e90-1 packaging

[ubiqty]

I looked a bit in the archives but couldn't find anything.

Can anyone tell me how the e90-1 cards were packaged? Is there any existing packages or wrappers out there?

Thanks,
Scott.

[Leon]

You would think with all of the associated E90-1's we would know what the packaging looks like. I don't think I have ever seen any though. The only thing I have is some fairly common letterheads (and this one) and this wrapper.......Besides what is written and printed on it I don't know anymore about it....regards

[Irwin Fletcher]

While we're on this topic, does anyone have any information regarding the how the E95 series was packaged? I just started collecting this set and I've been curious about the packaging.

[jtschantz]

Lets take this one even further, I'd be interested in information on the packaging of any of the popular "E" cards. Even if no one has a picture, I don't think I have heard anyone discuss how the cards were packaged.

[rman444]

E90-1's were distributed in complete set form through these boxes. The set came with a single piece of candy.

[FrankWakefield]

I think I've seen that letter before, as well as the quarter. I don't recall seeing the box or wrapper. Good to see those, thanks to both of you. I'm sure that you two just picked those up at The National, I know you've not been holding out on sharing those images with us...

[rman444]

The only thing I could afford at Leon's table was the quarter, which he charged me 35cents for.

The box has been in my collection for a long time, and you will notice the shrink wrap from the original date of issue - 1909. This is a complete factory sealed set.

[edhans]

Interesting. I didn't know they even had shrink wrap in 1909.

[4815162342]

Originally Posted by rman444

...you will notice the shrink wrap from the original date of issue - 1909. This is a complete factory sealed set.

Please tell us you're kidding.

[3-2-count]

Nice Richard. How bout you keep the quarter, but send me the box.

Tony

[Matthew H]

Why does the box say 80 count?

[ubiqty]

Did he just say what I thought he said?

[FrankWakefield]

1- I don't think a complete set came in an "80 count" box.
2- I think there are 80 candy packages in there, not one.
3- I'm not convinced that that candy is what had E90-1 baseball cards with it.
4- It seems likely to me that shrink wrap would be first used around WW II, with the advent of plastics, and not back in 1909.

[Leon]

That is a neat box. Of course the shrink wrap was probably put on much, much later to protect it. How are you sure that a whole set came in it? Just curious.....

[Matt]

Originally Posted by 4815162342

Please tell us you're kidding.

He's kidding.

[FrankWakefield]

Maybe the E122 set of 80 by American Caramel came in something like that, sans shrink wrap. But I'm still doubtful about a box exactly containing a set of cards...

[Abravefan11]

Lipset estimated that 78 of the E90-1 cards were issued in 1909 with the additional 42 being added in 1910 and 1911.

[Troy Kirk]

Here is a scan of an American Caramel box. The scan came from ebay in 2000, and I didn't buy it.

[ubiqty]

Thanks for the scan Troy.

Do you have any idea on the size of that box?

Would that box have then had a certain number of smaller packages in it, each with 1 e90-1 card?

Would theoretically 80 of them been in the box that Richard showed?

Does Richard's box potentially have unopened e90-1 cards in it?

I guess the mystery remaines unsolved an maybe just nobody knows for sure.

Thanks for everyone's help.

Scott (ubiqty)

[Troy Kirk]

Scott, I don't know the size of that box. From my recollection, the seller said it was issued much later than the 1910 era, so I don't think it was used for E90 cards, though I don't really know.

[tedzan]

In the late 19th century there were three major Caramel Company's. Milton Hershey founded the Lancaster Caramel Co. in Pennsylvania
in 1886. The Breisch-Hine Co. of Philadelphia and the P. C. Wiest Co. of York, PA merged together to form the American Caramel Co. in
1889. Its founder, Daniel LaFean, acquired the Lancaster Caramel Co. from Hershey in 1900 for $1 Million. This expansion resulted in the
American Caramel Company controlling 90% of the caramel candy market in the country at the beginning of the 20th Century.

LaFean was an avid Philadelphia A's fan and a close friend to Connie Mack. LaFean was a shrewd businessman and in 1908, he started to
include BB card premiums with his Caramel products. The 1st set of cards in 1908 were the E91's (33-card series). Followed up by the 1st
series of E90 cards in late 1908 (and early 1909).

In what form these early E-cards were packaged with caramels, I'm not certain of. There was a great thread on Croft's candies on Net54
by Scott Mosley a few years back that illustrated how candies in the Philadelphia area were packaged.



TED Z

[Irwin Fletcher]

Did Erik Vardon's "Sweet Recollections" book on the Philadelphia Caramel Company discuss packaging for the E95 and E96 series? (I haven't read his book, but I am planning to soon)

[phlflyer1]

Originally Posted by tedzan

There was a great thread on Croft's candies on Net54 by Scott Mosley a few years back that illustrated how candies in the Philadelphia area were packaged.

TED Z

Hi Ted,

I think I know the thread that you are referring to but I am sad to say that I know a lot less than you give my credit for.

I remember chiming in on a thread a couple of years back which speculated about whether or not Crofts Cocoa E92s might have been distributed with actual bottles of Crofts Cocoa and I am 100% confident that this was not the case.

I do have my theories on how the Crofts cards were distributed based upon research that I've done when I can find free time (hard to do with 13 and 11 year olds) but I cannot say with 100% certainty how they were made available.

Thanks to Lew Lipset and a relative of Jimmy Sheckards, at least we know definitively how another set that I am interested in was distributed...