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Old 06-01-2011, 02:11 PM
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Seller list this card way under value but before I or anyone could buy it a ebay member tips them off as to how much there card might be worth. Read the questions on the bottom, way to go Dave : (

http://cgi.ebay.com/wayne-gretzky-79...#ht_500wt_1156


I am not sure why this was posted 5 times??? Sorry about that.

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Old 06-06-2011, 05:10 AM
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Great deal!?!?! The card is a BCCG 10??? What is that, a PSA 5???
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Old 06-06-2011, 06:33 PM
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A BCCG 9 sold for $800 and 10's sell for 2x. So that's a $1,500+ card no matter what the cross over is.
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A BCCG 9 sold for $800 and 10's sell for 2x. So that's a $1,500+ card no matter what the cross over is.
I think you might be confusing BGS with BCCG. Two different grading scales, two different markets, same company.
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I think you might be confusing BGS with BCCG. Two different grading scales, two different markets, same company.
Nope: http://cgi.ebay.com/OPC-79-WAYNE-GRE...#ht_500wt_1156

Jordan 9's go for 600-700 and 10's 1,000-1,200 so a Gretzky 10 would be $1,500+
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Nope: http://cgi.ebay.com/OPC-79-WAYNE-GRE...#ht_500wt_1156

Jordan 9's go for 600-700 and 10's 1,000-1,200 so a Gretzky 10 would be $1,500+

You are VERY confused about the difference in grading standards and about BCCG!
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Nope: http://cgi.ebay.com/OPC-79-WAYNE-GRE...#ht_500wt_1156

Jordan 9's go for 600-700 and 10's 1,000-1,200 so a Gretzky 10 would be $1,500+
That service is not meant for high end cards although some are in those holders. It's strictly a business proposition and one that some Beckett employees probably don't care for, but have to live with. It's business...... From their website-

Beckett Collector’s Club Grading Is Here!
Now, collectors can build a quality graded-card collection that is both attractive and affordable! Beckett, the leader in third-party sports card grading, is excited to bring you Beckett Collector’s Club Grading (BCCG), a new sports card grading service appealing to all sports fans and collectors. Available at a retail store near you, BCCG offers affordability in a top-quality graded-card product!

Another Level of Sports Card Grading with Exceptional Beckett Quality
BCCG features a modified numerical grading scale, with each level representing a range of standard conditions (Mint or better, Near mint or better, Excellent or better, etc.). So, at a glance, the condition of the card is unmistakable.

We understand the importance of protecting your cards. Every BCCG-graded card is sealed and protected in a superior clear plastic holder whose design is based on the top-quality Beckett Grading Services (BGS) holder. Each holder features a white BCCG label with assigned grade, card serial number and precise card description obtained directly from Beckett’s all-inclusive online database of sports cards. A fast and easy BCCG Card Lookup is available for card verification at the No. 1 online source for card collecting products, services and information – www.beckett.com.

A Super Alternative to Other Grading Services
Though BCCG-graded cards are completely separate and vastly different from the premium BGS- or BVG-graded cards, the same consummate care in handling is followed and consistent industry-leading quality of grading is applied to each and every card. As a result, BCCG-graded cards provide an eye-catching secondary market alternative to other graded card products, reaching a wider audience of fans and collectors.

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You are VERY confused about the difference in grading standards and about BCCG!
I guess we will have to wait and see, I would be willing to bet a BCCG 10 Gretzky will go for $1,500+ If a BCCG 10 Jordan goes for over $1,000 then how can a Gretzky RC OPC not? Just look at the completed sales. This Jordan sold for $1,450 http://cgi.ebay.com/1986-87-FLEER-MI...#ht_500wt_1156
A Gretzky OPC 9 sells for more than a Jordan 9.

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I think I agree with Chris. I have never owned a BCCG card, but a bccg 9 gretzky sold for 750ish. wouldn't you expect the 10 to sell for a fair amount more? Also, isn't a 10 the "equivalent" of a bgs 9? If so, there is a ton of value in that. A BGS 9 OPC Gretzky sells for 3k+, I believe.
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PT Barnum was right!
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I speak of value for resale. I think that you would get more selling it than 999. Just my opinion.
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Okay, but as soon as it goes up for auction you will see that you could have bought that card and have made a pretty penny. I'll be back.
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this is a great example of why alot of board members don't like beckett.

the card may sell for psa 8 or psa 9 prices, but the buyer will be getting an EXMT card. totally misleading.
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I think I agree with Chris. I have never owned a BCCG card, but a bccg 9 gretzky sold for 750ish. wouldn't you expect the 10 to sell for a fair amount more? Also, isn't a 10 the "equivalent" of a bgs 9? If so, there is a ton of value in that. A BGS 9 OPC Gretzky sells for 3k+, I believe.
A bccg 10 isn't necessarily the equivalent of anything. There are a few other factors in play, but for the most part they are grading the cards based on it's "true" condition without factoring centering. Basically, any card that comes straight from a pack should qualify as a bccg 10, and the varying grades would depend on how well a card was taken care of by the collector.

Theoretically, a bccg 10 with perfect centering should cross-over as a 10 to any major grading service. It probably doesn't always work out that way though.
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