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Posted By: barrysloate

Twenty-five years ago today we lost John Lennon. To honor his memory, let's have no fighting or insults on the board for twenty-four hours. In other words, all I am saying is give peace a chance.

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Posted By: Hal Lewis

I remember John Lennon...

but who is this Babe Ruth guy?

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I was too young for Kennedy (technically, not born yet), but I remember Lennon's death vividly. I was on a camping trip in Yosemite with my 10th grade class. A few of my classmates went to town for provisions. They came back announcing the death. One of the girls in our class was a total Lennon groupie. She collapsed, lots of others were crying too, just a horrible day.

BTW, did anyone notice that yesterday was a day that will live in infamy, the day they awakened a sleeping giant and filled him with a terrible resolve?

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I remember Kennedy's death- I was out of school with a cold and I put the TV on after lunch and there was a bulletin and I knew right away something bad happened, and I heard about Lennon like many others from Howard Cosell on Monday Night Football (they've been playing that tape on the radio this morning). Adam, who is the sleeping giant that was awakened yesterday?

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That would be us.

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Pearl Harbor, barry.

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The end of Tora Tora Tora, right Adam?

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Posted By: Jay Miller

Barry--You remember John Lennon but you don't remember Pearl Harbor day--get your priorities straight.

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I also remember Kennedy. I was home sick playing tittly winks in the parlor and over heard a news flash from the living room that the President had been shot. I like millions of other Americans heard about Lennon from Howard Cosell. I remember thinking what could John Lennon have done so bad that someone would kill him? A few events in American history that we will always remember where we were.

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Posted By: Pennsylvania Ted

Adam W

You are going down a "treacherous road" on this Thread if I am under-
standing correctly the tone of your last comment.

Would you rather be "Sprechen sie Deutsche" or speaking some Japanese
dialect ?

I had an Uncle and four cousins who fought in WWII so that you and I
and millions of Americans can still speak our beloved American English
and enjoy the Freedom we have.

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Posted By: JudgeDred (Fred)

Barry,

I still get it...

Just "imagine" it Barry...

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Posted By: barrysloate

Sorry about the Pearl Harbor memory lapse- of course I knew it was the anniversary, but for some reason I thought Adam was referring to a person. My bad.

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Posted By: jay behrens

Barry, don't make me squash you like a bug like the beetle I killed this morning :-p

Jay

I've just reached Upper Lower Class. I am now officially a babe magnet for poor chicks.

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Posted By: warshawlaw

WTF are you talking about?? I was merely pointing out that yesterday was the anniversary of a world-shaping event by attempting to blend two very famous quotations about the day. The first part of the line I wrote references FDR's speech to the American people after the attack, the 2nd references a line that was attributed to the Japanese admiral who conceived of the attack when he learned that the attack had been launched prior to the declaration of war hence was a sneak attack. The actual line attributed to Japanese Admiral Isoroku Yamamoto on realizing that he had engaged in a dishonorable sneak attack is: "I fear all we have done is to awaken a sleeping giant and fill him with a terrible resolve." He never said it; the line was created for the movie Tora! Tora! Tora! The other common Yamamoto quote predicting the future outcome of an attack on the United States ("I can run wild for six months … after that, I have no expectation of success.") is real, and is something he is recorded to have said to a number of different Cabinet members in Japan in the 1940 time period.

My advice to you is to sit back, take ten deep breaths and think before posting again. You may avoid posting something ignorant, inflammatory and stupid.

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Posted By: Anonymous

Wait - You killed a beatle this morning? Please tell me it was Paul!

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Posted By: barry arnold

Barry's right.

Give peace a chance.

We can do it---at least on this board.

and maybe in our own microcosm.

and who knows what may happen......


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Posted By: Brian C Daniels

There are only 23 hours and 56 minutes in a day which is how we account for leap year! Can we have at least a 4 minute brawl somewhere on here?

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Posted By: barrysloate

I requested a 24 hour moratorium on brawling to honor John Lennon and they are brawling on this thread. John is turning in his grave as we speak.
To lighten things up, here's a riddle:

Q: Why did the rightfielder of the 86 Mets shag fly balls endlessly into the night?
A: Because Strawberry fields forever.

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Posted By: identify7

I agree with T-Rex. Lets wrongly accuse each other of imagined statements, then post inflammatory accusations. And see what happens.

It seems like more fun than tip toeing thru the tulips.

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Posted By: Alan

Leon needs to rename this board something else -- almost like the Vintage Baseball Card Argument board....

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Posted By: identify7

"Bickering between participants on the board is expected".

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Posted By: Bruce Babcock

I didn't even know that the Lennon sisters had a brother.

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Posted By: DJ

Folks, folks...let's be more of a fountain and less of a drain.

We should also celebrate the fact that John McGraw would be 115 today.

DJ

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

Adam

Now that you explained what you stated, I must admit that I misconstrued
your comments. However, you took two famous and separate quotes from two
famous (but opposing) men and ran them together. You didn't even enclose
their words with quotation marks. And, you should've ascribed each quote
to the person who said it. How do you expect the reader not to misconstrue
your comments.

You are the lawyer, I would expect clearer and concise language from you.
Anyway, please accept my apology.

T-Rex Ted

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Posted By: T206Collector

...on April 7, 1873, no?

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Posted By: DJ

Oh, you mean THAT John McGraw. I was talking about the John McGraw that played one game for the Brooklyn Tip-Tops in 1914.

DJ

Yes, I screwed up.

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Posted By: Cobby33

I think we should have the grading companies grade egos around here, but they should be subject to re-grades.

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Posted By: Alan Zimmerman

I'm just pissed that the guy missed Yoko.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Yoko Ono may not be your favorite artist, nor is she mine for that matter, but isn't wishing she also got shot a tad harsh? You might want to rethink that comment.

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Posted By: William Heitman

I endured this news coming out of Howard Cossell's mouth on Monday Night Football.

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Posted By: Alan Zimmerman

i thought about it. i want to rephrase my answer: I am pissed he hit John, I would rather he'd hit Yoko.

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Posted By: DJ

Oh yeah, that's much better.

Anyone miss Adam?

DJ

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Posted By: Alan Zimmerman

of course i would rather he hit neither, but, if given the choice between having chapman hit john or yoko, i would rather he hit yoko. on a related note, you may want to consider my bias in the fact that i once wrote a screenplay called "killing yoko ono", about a one time use only time machine, and what the owner would do with it if given the choice.

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Posted By: David McDonald

Time travel was discussed in a recent thread. Most guys would have chased CJ's and T-cards and the like. I would have taken in a few ballgames and asked Rita Hayworth for a date. I don't recall anyone wanting to kill anybody.

http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1129075973/If+you+could+travel+back+in+time>...

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Posted By: Brian Daniels

Barry, didn't Jack Lennon die only a few years ago?

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Posted By: Anonymous

Here I stand... head in hand
Turn my face to the wall
If she's gone.. I can't go on
... Feeling two foot tall

...Everywhere people stare
Each and every day
...I can see them laugh at me
..And I hear them say

HEY..!! you've got to hide your love away
HEY..!! you've got to hide your love away

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Posted By: barrysloate

Gee- when I started this thread it was done from the heart and I truly wanted one day of no fighting on the board, which obviously didn't work since a skirmish broke out on this very thread anyway. And "Anonymous", if you think I started the most ridiculous thread ever, I would appreciate it if you post your full name. I think it's board rules that you can't make such a comment unless you identify yourself. Thank you. Sincerely, Barry Sloate

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Posted By: leon

Sorry, I deleted that anonymous person's post as per the board rules, so your comment to him might look out of place now. Suffice it to say if that person wants to re-post with his full name it can stay....again, as per board rules. I think this is a good thread, myself....At least it had/has good intent....best regards

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Posted By: Anonymous

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl,
but she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
but she changes from day to day

I want to tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a bellyful of wine
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeh,
someday I'm going to make her mine.

One of my favorites.
For extra credit, reason for the song?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Hey Leon- you can leave it as is, the thread is kind of played out. I just thought he could be a little more courteous to me.

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Posted By: Jack Richards

I'm the one who posted the "Anonymous" entry that was deleted because it violated the board's rules. I have only posted once before, and I am not as familiar as I should be with the board's requirements. Sorry about that.

I wasn't trying to hide my identity. To tell you the truth, I wasn't sure how to enter my name along with my comment. I've since figured it out (as you know, it's not terribly difficult).

As background, I had posted in response to an entry quoting the Beatles classic, "Here I stand... head in hand...Turn my face to the wall..." It's a great song, and I commented that it was the perfect ending to what was perhaps the most "ridiculous" thread ever. I urged everyone to "Let it be" (which, of course, is also a Beatles quote).

I made the "ridiculous" remark because Barry Sloate had started a thread calling for a truce on the board in recognition of the anniversary of John Lennon's murder, yet his suggestion generated a lengthy, angry exchange (including, for instance, whether it would have been better if Yoko Ono had been shot).

This, to me, was "ridiculous." In retrospect, maybe I should have said that it was "ironic."

I did not intend to be disrepectful to Mr. Sloate. Quite to the contrary. I share his interest in honoring John Lennon's memory, and I thought he had a great suggestion to that end. Unfortunately, it didn't happen. I apologize to him for the misunderstanding, which was my fault.

So, in the spirit of both John Lennon and the Holidays, can we put this behind us?

A Happy Holiday to all, and to all a good night!!!

Thank You.



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Posted By: barrysloate

Thanks Jack, and welcome to the board. No hard feelings, and I agree with you that even in the spirit of John's memory some awfully unkind things were said on this thread.
As a regular poster, I'm used to it. Happy holidays to you and to all my friends on network54. Barry

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Posted By: Cat

Barry:

Just thought Jim should get equal billing. Yours truly visting with Jim (Happy Birthday: 12/8/1943)/

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Posted By: Alan Zimmerman

now jim morrison, his name i wont tarnish.

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Posted By: Julie Vognar

Knighthood.

Leon: you really thinbk this is a good thread, huh?


edited by leon to say...it doesn't matter if I think it's a good thread or not, most of the times....do you think every thread is good?

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Posted By: barrysloate

Morrison's gravestone is a pretty popular shrine- people visit it regularly. Was fortunate to see the Doors twice- including once at the Fillmore East when it was still called the Village Theatre. Had to leave early though- don't ask, long story.

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