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3 or 7?
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I'll go with
#5 as the winner and #6 a close runner up
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I'd say #7 is most deserving of the O/C.
By the way, I still have 4 of those 69 Clementes that I pulled from packs as a kid, and the centering on all of them look like yours. Last edited by Gorditadogg; 10-03-2022 at 09:11 PM. |
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Anyone else wanna chime in?
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(Un)lucky number six, come on down...
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Nobody got it correct. That's amazing.
I wonder if you gave that test to PSA graders how many would get it right. Seems pretty random, doesn't it? Sent from my SM-S906U using Tapatalk |
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grading sucks
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Grading is really great IMO for vintage grades 1 through 5 for giving a decent opinion of the serious flaws of a card. Once the grades get above 7, it really gets hard to tell the difference between most cards if the centering is similar. I use CSG to grade my vintage player runs these days for $10.80 a card. They grade similar to BVG, well exactly like BVG since Andy Broome is in charge, but the holders are really nice. I have realistic expectations with grading and buying graded cards. I think the biggest issue are the people new to vintage who trust PSA's grade as the truth and are buying the number on the slab and not the card inside.
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Let's call today's episode Aaron't You Glad You Bought Me???...
(These cards were randomly placed in two rows, so there is no underlying rhyme or reason to the layout. As always...no cheating!!) This time, it's really about showing how the desire to get straight grades (versus ones with qualifiers) could cost you big-time. Presented here are six 1976 Topps #550 Hank Aaron cards. They are all very similar to each other with the obligatory slight tilt of the picture, coupled with at least one edge getting pretty close to tickling a side. Top-to-bottom centering differs a bit across the group. Each and every one of them has been graded a straight PSA 8, except for one - and only one - that is a PSA 9 OC. Here's the math: three of the PSA 8s sold for $255 apiece, one was $240 and the other $270, for an average of $255. I happily jumped on the career-capping PSA 9 OC Aaron for a C-note, $100. Think about that. For cards that look comparably identical, one of them cost a mere 39% of the price of the others, because(?) of the 'dreaded' OC qualifier. Given what you now know, which one of these guys deserves to be priced so cheaply when compared to the others, and why? 1976aaron550a.jpg
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I’ll say #4 due to the tilt.
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I feel this way pretty often. But it's more a case of realizing what grading is and is not, and then being ok with that. For too many collectors it seems - grading is the end all, be all pronouncement of value on their card. Oh no, this nice vintage card only got a 3 - and I thought it was a 5 all day long. For those of us who have been grading informally for decades now, it's pretty much a joke when you realize that the grader's opinion is kind of like your opinion in that it could be X one day and Y the next. Clearly, even PSA doesn't really consider their flip and slab to be anything super final. If they did, then why do they encourage (and take piles of cash for...) so many resubs?
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Grading has become far more than it was ever really intended to be. The problem in the early 1990's was with fake cards, and altered cards that novice collectors could not recognize. Grading at least in the short term was a standard that helped with that. I don't think any hobbyists back then though ever would have said that grading should eventually become an excuse for us all to become less knowledgeable, to become more reliant upon them, and to no longer bother to be able to tell the difference in an EX and a VG card anymore. Especially for some newer collectors, it seems that is what it has become.
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And 'twas number 2 that got Hammered (get it?)...
1976aaron550b.jpg So, think about this for a second. The card is nearly identical to the others in the slight tilt arena, but the white thickness on its 'big and bad' side is much less egregious than most of the others, plus it is numerically in better shape (a PSA 9 compared to PSA 8s), so it is a superior card...but the qualifier alone overruled all of that and made it extremely less valuable than its compatriots. (Yes, I understand this is in no way a perfect example of comparison, but it hits the point pretty nicely.)
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I wonder if anyone will ever guess right?
Might fair better on the guessing without actually looking at the cards, as there seems to be no rhyme or reason to the grading. |
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I would prefer #3. Centering is as good as any and it has the most total border top and bottom. #2 is close and cheaper, but I would probably pay up for #3.
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I would purchase #6, not because it's the best one. Numbers one and five have print marks that I would try to avoid. I compared number two to number six and the registration is better in the latter. Number seven has those print bubbles, which for me wouldn't be worth that price. I really liked number three the most, but due to limited funds (look at my 53 Bowmans) I have to compromise, which is why number 6 would be the card that would end up in my collection.
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I would also pick 6 from this list, but in real life I would like a raw one in the $30 range.
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#6.
That one has the best focus. #7 is the nicest of all of them of course, but not for 3x the price of #6. |
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#6. Good color and focus, Off centered top to bottom, but that has never really bothered me. That for the price seems reasonable to me on that one.
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