Crossover result

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Posted By: Dave Haas

I recently sent a 1921 Exhibit card graded SGC40 to PSA for crossover. I requested a minimum grade of PSA 2. It came back not crossed due to the card not making my minimum grade (2). I cracked the card from the SGC case and sent it in again to PSA ungraded and guess what? It came back graded PSA 4. I have read here that if you don't get the grade you want on the first go around to crack it and resubmit until you do. I guess this confirms it. Does this happen alot?

DH

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Posted By: Kyle

My experience has been to crack and resubmit, versus resubmit in a holder. I've had several cards grade low, crack and resubmit and they grade 2-4 grades higher. Its a weird business.

I suppose it really comes down to whether or not you think the card is truly undergraded or potentially altered.

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Posted By: Joe D.

I think any grader/grading company can't help but have a bias when looking at a card that is already holdered.

Crack and submit would at least remove that bias.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

Tough decision and I think it depends on the card.

I have an SGC 88 pop 1 none higher in a very popular PSA Registry set. I want to cross it over to a PSA 8 pop 3 none higher.

I plan to submit to PSA in the SGC holder with a minimum 8. If it doesn't cross at 8 I'll keep it in the SGC 88 holder.

Does this make sense? Does this even address the issue?

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Posted By: Scott Mt. Joy

I have done a lot of crossovers to both PSA and SGC.

On crossovers to PSA I always crack and submit, I dont think they are fair at all on crossovers from other companies, I have had them reject over 20 cards that I then cracked and sent in only to get all 20 to grade at min or higher. I no longer send any slabbed cards to PSA. Two tips to help, PSA grades OC and marks/writting as a 2 point drop vs less for sgc and that can make a difference.

On crossovers to SGC, I just send them in whatever slab they are in, SGC grades them strickly on the cards merit not what the slab says, very fair with the grades regardless of the slab company. One tip on SGC is they crush any paper loss (expect around a 20/1.5) vs PSA who is much easier grading it (have seen PSA 4's with slight paper loss)

Good luck!

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Posted By: boxingcardman

It would be a 2 at SGC, so I agree with you there. SGC hammers the snot out of full bleed cards, like Exhibits. I have some really gorgeous SGC 3 1928s that are nicer than some PSA 5 Exhibits I've seen.

When I get PSA cards I always crack and send to SGC; I never bother with a cross-over. I haven't tried to send SGC to PSA. I might with some of my high grade 1971 Topps cards though if I decide to downgrade a touch on my set and use the proceeds to complete it; I think PSA 9's would be easier to sell for top dollar than SGC 96's.

And since it's Monday, let's mention GAI: I've had very bad luck crossing GAI cards to SGC. Rejections for trimming.

Sic Gorgiamus Allos Subjectatos Nunc

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Posted By: Paul S

PSA's volume of cards is so huge that cards get whizzed through the process like nobody's business -- even with, or maybe because of, two graders per card plus a third if a tie-breaker is needed (I think that's the way it goes.) Inconsistency is not an uncommon by-product.

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Posted By: Steve Murray

I think today is Tuesday.

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Posted By: Jason

I've always submitted PSA cards in their slabs to SGC and never had a problem. The few that didn't cross were returned showing me where they found fault with the card and I can live with that.

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Posted By: JK

SGC is very fair and as noted above, judges cards on their merits, not their slab. Ive had dozens of psa and gai slabbed cards cross at my minimum grade and several that have received half point bumps. Ive also had a few that didnt cross.

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Posted By: Andrew S.

Does this happen alot?

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Posted By: Bob

PSA to SGC= my experience has been no problem.
GAI to PSA= you might as well keep your submission fee, crack them open and send them raw. Incredible bias at PSA toward GAI cards.
SGC to PSA= mixed results. I agree that you are better off cracking.
GAI to SGC= mixed results.

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Posted By: B.C.Daniels

that was a beautiful post YF!

BcD

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Posted By: George

Hello, was reading some of the posts. Many people suggest cracking the card out and sending in which seems like a great idea but having never done it, doesn't appear to be that simple without me harming the card. Any suggestions on the easiest way to take a card out of a holder?