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Old 02-01-2004, 08:16 PM
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I have a bunch of Joe Merkle,first generation holder SGC cards and was wondering the consensus on how to treat these. yes, I realize I could keep them this way for protection purposes but the money concerns for the future are an issue.....thanks

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Old 02-01-2004, 08:30 PM
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Brian,

You submitted all (or at least a vast majority) of these cards yourself. Given this reality, what exactly is the nature of your concern?

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Old 02-01-2004, 08:45 PM
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I think the concern is that there is a perception, and possibly reality, that older SGC graded cards were done more leniently, as were PSA cards. From my short experience it is a warranted concern. I had one of my high end cards crossed over into a new holder and it came back the same as the old holder. I am sure that is not always the case and is not a given. If re-submitted I am fairly sure SGC would grade them by todays standards and they may or may not hold up. My recommendation, for what it's worth, would be to only resubmit the cards you really think would hold up to todays standards....otherwise, I would leave them in the old ones.....that's just me though....good luck...and thanks for the nudging (BCD) to get that one reholdered.....I am glad I did....

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Old 02-01-2004, 09:37 PM
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I understand what you are saying but BcD writes that "money concerns for the future are an issue."

Basically, his cards are the same grade now as they were when he first submitted them. To suggest that a lower grade might adversely impact him financially is to imply that he purchased many of the cards in an already encapsulated state and paid SUBSTANTIAL sums of money based on each grade. Correct me if I am wrong, but unlike your example where the card was purchased in an SGC holder, the cards that BcD refers to have a completely different origin.

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long term, regardless of the actual appeal ( ungraded appraisal),because this is now become my "401k", would it be best to have them reslabbed even if a lower grade is assigned to induce desireability upon offering them for sale?

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I would not do anything about reholdering at this point. The cards are either accurately graded or they are not. Grading standards change slightly from time to time. If you are not planning on selling the cards and they really are your 401K then just sit on them. No need putting more money into reholdering right now. Reassess at the time that you need to liquidate.

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I've got many "old school" SGC holders and I have no intention of reholdering them unless the holders are damaged. The cards, you see, are really nice and will stay nice. An ignorant buyer will buy the grade on the holder, while a knowledgeable buyer will evaluate the cards and purchase accordingly. I feel that the risk of damage to the cards from reholdering outweighs any possible value added from reholdering.

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I think that if you are looking to sell the cards you would be more likely to receive top dollar for cards if SGC would reholder the cards (without regrading them) in the modern holders. This is because many people consider the holder when buying a card and a newer holder suggests that the grade was received under a more difficult grading standard.


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