons I do mine the way I do is three-fold...

1. I don't like to hand the pennants over to a third party Framer. Just my own OCD affliction... would much rather do the framing myself.

2. Double-matting them that way requires an adhesive (tape or glue) or using a micro-thin "fishing line". Something to hold the pennant firmly against the back mat. Even though experienced framers can do this virtually invisibly, I can't bring myself to tape the reverse or stitch through the actual pennant.

3. Cost.... By doing it all myself (with sectional frame components) I save at least $120 per pennant on framing. 50 framed pennants X $120 is over $6,000 I've saved in framing cost... that's more disposable money for pennants!

Alan:
Unfortunately, that A's Pennant is a Mitchell & Ness Repro :(

One more hard to find pennant - 1955 World Series

Pennant was found in an attic back east. Leaky roof - rain caused the dis-coloration but no holes, tears etc.
I used Mark's framing technique for this one. :D
Jerry Sage

^^^^ That is one cool pennant! Is the fringe on the right end "faux"? Are other pennants known in this same style? Too bad about the discoloration. :(

Rob -
Not sure what you mean by by "faux". It is all in tact and 100% original.
I have seen a few of these 1955 WS pennants in the past.
Jerry

Thanks Mark! It is good to know. I having been having a run of extremely good luck lately so I am bound to have some duds. Luckily, it only cost 25.00 and my recent Brimfield finds easily pay for that.

Alan

Good to hear.... Even at $25, it wasn't a bad buy. I think these retail for around $35 - $40. And this is a tougher variation for them.

Eventually, you will come into a few vintage gems. Please be sure to post them when you do!

By "faux" I meant is it real fringe on the right end or painted on?

It's both actually! The fringe along the spine is real. The "fringe" at the tip is faux (painted on). Very unusual and desirable variation.

Here's one of the very few others (image formerly from Mike H) that has a fringe, rather than tassels. Must've been a short-lived New York thing ;)

Mark - Thanks for "faux fringe" clarification.
Jerry

PS - I like the graphic used on both of our pennants showing the fans entering Yankee Stadium.

Another couple of "fringe" versions although the 1955 World Series is the clear favorite and extremely collectible. I've had one or two others just like this, but they are very tough.

Pennants with leather design
 

Interesting pennants in recent live auction .... large (40") Cubs and Tigers pennants from early 20th century, same style, with two color felt, reinforced edges, and an embroidered leather logo/design with details apparently burned (?) the leather. Tigers pennant is fantastic and I wanted it but got pretty high ... I actually have the Cubs but with the gold and purple colors inverted.

I wonder if this is the oldest known "series" of pennants ..... I've seen Cubs, White Sox, Tigers, and I think Red Sox? Clearly they were all made by the same company or person. And I am guessing they pre-date silk screening, around 1910. The leather (and added accents) seems to serve the purpose of providing details that embroidered felt (as in other old, non-screened pennants) could not achieve.

Anyway, doubt we can solve this mystery but I find myself intrigued by them ... any help?

http://huntauctions.com/live/imagevi...=219&lot_qual=

'55 WS pennant
 

Here is a grainy photo of a red version of that WS pennant

What did the Tigers go for? &1100 doesn't seem bad for the Cubs. Maybe the somewhat generic nature held it back?

I like that 42 yanks pennant you have. Did you pick that up at the Balitmore national? I missed this one there

I think the Cubs went low because of the following...

1. Another one surfaced not long ago

2. Not quite as attractive as some other oversized versions (just my opinion)

3. Numerous moth holes scattered throughout the body of the pennant.

The similar Tigers version was more attractive, and was significantly better in terms of condition.

No, I bought that maybe 10 years ago ... I think ebay, but not certain.

I think I won the other one to which you refer, it was an eBay auction. I think the moth holes were most responsible. Or so I hope! :)

Agree on all points Mark. I personally didnt find the color scheme very attractive or at all relevant to the Cubs. At that price point I want to be in love with every element of a pennant.

GREAT LOOKING RED VERSION - 1955 YANKEES/DODGERS WS.
Jerry Sage

Have not been on here for a while. Really amazed at Mark's pennants. Kind of makes me drool!

Picked up this Collegiate of Ames Pitt Pennant. My daughter goes to Pitt, which has created a new collecting focus for me. I had not previously come across this pennant before.

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I love the bottle of "Old Panth(er)" :p

LOTS of Panther Personality here. Wonderful pennant--congrats!

Some great stuff in the upcoming REA auction! :drool:

Jack Barry pennant
 

Someone got a nice one. I was bidding for resale, but I think this was a bargain.

Someone got a great deal for sure.

Wow
 

Every time I feel proud of my little collection, I see one like this and realize I have a long way to go. Amazing stuff. I'm strictly a football guy but I love your collection Mark.

Rob

1946 Browns Team Championship pennant
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Thank you for the kind words, Rob...

It's taken a lot of patience, kind of a lot of money, and a bit of luck. I got into it just before the oversized market dried up, and prices of the really early ones exploded. So I consider myself very lucky. That said, I actually enjoy many of the more common '50s and '60s versions just as much as the oldies. Especially all of the cool "Stadium" variations.

Showdawg:
That 1946 Brownie Pennant with the names might be my favorite Football Pennant of all. I don't have a ton of Football, but will try to post my best one in a few days.

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Thanks...That pennant and this one are my favorites

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Yes- both are phenomenal. I love the Mean Brownie mascot. Things are so bad for the Browns right now... maybe they should put the Mean Brownie on their helmets (just for good luck!)

Tremendous collection... welcome aboard!

Alright Showdawg...Love to see some football pennants on here. Phenomenal Browns collection. I have several of those myself. I believe I only have one Browns pennant that you're not showing. Know anything about this one? It measures about 26 inches long. The tip is sharp but not visible in the pic. Nice shape other than missing the bottom two tassels.

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Rob

WOW!!!! Ive seen that pennant, but don't have it. Any chance you'd want to sell??? Have you seen this one?

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A lot of people only collect baseball and have no idea how difficult those early Browns pennants are. Early football is very difficult in general. Fantastic stuff guys.

Hi all,

Quick question, anyone has contact info for Rick Haskins the pennant dealer? Saw his booth at the NSCC back in august, but didn't get his card and he has no online presence to reach out to. Thanks!

Rick actually posts here sometimes. His Red Sox Pennant collection is perhaps second-to-none. Jaw-dropping, to put it mildly.

I bet he sees this before too long, and contacts you soon!

Edit.... His screen name is "Ricardoh", if you want to try reaching out to him.

If he doesn't make contact with you and you still need his email send me a PM. I should have it.

Compared to early hockey... Collecting early football is a walk in the park. 😎

Very cool Browns pennants Showdowg!

I found this pennant of Joe Lewis v Jersey Joe Walcott on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1948-Jo...kAAOSw2xRYUUFY

I was wondering if anyone wants to show early and vintage boxing pennants

I'm not really into selling at this point particularly my harder to come by pennants...but I wouldn't be offended if you shot me an offer. My plan is to sell everything upon retirement (unfortunately still about 20 years away) and using the proceeds to travel the world as long as possible...right now I could probably cover a 7 night Western Caribbean cruise. ;)

Just curious...do you have any other teams?

I have seen that style of pennant before but not the Browns version.

No, I don't have any other pennants but Browns...I PMed you an offer:D:D

Here's a cool find. I believe this artwork was originally created by a Sporting News Art Department staffer prior to 1953 as the Reds officially became known as the Redlegs (1953-58), but if you notice, the pennant design has been modified to read: Redlegs. Looks like TSN also licensed out their original art to entities such as sports pennant manufacturers. I welcome anyone else's opinions on the subject...

Chris, that's really interesting, thank you for sharing. I have written here before about my personal affection for certain styles of 50s pennants. That Reds logo was used on Keezer pennants, many (but not all) of which were stamped on the back by the manufacturer. Keezer made pennants spanning, at least, from '53 from '65, as they made Phila A's and Houston Astros. (Have also seen Keezer STL Browns - very rare, I have a mini version - but not Boston Braves.)

The same Reds logo appears in the 1956 book "Inside Baseball for Little Leaguers" (top left) along with most others from a different pennant series that seemed to be made in the early 50s, see those form my collection (top right). I believe these date to the early 50s based on a Cubs variation that celebrates their 75th anniversary in 1951; also the fact that the Phila A's and Browns are in this "series" but not the Orioles. 12 of the 16 logos from the book appear on these pennants, with the exception of the Phillies (used Blue Jay instead), White Sox (diff sock variation), Orioles, and my very favorite; the Reds, which begs for more explanation. It's cut off a bit in my picture but see my avatar ... can someone explain the bomb to me? See bottom left for a very old Reds design (hardly a logo) from the turn of the century? which again depicts a bomb-yielding Cincinnati Red.

So yeah, this is the stuff I wonder about ... not quite "What is the meaning of life?" but it keeps me entertained ... :)

A better view

Thanks for the info Greg! The story behind some of these pennants is almost as good as the pennants themselves.

I love that particular series of pennants, and know that they were issued in/around 1951. I have one with a written notation on the reverse, which states the date of the game and the teams who played (July, 1951). These pennants could've been sold for a few subsequent years, of course.

There is also a nifty series of Lapel Pins with these identical team logos. These pins are apparently (interestingly) dated 1954...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1954-Basebal...IAAOSwll1Wz3Mb

Odd Steelers Pennant
 

Wondering if anyone has any information on this Steelers pennant? It's not particularly rare but it's curious to me because it has "Championship - American Conference" on it. The graphic is an old style and Egner's book places it in the 1950's. The Steelers were in the NFL's old American Conference from 1950-52 but never played in even a playoff game during this time. Conference's didnt have championship games back then anyway. They were just called playoffs with the championship pitting the winner from the respective conferences.

Of course, the Steelers played in many American Conference Championship games in the 70's but this pennant obviously isn't from that time period.

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I am certain that this is a 70s pennant, that the book is incorrect, despite the early-looking graphic. The Ad Flag company made this, they produced baseball and football pennants through the end of the decade, often using designs from an earlier time. Still very cool!

Thanks for the reply. I suspected that as well. It's been a while since I pulled this pennant out so I may be mistaken...but I thought it was made of the soft felt used pre 1960's. This..along with the graphic...were the reasons I thought it may be from the 50's. But you're right...being from the 70's makes a lot more sense considering the wording. I'll dig it out this weekend and have a closer look.

I agree its from the 70's. Some people I know found a large group of them and were selling them at shows. It was the first time I had seen this particular style, but they are original. They had some others too, probably old vendor stock. Great looking pennant and not easy to find, but not an early pennant.

It is from 1972. Definitely an error in the book. Judging by the graphics it certainly looks 40's/50's but it is made of the stiffer felt. I couldn't pinpoint the year down until much later when I acquired the "set" from someone who said he got them at the game. It is the only time I have seen the Dolphins one and it seems to be quite rare. Mike

Nice porpoise on the dolphins pennant. :p

That is a rare Dolphins version. I have not seen that one either. Most likely bought on the street rather than at the game, but I get what you mean

Porpoise? I think that's a Mahi Mahi. Always wondered why they chose that graphic instead of the traditional "dolphin". But, I love that pennant. I have a couple of the original version sans AFC Championship reference. Never saw this version but would love to find one.

For Mike...I really enjoy your book. Was looking for a long time for a pennant price guide and was happy to find yours. I think the football portion could be enhanced and I don't necessarily agree with the the value/rarity designations in some cases...but I get how this would be an evolving encyclopedia, particularly for football as I'm guessing there are fewer collectors thus fewer pennants floating around. I've learned it's very hard to research pennants, especially the older ones...at least for the average collector. I also believe this book is the first of it's kind and should be built upon over time. If you ever decide to do a 3rd edition, please let me know. I have quite a few football pennants not in your book.

I mean this as a compliment...I keep your book on the back of my toilet and I reference it once a day...at least (Haha). Seriously...I'm always flipping through it. I also carry it around with me in my back pack whenever I'm away from home as I'm always looking for pennants and want your book handy.

Anyway...Thanks! ;)

Rob

Thanks. I agree the football section could be quite a bit bigger and prices have dropped a lot from 4 or 5 years ago with the common ones. At this time I can't image doing another version though.

C'mon, Mike! Full color, coffee table variety. :p

I would have posted this much earlier but it took awhile for to find this in my piles of Pirate crap. Nonetheless, this is a 1971 World Series Champion Pirates pennant. I would assume it would have been issued in late in 1971 or 1972. Based on the use of the same font on the word Pittsburgh and the vintage Pirate image it was likely produced by the same company as your Steeler pennants during a similar time frame. I hope this helps.

Anyone have a 1943 "Steagles" or 1944 "Card-Pitts" pennant?

It does thanks! Cool Pirates pennant too.

OK...So now...
 

I'm questioning the origins of this pennant. Thinking this might be early 70's as well? I thought early 60's when I bought it. Either way, I haven't seen many of this one.

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I say early 60s....AFL took a lot of their early designs from the older NFL pennants. I would think this design would be gone by early 70s
.....still not as nice as that Browns pennant you have :-) :-) :-) :-) :-)

Same thing happened with Browns pennant....My guess is they weren't prepared for playoffs/championship, so they grabbed some old stock pennants and printed them up with the championship lettering

This is an old Browns pennant from the 40s.....
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When the Browns won championship in 1964, that pennant reappeared as a 1964 Championship pennant
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I think the same thing happened with your pennant

Remember the old ads in TV Guide that asked you to sketch and submit a cartoon drawing? The "winner" would get discounted art lessons or something. Well I think that's how the Ad Flag Pennant Company hired their artists. I have some Ad Flags in my collection and they are universally just ugly-a** pennants. Look at this Brooklyn Dodgers pennant. I have to have it, I am a collector and it is Brooklyn after all. But the guy looks less like a bum and more like a sex offender. And why the huge claw-like hand? This Phillies "quaker" pennant started giving me the creeps so I took it down, I might have to bury it in the backyard before it gives me bad dreams. And what is he stepping on ... is that a base or a box of Tastykakes?

On top of the bad art, they were often poorly cut (crooked, as with scissors) and the old-style designs have confused many collectors, as evident by this discussion ... I'm guessing these weren't sold in the ballparks but instead in the parking lots or back alleys.

First of all, this is a rare Jets pennant and I'm sure a lot of people would need this for their collection. With that being said, oftentimes these styles were used for several teams hence the same design as the Steelers. Very generic and easy to change to whatever game or notations needed for that time. Oftentimes these designs were used for many years and "pulled out" when needed. Some sold better than others and some are very rare. Bottom line, nice pennant.

Ps: same thing goes for baseball and oftentimes sold outside the stadium for many years

Showdawg: Makes sense. BTW...I found another guy with the same Browns pennant I have. Unfortunately, he's not ready to sell either. I was going to put him in touch with you.

Thetahat: LOLOL. Hilarious write up. You're right. Super creepy sex offender and I don't know much about baseball but wasn't it "Dem Bums"?

Duluth: Thanks for the information. As always, I appreciate your input.

Dug through my pennants for the first time in a while and started taking pictures of the less common ones. They're not all in the best of condition, but they come around so infrequently, I don't care. I'll put a "few" up here on the boards....hope no one minds. :)

Sorry for the bad pics...The tips are all intact. I'm just a lousy photographer.

That's a crease in the Redskins pennant not a rip and a reflection on the Lions pennant not a stain. I love that Giants pennant but it's my most tragic pennant story. It was shipped to me unprotected, flat between two long cardboard pieces...which were completely mummified with packing tape. I almost dialed 911 as I needed the jaws of life to extract it. As I cut through the tape...not knowing the pennant was loose inside, I put a three inch incision in the bottom, under the "G" in Giants. Still PO'd about that. Haven't seen another of these since then.

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