T206 question

[esd10]

I have seen many people put together a t206 sheet and my question if this is correct then why do we seen t206 cards with double names of the same player on the top and bottom?

[esd10]

This is not my card just showing what I was asking about

[G1911]

The sheets, for the most part but not always, repeated the same subject in a column vertically. Eddie Collins was printed above Eddie Collins, for example. The lithographers used different types of layouts for different sets, not all T card sheets look like this, but the T206's did for the most part. Thus most vertical miscuts (not quite all) will show the same subject

[Pat R]

It's complicated because there is definitive proof that the sheet layouts changed during the T206 printing and more than likely the size of the sheets also changed.

Some of the sheets had the same vertical subject from the bottom to the top of the sheet while other sheets were split with the same vertical subject on the first half
and a different subject on the other half. The biggest vertical plate scratch sheet is 12 T206's high with the same vertical subject from bottom to the top of the sheet.
Knowing that we know that some sheets were at least 12 T206's high (or bigger) so there were at least 12 verticals of the same subject on some sheets while some of the other
sheets were at least 6 verticals of one subject and 6 verticals of a different subject.

This is just my opinion how the sheets were printed for each print group

Print group 1 150/350 subjects were printed two different ways some sheets with the same vertical subject used and some sheets that were split 50/50.

Print group 2 350 only subjects were printed on split sheets with the possibility that some sheets were printed with the same vertical subject on the whole sheet.

Print group 3 350/460 subjects same vertical subject sheets only

Print group 4 460 only subjects same vertical subject sheets only

Print group 5 super prints split sheets when printed with print group 2 350 only subjects. Full sheet same vertical subjects when printed on print group 3 & 4 sheets.

Print group 6 Southern Leaguers Split sheets and a slight possibly that some sheets were printed with the same vertical subject on the whole sheet.

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[Leon]

I don't have much to add but that is great info Pat (even if it's only your opinion)

[parkerj33]

Hey Pat, great insights...remind me again where to find the research (or proof?) that the sheets were at least 12 high and have the EXACT same subject in all 12 spots? also that if a verticle is split, it is split exactly in half. I hadn't caught those two subtleties before.

Also, regarding the super prints, are you saying they were printed on their very own sheets, or they were mixed in on same sheet as print group 3/4/5?

thx jim

[Pat R]

Originally Posted by parkerj33

Hey Pat, great insights...remind me again where to find the research (or proof?) that the sheets were at least 12 high and have the EXACT same subject in all 12 spots? also that if a verticle is split, it is split exactly in half. I hadn't caught those two subtleties before.

Also, regarding the super prints, are you saying they were printed on their very own sheets, or they were mixed in on same sheet as print group 3/4/5?

thx jim

Hey Jim, There are two plate scratch sheets that put the minimum height at 12 cards high of the same subject in each vertical column.

Here's the best example. I've put red lines over the actual scratches and a black box around the Simon Nicholls vertical row because he has scratches on cards that cover the longest span.

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Here are two examples of the Oldring scratch in the lower right corner of this sheet that have huge corner crop marks that indicate the right corner (back) and left corner (front) of this sheet.

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I don't have positive proof that on the sheets that were split were split 50/50 it's just my opinion from the research that I've done.

Of all the two name cards that are confirmed none are from print group 3 or 4 and the two super prints that are confirmed (Chance yellow portrait and Chase blue portrait) have a print group 2 subject on the top.