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Old 03-20-2017, 09:34 PM
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Hey all,

I used to only collect modern cards, before moving to memorabilia, line-up cards and autographed baseballs over the last couple of years.

Spending time on this site I've come to appreciate vintage more, but I've been somewhat intimidated.

Looking through some auction catalogs I've wanted to try my hand at vintage but am not sure where to start and was hoping for some advice.

I'd love any advice or guidance that anyone has, and particularly thoughts on a set that would make sense to target.

I've come up with some basic criteria for a set:
1) Good looking cards (major criteria for me on this are images that really look like the player)
2) Big name players (would like a set that includes some of the classic names like Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson etc... doesn't have to have all of these guys specifically, but those kinds of players) edit: I took out Gehrig who is not from the same era)
3) Following up on the list before, I'd like cards from the player's playing days
4) Fairly simple set. I've read many posts about the different backs and the like to some of the sets and it makes things way too overwhelming for me at this point. I'd like something a little easier to follow.
5) Set that's not overly expensive

Thanks in advance!

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:41 PM
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Check out '33 Goudey. Lots of HOFs including Ruth and Gehrig. In fact, 4 different Ruths. Attractive, classic set.

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Old 03-20-2017, 09:48 PM
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Whenever I see a post like this, I almost always point to the early caramel sets, particularly the e93 set. Being only 30 cards, the set is small enough that it can be easily put together on a budget. The set is also packed with HOFers (18 out of the 30) highlighted by Cobb, Wagner, Mathewson, Plank, and Young. In lower condition but still presentable, you should be able to complete it for under $5k without much trouble. Other similar sets would be E95 or E92 Dockman or E101.

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W554 - Anyone with any red backstamp, Fonseca, Klein, Rommel
E/T Young Backrun - Need E90-1, E92 black Crofts Candy, E92 Dockman, E101, E105, T216 (all versions)
E92 Red Crofts - Anyone especially Barry, Davis, Shean, and Evers
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:49 PM
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Unless you want to get into exhibits or strip cards you'll have a hard time finding Wagner and Gehrig in the same set, don't even think they overlap in those 2 though. The big 4 of the deadball butt up against Ruth starting out with some small overlap. I think e120 and 121 have a bunch of the HOFers but the price has risen substantially in the last few years.

I'm a Cracker Jack guy, no Ruth but the big 4 are there plus Jackson but its not a cheap set.
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I appreciate the comments. I took out Gehrig because I think I'm leaning earlier than that. Guys like Mathewson, Cobb, Cy Young etc.
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Old 03-20-2017, 09:58 PM
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I appreciate the comments. I took out Gehrig because I think I'm leaning earlier than that. Guys like Mathewson, Cobb, Cy Young etc.
T201 leaps to mind.
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Whenever I see a post like this, I almost always point to the early caramel sets, particularly the e93 set. Being only 30 cards, the set is small enough that it can be easily put together on a budget. The set is also packed with HOFers (18 out of the 30) highlighted by Cobb, Wagner, Mathewson, Plank, and Young. In lower condition but still presentable, you should be able to complete it for under $5k without much trouble. Other similar sets would be E95 or E92 Dockman or E101.

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I took a look at the E93 and E95 sets and the Mathewson E92 Dockman is one of the nicest vintage cards I've ever seen. Those all look like they might be promising choices. It looks like the E92 so is a bit larger than other the other 2 if I'm understanding it right.

Other than condition concerns, is there anything to note about those sets?

Thanks!
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I've come up with some basic criteria for a set:
1) Good looking cards (major criteria for me on this are images that really look like the player)
2) Big name players (would like a set that includes some of the classic names like Ruth, Cobb, Mathewson etc... doesn't have to have all of these guys specifically, but those kinds of players) edit: I took out Gehrig who is not from the same era)
3) Following up on the list before, I'd like cards from the player's playing days
4) Fairly simple set. I've read many posts about the different backs and the like to some of the sets and it makes things way too overwhelming for me at this point. I'd like something a little easier to follow.
5) Set that's not overly expensive
The others can be done, but that last one is tough. To meet those other criteria, even in a low-mid condition you are going into the thousands after the Stars are added. How many thousands are you willing to state is not "overly expensive" and what condition is important to you?
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I took a look at the E93 and E95 sets and the Mathewson E92 Dockman is one of the nicest vintage cards I've ever seen. Those all look like they might be promising choices. It looks like the E92 so is a bit larger than other the other 2 if I'm understanding it right.

Other than condition concerns, is there anything to note about those sets?

Thanks!
For the e92s, just stick to the Dockman backs. The Dockman set is 40 cards. The other backs add more cards. The drawback to just doing the Dockmans is that you lose a few HOFers particularly Cobb, 1 Bender, and Collins. Otherwise, it is pretty straight forward. If you start looking at the other backs (crofts candy, cocoa, nadja) it will get quite pricey and extremely challenging/nearly impossible.

The E93/E95 sets are pretty straight forward. Neither have any shortprints or anything odd. The E95 Plank is he same basic portrait as the the T206 so it is fairly popular.

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E93 - Cobb
E92 Nadja - Bemis, Bescher, Bridwell, Cobb, Crawford, Donovan, Doolan, Doyle (with bat), Evers, Kleinow, Knight, Lobert, Mathewson, McGraw, Tinker, Wagner (both), Zimmerman
W554 - Anyone with any red backstamp, Fonseca, Klein, Rommel
E/T Young Backrun - Need E90-1, E92 black Crofts Candy, E92 Dockman, E101, E105, T216 (all versions)
E92 Red Crofts - Anyone especially Barry, Davis, Shean, and Evers
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I have what collectors call a team, type collection. The team I chose is the NY Highlander/Yankees, I have cards up into the 1950's but mostly focus between 1903 to 1930. This type of collection I can enjoy searching and finding the many different manufactures and makers of so many different types of cards. some collectors just have a type collection and try to find as many different kinds and not focus on a team......just one choice. The biggest thrill is the hunt and the discovery of a card you have been looking for !

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