Real or memorex ??

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Posted By: scott hassel

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-TY-COBB-Countertop-Candy-Display-Great-Shape_W0QQitemZ220069465427QQihZ012QQcategoryZ5013 3QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

1 I think it is real.

2 I'd like to illuminate it with a black light to feel better about authenticity.

3 A nickel seems like a lot of money for a kid to spend for candy around 1910 to 1915. I'd think mid 20s might be a better date. But I don't know. A nickel bought lots of stuff in in 1915... just read the back of a 1915 Cracker Jack and read what five nickels could buy. So I think his dating is optimistic.

Frank.

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Posted By: Joe Jones

PM1's are said to cost 19 cents each in 1915.

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Posted By: John S

The price on the display made me a little leary as well. A nickel should have bought a lot of candy at any time that Cobb was active. However, I believe that a tin of Colgan's sold for a nickel during the same era.

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Posted By: peter ullman

i'm a little concerned myself...I won this item...and it was somewhat of an impulse buy! It looks reaL TO me...never heard of ty cobb candy...but...i thought it looked interesting. I'll keep y'all posted when I receive it!

pete ullman in mn

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Posted By: Max Weder

I have seen a few of the smaller boxes (one over 20 years ago, one I believe at Lelands a couple of years ago) but I have not seen this display. That of course doesn't prove anything one way or the other (watching too much Ms. Paltrow and Mr. Hopkins on DVD this weekend.

Max

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Posted By: Trae R.

Peter, I think you may be in the clear as far as it being real. I found the Lelands link Max is referring to:
http://www.lelands.com/bid.aspx?lot=1246&auctionid=405

It unfortunately makes no mention of the time period though.

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Posted By: peter ullman

thanks trae...i'm feeling better by the minute!!!! It'd look pretty nice in your pool room?!?!?!

pete

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Posted By: steve f

was watching this as well. My main concern is the tan background being 'washed' off at the stain, but the text is unchanged... My old stained cards tend to show darker.

Seems like a nice enough seller and there is a refund. Good luck Pete it's very nice.

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Posted By: Dan Bretta

I was watching this as well...the seller seems to sell legitimate items. Oftentimes when you see these old baseball display items if you check the sellers other items for sale you will see other bogus items. This one looks good...especially when you consider the box that was in the Leland's auction. I would only worry if you see another one on ebay within the next few weeks.

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Posted By: E, Daniel

I think it's real, and an absolute scorcher of a piece.
Make an amazing accompanying piece to a cobb/cobb, not that I'm suggesting flipping it

Daniel

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Posted By: scott hassel

Peter I was the under bidder. I have seen the wrapper once back in 98'in a Superior auction. It was called their Heavy Hitter Auction. I remeber it clearly as one of my cards , Mayo Anson gradded PSA 7 was on the cover. Wish I hadn't have sold it way back then. The wrapper also had Cobb's picture on it and they said that was a one of a kind piece.The "opening bid" for the wrapper was $3500.00. My lose and your gain because if it is real my guess is the real value is equal to the wrapper or more.

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Posted By: Rhys

I am sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but these are fake. At least the 10-15 I have seen in the last 2 years, including the one I bought on ebay in July of 2005 are. It looked great to the naked eye and even after I received it in the mail I thought it was real. The work on it is so well done, especiallly the easels on the back, that it seems like it would be difficult to ever fake something like that. It was also shown to several other hobby experts as well (Including folks at Mastronet) who all came to the same conclusion, beautiful and well done counterfeit item. Like I said above as well, I have owned one (the first one I ever saw on ebay) and have seen at least another 10 like it since then. Of course there might be a real one out there, I would not take any chances on these given my past experience. To this day it is the ONLY fake item I could not spot on ebay and fell trap to.

Rhys

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Posted By: scott hassel

Well for once I'm glad I wasn't the bride. Sorry Peter. At least you can get your money back. Perfect fantasy piece. Folks if you see something like this before the close of an auction and you know its a fake. Let the rest of us know. PLEASE.

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Posted By: Dave G

In particular let the BIDDERS know

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Posted By: paulstratton

I've seen a few of these on ebay as well. I wanted to bid on the first one I saw and then I saw another one and another one...

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Posted By: peter ullman

from ELATION...to DEFLATION!!!!! As always...thanks guys for your opinions!

peter ullman

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Posted By: scott hassel

Once you hit 40 its all down hill anyway!

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Posted By: peter ullman

thanks scott...I've got 2 1/3 years to go!!!

pete ullman

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Posted By: E, Daniel

If it's true that these are fakes, yet another seller to avoid....

"I purchased this with a large lot of original sports sheet music and books which I know are legit."

Another seller hedging against the truth they know, but will not make plain.
Real shame.


Daniel

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Posted By: scott hassel

Thought you'd get a kick out of this:



Second Chance Offer from mintbid
Item: "Rare" TY COBB Countertop Candy Display....Great Shape
This message was sent after the listing closed.
mintbid is the seller.



Good news! The following eBay item on which you placed a bid for US $279.00 on Jan-14-07 15:15:51 PST is now available for purchase:

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Posted By: Max Weder

The Ty Cobb easel reminds me of the fake Lou Gehrig Ken Wel glove easel.

The Ty Cobb candy box does exist, and is vintage, but the easel backed pieces are more modern fakes.

Max

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Posted By: JK

Scott - that is interesting. Im curious to know if Peter informed the seller that he was not going to purchase the item or whether the second chance solicitation was a further attempt to scam bidders out of money.

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Posted By: scott hassel

Second Chance Offer

The seller, mintbid is making this Second Chance Offer because the high bidder was either unable to complete the transaction or the seller has a duplicate item for sale.

The selling of this item through Second Chance Offer is in compliance with eBay policy; you will be able to exchange Feedback with the seller and will be eligible for all eBay services associated with a transaction, such as fraud protection.

Act Now - This Offer Expires Soon

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Posted By: peter ullman

i informed the seller i planned to return the item so i asked him to just refund my payment and avoid the trouble. thanks again rhys!

pete in mn

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Posted By: joe

Rys is correct, reproduction. There are Ty Cobb candy wrappers and boxes out there that are real. About 7 years ago 2 showed up on ebay. They come with Cobb's picture and without.


Joe

Ty Cobb, Spikes flying!

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Posted By: dan mckee

Not real, these were faked well and surfaced in the Ohio, Michigan, Indiana areas along with the Tuxedo items and the 38 Goudey big head fake ad pieces.