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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Halleygator
http://www.mastronet.com/index.cfm?action=DisplayContent&ContentName=Lot%20Information&LotIndex=31948&CurrentRow=1 |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Brian Hodes
Really it seems like it belongs in the Hall of Fame to me. There are several other items that I believe belong with me .... |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: julie
But is it real, or is it... |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Hankron
Julie, you should buy the lot and have a dutch auction on eBay. "Divorced the husband. Trophy balls must go." |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Jay Miller
The funny thing is that there is already an ammendment to the lot description which states that the case may not be period. I've already heard rumblings through the grapevine that if the case is not period then the balls may not be period either. Seems like alot of money to bid on an item with some questions associated with it. Then again, that never stopped bidders on the PSA8 Wagner. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Halleygator
This thing really does belong in the Hall of Fame. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Rich Klein
a FOR-PROFIT organization run by the Clark family that has made a living for years on creating an impression that they are only doing this for the continuing good of baseball preservation. (No, I'm not bitter in any way) |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: runscott
I guess the description says it all: "It is almost inconceivable that this case, with all of the balls still beautifully preserved in their near pristine state, has remained hidden from the public's eye for all these many years." |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: runscott
I won an item from Mastro two years ago, and received a paper trail of associated provenance (without asking). So I'm guessing the winner of the 1869 Red Stockings Trophy will get the same sort of thing (signed letters indicating who owned it, for how long, etc.) |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Jay Miller
Scott---What I have heard is that a potential bidder/bidders had the cabinet looked at by experts who indicated that there were doubts as to whether it was period. The more I look at that cabinet the more I believe it looks like the top of a grandfather clock. I have a grandfather clock at home that has a removeable top piece that is very close in appearance to that cabinet. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: PSAKID
I don't care who wins this item as long as it's not one of the major card companies who will proceed to cut it up into tiny pieces for their soon to be worthless insert cards. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
agree on HOF pony'ing up........the Halper wing was bought by MLB for about $5M if I remember correctly and then placed into the HOF. I've heard that the HOF takes interest in some of these items but I'm sure their funds are somewhat limited as well. This might be one of those items that they 'unbuckle' on though given the purported historical value. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Jay Miller
I still have not seen an answer to the question of how a trophy ball is authenticated. Does anyone know the answer or with a little paint and an old cricket ball could I make one of these? Oh yah---I need a rusty nail too. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Brian H
While the HOF may only have a limited amount of cash on hand, the HOF has a collection that is worth untold millions. Sure some of the big items could never be sold but I bet some significant percentage of the stuff (think of all of the bats and balls alone !) is not restricted and could theoretically be sold if the HOF wanted to generate some cash for purchases such as this trophy (assuming, of course, that it is legit). |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: runscott
You need a paper trail that stops at all previous owners, hopefully leading back to a family member of one of the ball players. There have been a number of baseballs in auctions that I wanted, but the provenance wasn't there - I was especially interested in some pre-wwI "no-hitter" balls. There were always great stories that went along with them, but they were also exactly the stories a scammer would have created. "right-fielder caught the ball for the final out, everyone mobbed the pitcher, presented the ball to him after the game and it's been with the family ever since." Heck, the right-fielder could have kept the real ball and sub'd a practice ball! Or a child could have used the ball for a pick-up game (this has really happened) and then his brother found a replacement before mom and dad got home. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: Tom Boblitt
compete with the bidding of Kennett, who purchased the souvenirs. They were later destroyed in a fire at his home. But one reminder of the glorious story escaped. |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: petecld
Maybe I'm asking too much here but shouldn't someone at Mastro have done this kind of research BEFORE they offered this item? |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: petecld
Sorry, I know David is the only one who is supposed to respond to their own posts but I forgot something. . . |
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Holy Smokes!!! $400,000+ for one item??
Posted By: runscott
The five missing balls from the Eastern tour were supposedly mounted along the top of the trophy case, and were probably the ones from the Eastern tour that aren't currently in the case, per Mastro: |
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