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Old 06-26-2012, 10:15 AM
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Thought I would share a recent issue with PSA. Came across this Ebay listing and thought it was a steal, as the item description, and the PSA sticker confirmed that the signature was that of Lee MacPhail, however, I noted instantly that it was actually his HOF father, Larry. So I snatched it up.

I noted immediately that the signature was TOO perfect, especially for being on thin typewriter paper. I learned that the signature was actually a stamp and immediately called PSA and sent them my photos. I told them they had the wrong person and the item was not authentic. A week later I get a call back that yes, the signature was Larry (which the updated) but signature was authentic.

Fortunately I explained all this to the buyer and he had no problem issuing me a full refund and said that the letter will not be offered again as a genuine signature.

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Old 06-26-2012, 10:20 AM
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So has PSA branched out to a STAMP Authentication service now?
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Old 06-26-2012, 10:42 AM
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When you try to be fast, instead of accurate, this is what can happen.
(see Roy Campanella thread).
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:01 AM
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I saw that, but not only missing it was a stamp-but even identifying the wrong person?!
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:22 AM
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It really makes you wonder who is now doing the authentication work there.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:48 AM
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Like Richard said, they go WAAAY too fast. Here is a Larry MacPhail that they slabbed as a Lee MacPhail.

The original collector even went so far as to help them out and label it as a 1934 vice president of the Reds. But was PSA paying attention, NO! They slabbed it as a Lee MacPhail, who would have been 17 years old in 1934, a pretty young age to be vice president and general manager of the Reds I would say.

They are going 600 miles an hour, slabbing anything they want with any name they want. It's pathetic. I am in concurrence with you, PSA HOW COULD YOU? The hit parade continues.
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Old 06-26-2012, 11:53 AM
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It really makes you wonder who is now doing the authentication work there.
from the screen grab above it was certified in '06. op got lucky with an honest seller.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:03 PM
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If you just flipped a coin you'd be right half the time.
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Old 06-26-2012, 12:34 PM
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If you just flipped a coin you'd be right half the time.
Jim,

But what happens if I call Head's and get tails 10 x in a row...
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Old 06-26-2012, 01:51 PM
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There is a 50% chance that the coin will lay on tails the next time. You see, the "odds" of it landing on heads vs. tails will always be 50% regardless of how many times it has landed on tails before. And to take it to the next level an authenticator of autographs could do like the "Amazing Kreskin" and just flip a coin over the unpened box of submissions and still be half right or half wrong. If you play the odds though there is a 100% probability that the deposit for that day's submissions will arrive at the bank on time.
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