I’m glad you like the idea, Bob. I’ve always admired the Matty Tuxedo box for its sculptural quality, and thought that treating it like a sculpture was the way to go. I don’t have any specific recommendations for a mount maker. I think there are several makers who could do it very well. They key is to experiment with different angles and see what works best.

Very nice Bob and Tony! Those are fantastic pieces, especially the Tuxedo.

I am not sure what this is, but it appears to be hand painted and measures 9" x 11". I assume a tobacco store owner made it for the window or the door.

hmmmm
 

I wouldn't think the sign to be painted by or offered by the store owner. Possibly a jobber but most likely the company itself. Lorillard around since the 1700's and they weren't likely to leave such signage (modest as it is) to the purveyor. I have seen something quite similar - will need time to access the memory :-)

That Tuxedo box is spectacular......

Another Matty Piece
 

One of the better conditioned pieces I have ever seen

Great recent pickups. Bob, have you tried any of those gum balls? They look tasty.

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

If you don't find a Cobb in the first MECCA pack, then open up a 2nd pack :)


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...esnahan75x.jpg > > > > http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eccacobb_1.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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Man... Ted! I woulda Stopped wit Mr. Bresnahan :)
Nice!!!

I picked this up from another board member sumtime ago...
Has Anyone else ever seen one wit the Mustered Gold Color about?

Keeping the All time best thread alive
 

This is truly my favorite thread, three Colgan's Chips Ad

Pretty stoked to have picked this up earlier this week.

That is a great pack Jon! Congrats again on an amazing pick-up. The September 1886 tax stamp cancel would place that just a couple months before Goodwin & Co. transitioned to slide & shell packs.


Here are a couple other packs that Henry recently parted with. I love how Goodwin used the seal strips to help secure not only the side seam but cover the top of the pack. In the case of Old Judge the seal strip also wrapped around the bottom of the pack. When they transitioned to slide and shell packs they continued to print this seal strip on the slide although it didn't help seal anything (merely printed). Both of these paper packs date to 1884 (Aug. 1, 1884 cancel on Old Judge pack, March 1, 1884 cancel on Welcome). I believe the Welcome brand would be discontinued by Goodwin by the time they transitioned to slide and shell packs (card distribution).

The Old Judge paper pack and the graphic used on the slide and shell are nearly identical. When you overlay a slide and shell pack (this is an 1887 20 count slide & shell box) over the earlier paper pack you see they are same size and nearly identical in design. I went 50% transparent on the slide & shell so you can see both packs at the same time.

To keep the theme going, here's one more new one.

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

Lots-n-lots of really great Tobacco, Candy, and Gum advertisements & cards in this thread....but, not too many Bread (bakery) advs. on display.
So, here's a 1940's Bread adv. and some of my 1947 Yankees team collection pulled from these bread packages.



http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...PTOPadv25x.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...eestiptop6.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...BreadBerra.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...pTopBreadB.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Bakery stuff never gets it's just dues.....Eat some Kroger Bread and get a tag card....

http://luckeycards.com/pdunc1936krogerbreadriddle.jpg

That's because bread cards tend to go stale quickly :)

I got these in Mail today Wilson Baseball Softball, Nellie Foxx Shoe box. And what ai was really after. A ball display with Foxx, Apparicio, Antonelli , And Al Kaline. gotta figure out how to display without fading colors. maybe a UV hat box??

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...TobaccoAdv.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...obaccoAdvB.jpg


Just a tidbit of Tobacco trivia...... P. Lorillard is the oldest tobacco products manufacturer in the U.S. ?




http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dCross50xb.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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circa
 

1760's...…….

Happy to pick up an original Ginter coupon
 

https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-wDRLLk1Ik...Coupon%2B1.jpg

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-6FteEng0I...Coupon%2B2.jpg

Redemption Coupons
 

Hello Greg, nice coupon; good to see others take interest. I'm up to 14 different A&G coupons (pre ATC merger). My favorite is the following which advertises the World’s Champions album (A16 - album of the N28 cards). I'm not aware of another copy but certain others must be out there.

Circa 1870's - 1880's......Allen & Ginter Tobacco Tin
 

4 1/2" x 3 1/4" x 2 1/4" deep


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...accoTin25x.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...hmondVAx25.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dTobTin25x.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Nice addition Ted. Here's a recent pick up of mine.

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw...ntnewsign1.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw...ntnewsign2.jpg

nice Tony
 

I've owned a few of these - yours looks to be in great shape and all original. I've always been surprised that these don't sell for more than they do. Thinking someday I might get another as like the spaghetti sauce - it's all in there.

Agreed. And this one has everything...
desirable advertising, high quality lithography and even an important historical figure.
There's nothing about this Piedmont sign that I don't love!
Great pick up Tony.

Happy to post this one. The colors are pretty amazing and I have not found another. 11 x 17. It's missing it's metal top and bottom borders but doesn't really matter much. I'd guess circa 1888. Gotta love the copy; so literal.

Thanks for looking. -peter

1911 Ty & Jake Ide Silver Collars (closed & open style, 2 for 25 cents).

Old Gold Cigarettes ad with the BABE 1928

A couple larger Yum Yum Tobacco advertising pieces. Exquisite!!

I'll have these framed up nicely.

(T206 card & pack shown just to give you an idea of overall size)

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw...ge/yumyum1.jpg

Nice lithography on those, Tony. They look great.
Here is a cigar box I picked up quite some time back but don't think I had shown it. Not sure as this thread has taken on a life of its own.

did someone say
 

Big Run?? Salesman sample label.

1962 Jello
 

I picked this up many years ago. It has printer marks on the edges which might indicate it is a proof of some kind.

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

4 1/2" x 5 3/4" Cigarette compact


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...actOLDGOLD.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tOLDGOLDbk.jpg




Compact open....and it's empty....all 50 cigarettes went up in smoke :)

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...LDGOLDopen.jpg




TED Z

T206 Reference
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Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

I not aware of any premium inserts associated with this brand which would have been issued circa 1887-1888.
It's a pretty pack, however.
Perhaps some 19th Century expert on this forum may chime in here with some information.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...sCameoPack.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...ameoPackBk.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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Wagner
 

Glad to add this

Ted - non-sports cards would have been issued with Dukes Cameo(such as the F62s). Duke manufactured the brand for a while. I believe your pack dates to 1892, so definitely an early one.

https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...013501E18.jpeg
https://photos.imageevent.com/rucker...ize/trays1.jpg

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

Hi Jon

Thanks for the info on the Duke's CameO pack.

I was thinking it might contain non-sports cards circa 1887 - 1889, since the pack has a July 20, 1886 Patent date on it. And, the slide inside this pack has a Sept 28, 1886
Patent date on it.

Can we arrive at any kind of conclusion(s) based on these dates ?


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Ted,

Duke's Cameo brand went from paper pack to slide and shell box in 1886 and would retain many of the dates you mention on the pack for decades. The date that really matters is the tax stamp over-print. Your tax stamp overprint appears to be either 1892 or 1893.

Another strong clue that quickly dates your pack to 1890s (or later) is the appearance of "ATC" or "American Tobacco Company". Most Duke, A&G, Kinney, Kimball, and Goodwin packs were updated upon the merger in early 1890 to reference ATC. Your pack is post merger. I have several pre-merger Cameo packs, here are a few from 1889. You can see several changes that occurred between June 1889 and August 1889. I've circled the overprints (June, August, & October of 1889) to better clue you into what you should be looking for on your pack.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=26940

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=26939

And a re-post from the April Pick-Up thread; this thread provides a better home for the pic. The cigar box is a beauty, dedicated to the Detroit Wolverines with numerous references to baseball and the Detroit Base Ball Club (DBBC) including the team picture. It serves as a storage box for some of my favorite Goodwin & SF Hess packs.

sweet little box
 

of candy Joey boy!

Looks great Joe!

Ted - I don’t really have anything else to add that Joe didn’t cover already. I was referring to the overprint on your box for dating. It’s still a great early one!

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

Joe and Jon

Thanks for all you info regarding this Tobacco brand. I'm glad I posted this pack. For you guys are amazing with your knowledge of this stuff.

Hope to see you both at the National this Summer.


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Old Mill Sign being sold by Probstein123 on ebay. Legit?
 

This Old Mill sign can't be legit, can it? It's on ebay by Probstein123 for $5,000. Here is the link:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Ori...ty!95132!US!-1

Nope

That was my first thought, too. For sure the backs of those 2 cards aren't from original cards, and the "open here" spaces are VERY fishy. If it's that obvious, how can a bigger consignment place (I'm assuming the sign is a consignment) with lots of feedback get away with that?

Also note that the Old Mill advertisement is printed, but the text referencing baseball picture cards is hand-written. Too coincidental in my opinion.

well
 

I think that the sign and "boxes" on either side are real just not the "base ball picture cards" verbiage..….. I have either seen this frankenmonster before or something very similar.

no guarantees whether written or implied

maybe the same guy
 

who did the fake Old Judge piece with the fake cards.....

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...e/coupont3.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...e/T3bk1x76.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...Doolan25xB.jpg


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...dKleinowNY.jpg . http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...3Doolan25x.jpg


TED Z

T206 Reference
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Tuxedo
 

Just won this yesterday

Sweet Caporal piece
 

I found this item in Bisbee, AZ. It is a door off a display case that was in the E.B. Wallace Smoke Shop and Pool Hall located on Main St. in Bisbee from 1910 to 1979.

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Risque Polar Bear Poem
 

Hi Fellas!

scored this neat little Polar Bear ad card.

TTYL!

Cliff

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Recently uncovered in a little hole in the wall antique store while vacationing with the wife.

Well weathered with character. I couldn't resist!

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw.../large/sc6.jpg

Very sweet pick-up, Tony! Nice. Thanks for sharing your find. ---Brian Powell

Camels
 

Not mine, but I thought it was worth a post.

Nice find Tony!

Picked this up at an antique store near the Jersey Shore after eyeing it for three years. My fiancee bought it for me as an early wedding present after she told me I was never getting it (for the 1,000th time, lmao).https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...4972ba66f1.jpghttps://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/201...265310c553.jpg

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well
 

it looks like you hung your giant Piedmont in the same place I had mine. Difference is my wife was looking to move it OUT - not in. You should keep yours (sign AND future missus) :-)

edited to ask: Any way you could share what was paid? I sort of track this kind of stuff. If not I understand......

Tony- love that vintage Sweet Caporal sign, good find!

I wanna say she paid around $350. I know she got the price down about $75-$100 from his original asking price. Yeah, she's a keeper. She tolerates all this "junk" of mine and lets me have the basement all to my collection. She even pretends to be interested in it sometimes, lol.

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Thanks for the kudos everyone. Another one just in!

It's a monster. Measures nearly 30" wide x 40" tall. Made of thick cardboard.

I believe it's circa (early 1930's)

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw...echnut%201.jpg

Beech Nut
 

What a great piece Tony! Where did you come by it? I have never seen it before either.

Hi Bob. Good to hear from you and thank you. It was an Ebay find. I'd not seen this one before now either. It sorta reminds me of the famous Dean brothers Beech-Nut display and is about the same size as that one.

Dean Bros sign below not mine, simply shown for reference :)

http://photos.imageevent.com/threetw...e/deanbros.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EA-mBe8WsAMz4uA?format=jpg

Bought at the National for $20 from John Rumierz, this ad card for 1950 WWG "Big League Stars" set of International Leaguers.

Given its postcard size, I think it's the front window display insert for vending machines that held the V362 Big League Stars set and sold individual cards for 1c each, much like Exhibit Company machines. It's labeled as a joint production of Cramer Gum (East Boston USA) and World Wide Gum (Granby, Ontario CA), implying Big League Stars set distribution on both sides of the border.

T227
 

Picked up a random pack for old times sake...

Pretty excited to add this to my cigarette pack collection. It's the first "soft" wrapper I've come across in person or had the opportunity to purchase (I have a scan of an old one, and this is the only other one I've ever seen). I have a 10-count period slide and shell Coupon box in my collection already, however there is some speculation that the cards may have been packaged in these soft packs which could explain in part why they are more flimsy than other cards.

great pack
 

and interesting theory but I would doubt that the cards were ever in such a pack. Of course - I defer to your wider range of knowledge about cigarette packages and cards. What is there that suggests the relationship other than the lighter card stock?

I would have thought a more sturdy card might come in a flimsier pack? Maybe the -3 series?

Wonderful pack, btw, Jon

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It’s a good question guys. When I first got into collecting packs,
One theory was that the stiffer cardboard tore the packs more easily, so they used a thinner stock. Doubt we’ll ever know. When I came across a 10-count slide and shell that dated to the 1910s, I felt pretty comfortable it was a proper pack, but I always wanted to add the soft pack, too, in case the theory ever holds true.

Rodeo Meats Cardboard Sign
 

Picked up this colorful Rodeo Meats cardboard sign recently. Although it doesn’t make reference to the Rodeo cards of 1955-66, it’s still neat. 21”x11”.

Joe, thanks for posting your Rodeo hot dogs placard. Beautiful. I love the 1955-56 Rodeo Meats Kansas City A's cards, and devoted a chapter to the 1955 promotion in my book on immediate post-war regional-food issues. That's a diabolically tough set to complete, back in the day, and to this day. The whole KC area was very proud of their A's, and the hot dog company went all-out to give their fans a terrific trading card set promote them.

Again, thanks for posting your new piece; it's a beauty! --- Brian Powell

Rodeo Meats Sign
 

Thanks, Brian. I thought it was pretty cool, as well.

Show your Tobacco, Candy, Gum, Bread, etc. advertisement pieces
 

At the National last month, I picked up this Egyptienne Cigarettes Advertisement (13 1/2" x 10" poster).


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...tienneAdvX.jpghttp://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...enneAdvRTx.jpg



I'm including an Egyptienne Cigarette pack to accent this post....and, a B18 flannel. The B18 flannels were issued wrapped
around some of these Cigarette packs....here we have Casey Stengel.


http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...garettes50.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...yStengel50.jpg

http://photos.imageevent.com/tedzan7...CigpackB50.jpg



TED Z

T206 Reference
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A sample of some recent cigarette pack pickups (most coming from a couple REA lots).

I'll start with an early OJ pack. This is the earliest 10 count pack I've found, dating to June of 1887. I'm aware of five earlier 20 count packs which seem to be far more common in 1887 but then become scarce/non-existent afterwards. The 10 count packs became far more common for Goodwin and others by 1888. This pack likely contained a baseball card. Would love to hear of other early OJ packs.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27407

Here is the latest Dogs Head pack I've seen, July of 1890. This pack would be post ATC merger and likely issued after Old Judge cards ceased to be inserted in packs. It us far more common to find a Dogs Head pack from mid-to-late 1889 . . . and likely more desirable as they contained baseball cards. I have several DH packs from 1889, this being a rather uncommon later pack issue.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27408

While A&G Straight Cut Number 1 packs are not the most difficult, it is rare to find one issued during the couple month period that N29 cards were issued. Here is a September 10th 1889 pack which is right in the middle of N29 production. This pack is missing the top flap and has writing on front and a side suggesting it was used to hold "easy stamps" for an early stamp collector. The pack otherwise presents nicely with a complete stamp and overprint which can be tough on A&G packs as they would fold the tax stamp across slide & shell.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27438

Then a couple rare packs that don't have direct connection to baseball cards but would have featured some non-sport cards, competing for the smoker's attention.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27439

The last pack was unknown to me before it was listed, Kimball's Japanese Perfumed Cigarettes. This brand was introduced by Kimball in mid 1887? and didn't last very long. On the front of the pack, reading from right-to-left, it states "Japanese Perfumed Cigarettes" in one circle and "Kimball & Co. Rochester N.Y." in another.

http://www.net54baseball.com/picture...ictureid=27406

Something different for the office

https://i.imgur.com/3Gt805Z.jpg?1

9 newspaper ads for Old Mill showing T206 that ran in May-Aug 1910 in SC.

Sure Shot
 

This is was originally a trifold but the middle piece looks good as a stand-alone piece.

Great lithography on that one, Bob. Nice pick up.

Here is a hopefully legitimate shaving mug put out by Ratsch Peerless...c 1895-1919 so the description said.

Wow Bryan, nice pickup!

Leon
 

moustache cup and not shaving mug I believe..... Got pix of the bottom? What is the association to Ratsch - provenance?