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Old 08-15-2007, 08:12 AM
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Posted By: Ralph

I just thought that there are many on here interested in the T-210 card set that I would list the toughies.I found this set rather easy to assemble as my first lot I bought had 125 cards & it included a Joe Jackson along with 124 others at $5.00 a pop & the Jackson at $125.00 & in Exellent ++ condition.Now the Jackson card has not only become a much higher priced card it is very scarce & I would add it as a difficult find.Before I start reeling off the toughies let me add that I have been reading a lot of replies indicating the condition of these cards.It is a very condition sensitive set just like the Baseball Mayo & I believe the 1971 Topps Baseball had a black border & these card's chip easily.The overall condition of my set was better than Exellent as I had numerous cards from series 6,7 & 8 that in some cases the cards were perfect as in no chips ,creases & very sharp corners.So where are these kinds of cards now?In private hands by people who won't sell them.I know of some friends that have 30 of the T-210 cards all in great shape & they tried getting just a few cards from each series & where do you suppose those cards are in their home?Their hanging on their living room wall in a frame & they look beautiful.I too have had the pleasures of finding cards in odd places & have heard true stories as to them being found behind the walls of older homes & in pristine condition for not seeing the light of day.Now that I have rambled on enough here is the T-210 breakdown.

The Most Difficult:
Burnett-Montgomery Series 8
Hart-Montgomery Series 8
Cantwell-Fayetteville Series 7(Very,Very Difficult)
Dwyer-Fayetteville Series 7 (very ,Very Difficult)
Hyames-Wilmington Series 7 (lots of luck on this card**)
Smith-Atlanta Series 8
Whitaker-Richmond Series 6
Doster-New Orleans Series 8
Kelly-Mascot-Goldsboro Series 7(The sweetest looking card in the entire set)
McLaurin-Chattanooga series 8
Gisler-Maysville Series 6
Robertson-New Orleans series 8
Van Landingham-Shelbyville series 6
Drumm-Greenville Series 5
Merchant-Goldsboro Series 7

Semi-Difficult:
Jackson-New Orleans Series 8(Not for myself,but in todays collecting field)
Stengel-Maysville Series 6(Same notation as for Jackson card)
Yeager-Winchester Series 6
Paris-Scheneberg Portrait series 6
Ham-Raleigh Series 7
Goostree-Winchester Series 6 (Hands behind back)
Goostree-Winchester serirs 6 (Leaning on bat)
Rogers-Atlanta Series 8
Gunderson-Goldsboro Series 7
Cooper-Wilson Series 7

Believe IT OR NOT'S
Smith-Lynchburg-(Batting) Series 2
Erlewein-Charleston Series 4
Waymack-Richmond Series 2
Schwietzka-Columbia Series 1
Wysong-Greenville series 5

The Hyames card is a very unique card & the card is very desireable.I would like to add my opinion that I believe more T-210 cards will pop-up from this team.There you have it.This is a breakdown of the cards that gave me the most difficulties,remember these are the cards that I thought I would never find but in time they popped up.The Smith-Lynchburg Batting card was one of the last ones I needed & that card today is quite plentiful. I hope you all find this useful & while I am thinking about it why don't some of you guys post any from these I have listed as I would love to see the little red trinkets that I once owned(Foolishly sold).If anyone would like more info as to other cards they have on their wantlist I would be happy to respond & help you as to the best of my ability.Also want to say good luck completing the set if your going for it as it is not impossible but I will add that when I did it I had no use of the PC but you know what,I had no one to outbid me etc... so with the computer being used it limits ones chances on completing the set.Just my two cents.Hope this helps & enjoy your day.


Want to add that Prim-Raleigh was added to checklist in 1984.

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Old 08-15-2007, 03:12 PM
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Posted By: scott brockelman

I never completed the set, but got to about 550 and had almost all of the ones you listed. As any large set, if you polled the collectors truely trying to complete the set you would get several different answers as to the toughies as these were probably all printed in equal numbers. Over time and attrition of individual players some may seem more difficult to one collector and easy to another.

At any rate thanks for the input, perhaps others will post at to their experience.

Below are the cards I needed when I gave up.

Scott


series 3-billiard, gear, malloy, merritt, mills, pendleton, slaven, thebo.
series 4-carney, geary, kane, moye, o'connor, waldron, zurlage.
series 5-cashion, lave cross, f.b. derrick, jackson, johnston, kelly, mangum, wehrel.
series 6-barnett, beard, callahan, chapman, cornell(winchester), dailey, edington, elgin, ellis, goodman, goosetree(leaning on bat), harold, hicks, kuhlman, mulvain, moloney, ross, scheneberg(fielding),
tinford, yancey.
series 7-biel, brandt, brown, cantwell, carrol, crockett, evans, galvin, handibe, macdonald, malcolm, mayer, merchant, morgan, noval, o'halloran, richardson, sharp, sherrill.
series 8- allen(memphis), bauer, bay, berger, brooks, burnett, carson, cohen, collins, crandall, cross, davis, demaree, e. demontreville, dudley, elliott, farrell, fisher, fleharty, foster, fritz, jackson, kelly, keupper, laftitte, larsen, manuel, marcun, maxwell, mcbride, mclaurin, miller(chatt), miller(mont.), newton, owen, paige, patterson, peters, pratt, rhodes, schlitzer, thomas(portrait), wagner(birm.), wagner(mobile), walker, welf, whitney, wilder, yerkes.

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Agree with you Scott but it also depends on the certain era here.What years did you start?If you had Cantwell-Fayetteville then you had one tough card.I made the list just to give some of the collectors on here a chance to see the cards that are indeed more difficult than others.But it depends on the year you started.I am not saying your wrong Scott but I just think that now with the use of the computer these cards are going to give collectors fits.If you collected them back before the PC you would find these cards a bit easier but now it is going to be very challenging for them today.Also was wondering on the T-209 Type II's if you could let me know how many different cards your checklist shows.I have counted 226 I ask this because if you collected the Contentnea B&W cards there may be a card you have or had that never got catalogued. Thanks for your reply.
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Posted By: judson hamlin

As someone who has a few 210's but hasn't really dug too far into the sets, what is it about the Hyames card that makes it so tough? Very short print, unique pose, something about the player? Thanks

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Posted By: Shawn Chambers

I second the above! I would like to see it and especially the coveted Kelly-Mascot. A card (apparently) so fabled and beautiful that not only did it inspire your login...I will probably wander the face of the earth seeking my own upon one glance at it's cardboard splendor!!

Waiting patiently,

Shawn

PS...thanks for all your insights in to your battle with the set. I now have 3 series 6s thanks to Frank Wakefield and Paul Stratton. Hoping to slowly add more and always pulling for Frank to find his two.

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Old 08-15-2007, 04:20 PM
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Posted By: Ralph

The Hyames card from what I have read from other T-210 collectors is a SP card.So with this card being short printed plus the fact that a lot of collectors collect only certain teams because of where they live makes this card a real tough card to locate. Now I would like to pose this question to you T-210 collectors,If there are new T-210 card additions which team do you think these additions will come from?

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Old 08-15-2007, 04:24 PM
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The Kelly-Mascot card is a card of a small boy no taller than 3 feet in height holding a bat 3 times his size & what makes the card so electrifying is the bat has a glimmer of blonde coloring to the huge bat.I'll keep ya posted if one comes my way

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Posted By: barrysloate

When Bill Goodwin offered a big collection a few years ago he pictured the mascot on the website. That was the first time I had ever seen it. I don't know if he keeps an online archive but if so, it's there (wish I could remember the date, but the collection sold for six figures and garnered quite a bit of discussion on the board).

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Posted By: robert a

Ralph,

Thanks for your informative post and for starting an interesting discussion.

By the way, the only cards I've had in my collection from your list are:

Waymack (2)
Drumm (5)

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Posted By: Ralph

That's great as those listed are the more difficult cards so your on a roll,congrats

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