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Old 07-11-2011, 09:54 PM
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I have no dog in this fight either, but I have always lived by the following: Something is worth what someone is willing to pay. Example: If I need a Red T206 Portrait of Ty Cobb in EX condition with a Piedmont 150 back, and I "AGREE" to pay someone $3000 for it, that is what it is "WORTH" to me and my collection (albeit I would never do that) but I feel if a seller wants to use "make me an offer" he/she has the right to get whatever someone "WANTS" to pay what it is worth to "THEM" or move on. Just my .02
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:20 PM
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Jeremy,

LOL. all is good. I just won't waste my time trying to buy a card you are attempting to sell with the "make an offer" option. As I said before, if it works for you, great. I'm just not in on that game. Best,

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Kenny - About 90% of the stuff I sell has a price attached to it, as I believe that to be a easy course of action, but every now and again, if the market has weak info or if I absolutely am fire selling stuff to get rid of it, I just simply ask folks to make an offer. I have sold several items in the last 48 hours by accepting the first email and their offer. I think "make an offer" works for some just fine and it does not have to be a "game" as you suggest. (Of course I get that some make it a game, so to your point sure, I get it) Be well -
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:23 PM
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Well, I know what you mean! As for me, I am always a real listener to offers. I find that our 54 brothers are fair and as for me, if you see me selling something, I DO LISTEN TO OFFERS! I try to be realistic and I want my stuff to find a good home, so offer away in my case!
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Old 07-11-2011, 10:33 PM
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I think a large % of guys trying to sell cards in BST is a waste of time.
What % ?...I think about 50%..probably more.... This net54 site and its members are for the most part seasoned long time collectors..they know a good deal in a matter of seconds..without looking at a price guide..and when guys throw 30s 40s and even 50s cards out there..more times then not..the price is laughable....the prices they are looking for makes no sense..any sharp collector knows he can find a VGEX 34 Goudey of Cochrane ..in 15 different places....for less money !,
You see it often...a guys makes a post trying to sell a card..and he gets no responses for days..and what does he do... BUMP...then friendly BUMP...yea..do the bump...what was that song...." Aint gonna bump no more with no big fat momma " ! LOL
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Old 07-12-2011, 01:49 AM
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Those response to "why make an offer" are great for upstanding sellers and that's the way it should, but when you are using the offers to figure out your pricing and then don't even communicate or acknowledge your offers and then sell off cards I was interested in without even checking with me.

As far as outing someone on the board, if Scott didn't have the past poor history I would not mention the seller, but it is just more proof to me that he is all about greed.

As far as me crying that he didn't accept my offer, such is not the case because he never gave me a price or did not acknowledge the fact I either gave him a price or asked him for one, until it was posted the second time around. The initial offer I gave him was $300 for the Walsh, that is when I got the response "I'm guessing the price is in the ballpark on the HOFer. Let me think about it a bit. " Well that card got sold in a group with the Matty, Chase and Merkle for $2000, with the comment I had to take an offer I couldn't refuse. I thought it was very fair since I valued the Matty at $1500 and that left $200 for the Chase and Merkle which was in the ballpark, so I thought we were in the ballpark for working out a deal for the rest.

I asked twice for a price the rest minus a card he had on hold. At that point I got no response until the set prices showed up.

By the way, anyone buying these stamps and getting them graded, don't have any high expectations, then are the toughest graded issue I have ever seen . Any grade VG/EX or above is tough to come by.

As far as the gentleman that thought the Levy's were naive to the fact the back was black, reread the thread those are veteran collectors calling him and I can personally say the Hank Levy was the one about 10 years ago showed me what a brown back looked like. Bottom line is they knew, and if you want to believe them you are not trusted the hobby veterans and that is your loss.

From not knowing anything about the stamps and asking for offers to asking $1200 for a common, just smells of using offers to set the prices. And with no response to asking for prices and not getting anyit really stinks.


Have a good day all,

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Old 07-12-2011, 02:17 PM
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In a general sense, I also avoid any "make me an offer" ads.

Just for discussion, I would also point out that on some Boards related to other hobbies with a BST section, a price must be stated. The rationale is that "make me an offer" is really just a dressed-up auction (with a hidden and possibly moving reserve).

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Old 07-12-2011, 05:44 PM
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I think dealing with B/S/T is a lot like life in general. Sometimes things go your way but quite often they don't. Sometimes you're in the right place at the right time sometimes your not (sometimes you get the card you want sometimes somebody else does!). If you don't like to make offers, don't participate. I don't think it's the right thing to do to single someone out because of a perceived wrong, in this case Scott. Quite frankly I bought a couple of stamps from him (I don't think I have had any other previous dealing with Scott) and while he may have taken awhile to answer back, ultimately he did. In fact he offered me a price that I found out was extremely reasonable on a stamp and after he figured it out he was still willing to go through with the transaction.
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Old 07-12-2011, 07:23 PM
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I am fairly new to the boards here and I recently "made an offer" to someone here who tried to sell cards w/o showing prices. That seller will remain nameless, but is someone who is familiar with this thread. As soon as I made an offer, I got a response that "based on the following auction results X, Y, Z etc., your offer appears low." So much for not knowing much about the cards...

Lets not pretent that sellers use the "Make me an offer" format because they don't want to educate themselves about the value of the cards- They use this format to leave open the chance that you will offer more than they potentially would have asked for in the first place.
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Old 07-12-2011, 08:27 PM
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I actually understand both sides of the argument. For me, I am usually buying cards on this site, so if I see a card that I really want with a "make best offer deal", I will do just that and live with it. If I see a card that I am willing to pay $200 for and I have been chasing it for a while, then I will offer $200. If I get it, then great. If I don't, then I feel that somebody else "over paid" for it.
Make your best offer means, "make your best offer"......and live with it.

Some people will "low ball" an offer in hopes of winning it at a great price and when they don't get it, then they become upset. But, sometimes sellers will take all offers and only sell to the highest offer, so it does become like an auction.

But, like an auction, make your "best offer" and live with it........win or lose.

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Old 07-12-2011, 10:10 PM
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There are certain types of lots that "make an offer" is more appropriate than others. For example, rare/scarce cards, a large mishmash lot w/various years condition, or perhaps a card that you honestly don't know what it's worth are good candidates for "make an offer" sales.

What does not make sense is a when someone has a PSA 6 1967 Topps Mickey Mantle and their is a pretty long track record of it's recorded sale, etc. I prefer the seller should cut to the chase and list their asking price and not utilize "make an offer."

Also, "make an offer" is going to open you up to more communications and therefore as a seller I think you owe it to the people that take the time to respond to their offers even if if you don't like it...They took the time to write you and you owe them a courteous and timely response.
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