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Old 09-21-2001, 01:17 PM
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Posted By: John

This is more of a hypothetical question,and with the new hall of fame voting rules next year,its more of a longshot than in the past,but if Bill Dahlen made the hall of fame,and he has pretty good numbers for his era,2400+ hits,1594 runs,1200+ rbi's,587 stolen bases,and he was a shortstop...assume he made it,what do you think that would do to the value of his t206 brooklyn variation card?in the 2 price guide i have this card is about 6x the value of commons,i dont know if this would translate to 6x the value of "common" hall of famers?....can anyone think of a similar case happening recently,maybe with george davis,vic willis?...i know with bid mcphee,not too many people thought of him as a possible HOF'er and when he made it his old judge cards skyrocketed,though i know the dahlen/brooklyn isnt as rare as them...i'd like to hear what people think? John

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Old 09-21-2001, 10:45 PM
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My thoughts are that similar to rare backs like Uzit and Drum there are multiples paid for the rarity vs. a premium paid for the HOF status. In other words the Dahlen card would naturally go for more since it is rare; but although a premium could be demanded for the HOF status it would not be a multiple like it currently demands as a common. That sounds confusing. Example. Dahlen currently may sell for $200 vs. a normal common that sells for $30 in the same condition. If he reaches HOF status I think it could demand $300 to $400; but not a 6x multiple of a less scarce HOFer.

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Old 09-22-2001, 12:14 AM
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Posted By: Doug Allen

It actually comes with many different backs. They are as follows:
American Beauty, 350 subjects (with frame line)
Broad Leaf, 350 subjects
Carolina Brights
Cycle, 350 subjects
Drum
El Principe De Gales
Old Mill
Piedmont, 350 subjects
Polar Bear
Sovereign, 350 subjects
Sweet Caporal, 350 subjects, factory 25
Sweet Caporal, 350 subjects, factory 30
Tolstoi

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Old 09-22-2001, 11:30 AM
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thanks Doug....by the way,do you(or anyone else) know which brand backs the dahlen/brooklyn comes with? ....i think mine is piedmont,might be sweet cap,but i dont have it in front of me....thanks,John

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Old 09-22-2001, 08:28 PM
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In my experience, a vintage player getting elected to the Hall of Fame causes a very very minor bump in prices. There are some collectors who only collect Hall of Fame players, thus increasing demand slightly.

Even with autographs, Hall of Fame status doesn't seem to confer much change in price. A player's stats seem to dictate how their career is viewed, and thus the demand side in autographs. For example, the only time that a player's autograph shows a huge increase in value with a Hall of Fame election is when the supply of signatures is very low (i.e. died young), or when it was not an expected election (like an umpire). Most turn-of-the-century stars have their "Hall of Fame electability" factored into the price. As a modern example, the prices of Nelson Fox's signatures have changed only slightly after his election, even though he has been deceased. His signature has always been at a premium due to the expectation he would be elected one day.

Cards work in much of the same way. It is only the type collectors (HOF players only) that really affect the demand-side of the price.

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Old 09-22-2001, 09:16 PM
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In the past few weeks (2) Vic Willis cards in Exmt or better condition sold for over $300 on eBay and low grade examples with creases sold for around $50. This is a lot more than commons sell for. Even though his cards sold for more than typical commons before he was elected they never sold for that much money.

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