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Cool thread. I think your numbers are crazy crazy high. Hell, probably 50% of the population can't name the Vice President. Here are my guesses.
Babe Ruth 99% Muhammad Ali 99% Jackie Robinson 90% Pele 20% Lou Gehrig 20% (disease obviously raises name recognition) Mickey Mantle 40% Joe Frazier 10% Roberto Clemente 10% (died too early) Joe DiMaggio 25% (Marilyn; Simon & Garfunkel song) Ty Cobb 5% Shoeless Joe Jackson 5% (mostly because of beloved/hated Field of Dreams) Wilt Chamberlain 10% (reports of 10,000 helped!) Bill Russell 5% Jack Dempsey less than 1% Joe Louis 5% Rocky Marciano 5% Jim Thorpe 1% Jack Johnson 1% A.J. Foyt 1% Richard Petty 20% Honus Wagner 5% Satchel Paige 5% George Mikan less than 1% Rogers Hornsby less than 1% Christy Mathewson less than 1% Walter Johnson less than 1% Bobby Jones less than 1% Bronko Nagurski less than 1% Josh Gibson less than 1% Georges Vezina about .001% Last edited by Snapolit1; 03-07-2018 at 06:56 PM. |
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I doubt 75% of major league baseball players have any idea who a lot of these baseball players are.
Seems like every year there is a news story where some young player admits to a reporter he doesn't know who Jackie Robinson was. |
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The trophy awarded to the NHL goaltender "adjudged to be the best at his position" each season - and every season since 1926-27 - is named in his honour, hence, even casual hockey fans have at least heard and know the name. |
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OK, didn't know that about Vezina. Good point. A major award is named after him. Didn't know that.
By the way, how many people out of 100 in the US do you reckon are serious hockey fans? I can name large racial and ethnic groups that, as a general proposition, have overwhelmingly have very little if any interest in hockey. I think we are all biased in that we overestimate the general interest in things we are interested in. Last edited by Snapolit1; 03-07-2018 at 08:02 PM. |
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It could be a single person out of that 100... and it would blow away that absurd and hyperbolic number you posted. You said it yourself... "I didn't know".... and apparently, you don't.
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I apparently am one of the few Americans who have never heard of him. Plead guilty.
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You are missing a very big name - Jesse Owens!!!
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Agreed! His name is legendary. I think many people have heard of him.
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4 Golds
Agree! Especially in the USA!
I bet Usain Bolt would be right now globally... And Carl Lewis would likely do well in the USA, I think
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Hockey esp older hockey stars going to be very small percentage. Gordie Howe would be a good one in midwest Mr Hockey is pretty well known in Hockey Town. But rest of US? Miken again Mr. Basketball in land of 1000 lakes greatest laker is well known but outside Minnesota?
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Now, regarding the amount of Americans "I reckon" that are "serious hockey fans"... why don't you tell me how many Americans you think have heard of Wayne Gretzky? Or better yet.... how many people in the world? I can guarantee he's known by more people than literaly every athlete on your list. .... and hockey yet... Go figure. Last edited by Huysmans; 03-07-2018 at 08:35 PM. |
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Please don't think I am in any way putting down your sport. It amazes me how many people don't know who Wanderlei Silva is. He is one of my heroes and for a 10 year period was the scariest MMA fighter on the planet. Win lose or draw extreme violence was a given in his fights. I just think as fans of a sport we overestimate how popular many of its players are with everyday people. I know I could only name 3 hockey players who have ever played. Last edited by bnorth; 03-07-2018 at 08:49 PM. Reason: spelling |
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Glad you specified that you're limiting the name recognition to the US. I'm a Canadian who has worked as a sportswriter in Beijing for the past seven years, so I can offer a different perspective. A couple of years ago my paper (circulation 675,000) ran a contest in which readers named their "all time favorite" sports hero. The No. 1 response, by a considerable margin, was Ali ... followed by NBA stars Yao Ming and Michael Jordan. Pele was fourth and David Beckham was fifth.
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Most of the guys know I collect, but nobody else does. I made a comment one day in the dressing room that I'm looking at an Art Ross card from 1910 (they wouldn't know what a C56 is). One guy on my team (in his 50's) said "Who's that? Never heard of him." I said "There's a trophy named after him." Now, appreciate the Vezina and the Art Ross are trophies that have been around since the 20's and the 40's respectively, and as well known as the Cy Young to baseball fans. I was embarrassed for the guy, but there is no excuse for ignorance. And he watches more hockey than almost anyone I know. Oh yeah, his dad is the commissioner of the NBA...
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I think it would be hard to find a person who didn't know who Mike Tyson is and he's certainly an all time great.
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I had my loved one take this quiz (she's pictured there in my avatar), and I copied what Derek posted of the responses his wife gave, then added her capitalized responses for comparision. She definitely did well in my main collecting pursuit (preWW2 baseball players), but obviously doesn't follow sports closely.
Babe Ruth 99% - yes / YES Muhammad Ali 99% - sorta - she first thought he was a basketball player, then remembered he was a boxer (phew) / NO! Jackie Robinson 99% - no thought he might have been a track star...she did know that he was black though. OMG / KINDA - she knows of him and that he broke the color barrier, but the name just didn't ring a bell tonight...she guessed female track star! Pele 99% - yes / YES Lou Gehrig 95% - yes / YES Mickey Mantle 95% - yes / NO...she guessed soccer! Joe Frazier 80% - no / NO Roberto Clemente 80% - yes / NO Joe DiMaggio 75% - yes / YES Ty Cobb 75% - yes / YES Shoeless Joe Jackson 60% - yes / NO...Say it ain't so, Joe! Wilt Chamberlain 50% - no / NO Bill Russell 50% - no / NO Jack Dempsey 30% - no / NO Joe Louis 30% - no / NO Rocky Marciano 30% - no / NO Jim Thorpe 30% - no / NO Jack Johnson 25% - no - she hears that name and thinks of the singer/songwriter / NO - same response...he's a singer she likes (who evidently writes some knockout lyrical hooks!) A.J. Foyt 25% - no / NO Richard Petty 25% - no / NO Honus Wagner 15% - yes / YES Satchel Paige 15% - no / NO George Mikan 10% - no - nor did I / NO...but I did Rogers Hornsby 3% - no / NO Christy Mathewson 3% - no / YES Walter Johnson 3% - no / YES Bobby Jones 2% - no / NO Bronko Nagurski 2% - no / NO Josh Gibson 2% - no / NO Georges Vezina 1% - no / NO...and I have only known about him in last couple of years because of Net54 and the member with 'Vezina' in his member ID Mike Tyson (added just for fun) - NO Brian P - YES (thankfully) Last edited by brianp-beme; 03-08-2018 at 09:10 PM. Reason: remembered to add Mike Tyson |
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