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Old 05-10-2006, 04:56 PM
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Posted By: kathy

When cleaning my grandparent's basement we found a whole box of old pins. Some are baseball players. They are very small. I found some on ebay, but they are rated. How do I know what the ones we have are worth?

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Old 05-10-2006, 04:58 PM
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Posted By: Glenn

Can you post some pictures?

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Old 05-10-2006, 05:06 PM
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Posted By: Daniel Bretta

If you can't post pics can you list the names on the pins?

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Old 05-10-2006, 06:05 PM
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Posted By: andy becker

pins of baseball players have value. do the pins have paper on the backside? if they do and the paper is in good condition, the value increases.
scans would help. if you do not know how to post them, you can email me a scan and i will give you some answers.
i have a decent amount of experience with pins....
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edited to add, duh....i just looked at the title of the thread.
if they are sweet caporal pins, then they were issued as a tobacco insert....same as tobacco cards, just pins.
sweet caporal pins are designated in the baseball card catalog as p-2.

p-2's are all valuable and collectible. as i said before, if the paper back is intact and in good condition....then the value rises.
value will be determined by:
-the paper back
-the clearity of the front
-overall condition of the pin....rust, foxing, etc.

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Old 05-10-2006, 10:29 PM
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Posted By: dan bartenbaker

as an advanced collector of old,rare baseball pinbacks from 1896 to 1960 it baffles me why someone would place such importance on the backpaper of a pinback,when clearly the face of the pins condition as well as the centering are much more important.

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Posted By: robert a

I would place the most importance on the image, but I do enjoy when the paper is still there and in good shape.

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Posted By: kathy

I tried to take a picture of one with my digital camera, which is not top quality, and I must have to adjust the settings. There are about 50 of these little guys. Most have rust on the ring and some are missing the paper and the pin. I will try and list them all.
St. Louis Browns-La Porte
St. Louis Cardinals-Bresnahan (off center, rust on front)
Boston Rustlers-Herzog
Cleveland Naps-Lajoie
Washington Senators-Gray
Chicago Cubs-Schulte
Boston Rustlers-Herzog (Rust on front)
St. Louis Browns-La Porte (no pin)
Phila Phillies-Magee
New York Yankees-Chase
New York Giants-Merkle(rust on front)
Cincinnati Reds-Suggs (no paper)
Brooklyn Superbas-Erwin(no pin)
St. Louis Carinals-Evans (rust on front)
Chicago Cubs-Evers (quite rusty on front)
St. Louis Cardinals-Muggins(rust on front)
Pittsburgh Pirates-Leifield (rust on front)
Detroit Tigers-Mullin(extremely rusty on front)
Chicago Cubs-Chance
Phila Athletics-Collins(off center, rust on front0
New York Giants-Chief Meyers(off center)
St. Louis Cardinals-Phelps

There's more but I have to get going or I'll be late for work. I will try and list the rest tonight, our computer is having a crisis of some sort and sometimes doesn't function. So, forgive me if my answers are so delayed. Thank you for all your help!!! Kathy

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Posted By: andy becker

thanks for the list kathy.

from your note, it sounds like the pins are in lower grade.

rust, missing paper back, and missing pins will drop the condition grade.....to somewhere between poor and good.

they are still very collectible, just not worth nearly as much as pins without those defects.

dan, i agree that from a collector's standpoint the pins with a nice image and nice centering are more collectible....but as a collector, you must know that the backing does play a significant role in value....which was kathy's question.



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Old 05-11-2006, 08:23 AM
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Posted By: dan bartenbaker

i don't agree from a collectors standpoint,that the paper back adds or subtracts that much in value at all. with the exception of say the schmeltzer's and maybee the diamond gum pin sets. rather it should be considered an added bonus to have the back paper there and in good shape. i welcome any other opinions on this subject from advanced pinback button collectors. dan

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Posted By: Chris

Hi Dan,

I think you may have just agreed with Andy -- you're right, it is an added bonus, which I believe is why people are willing to pay a premium for pins with fully in tact backings.

In my opinion it comes down to wanting to own a card, pin, etc as close as possible to its original "as produced" condition.

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Chris

edit: I'll add that I'm by no means an advanced collector...

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