1914 Colonels with George Weiss and other Pre-Rookie RPPC's

[bmarlowe1]

You can't even see facial features in what you just posted. How do you explain the differences shown in my post?

[Brian Van Horn]

Originally Posted by bmarlowe1

You can't even see facial features in what you just posted. How do you explain the differences shown in my post?

Mark,

I look at the cheekbones and I have looked at hundreds of Paul Waner photos over the years. The young man in the photo is Paul Waner. I am sorry you disagree, but it is Paul Waner.

[bmarlowe1]

Relative cheekbone location can be used in a forensic facial comparison, but in none of the images under discussion can the cheekbone location be discerned. There is actually something in particular to look for and you surely don't know what it is.

Even if the cheekbones could be seen and seemed to match (which would not be uncommon even for different people), a gross mismatch in any other facial feature virtually disqualifies two images from depicting the same person. Assuming the bad scan as posted is true to the image as seen in hand, the ear mismatch alone immediately tells us this is not P. Waner. Same for the nose.

You are just using your subjective (and very fallible for most people) facial recognition response plus a lot of wishful thinking.

[Brian Van Horn]

Mark,

The nose is not upturned in the image of the young Paul Waner and the cheekbone structure matches between the picture and the Zee Nut rookie card. I am sorry, but it is Paul Waner.

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Mark,

The nose is not upturned in the image of the young Paul Waner and the cheekbone structure matches between the picture and the Zee Nut rookie card. I am sorry, but it is Paul Waner.

We can easily see your guy's nostril because his nose is upturned. Compare that to the two Waner exemplars I posted. You still haven't explained the ear.

What is cheekbone structure?

[Brian Van Horn]

Mark,

Just please look at the cheekbones and how pronounced they are. They match. As for ears, believe it or not, but ears and nose continue to grow ever so slightly as we age. Of course , I have found for some reason in my case, my feet have grown a bit with age (again ). I graduated college with size nine shoes. I now have size eleven shoes.

[RedsFan1941]

i know from experience that it's disappointing to find out a card you own isn't what you thought it was. bummer.

[bmarlowe1]

Originally Posted by Brian Van Horn

Mark,

Just please look at the cheekbones and how pronounced they are. They match. As for ears, believe it or not, but ears and nose continue to grow ever so slightly as we age. Of course , I have found for some reason in my case, my feet have grown a bit with age (again ). I graduated college with size nine shoes. I now have size eleven shoes.

The ear growth of which you speak is so small that it would not be noticeable even when comparing a photograph of a teenager to that of a man in his 40's. It rarely becomes apparent until much later, and even then it is usually just some ear lobe droop - not a gross change in shape. Old man and teenager ears can almost always be compared. If you are interested I can send you literature on the use of ear comparison in forensic photo identification.

Nose tip also can droop when we get old - but nowhere near enough to account for the gross difference seen here, and anyway and in the exemplar photos of Waner he is not that old.

Cheekbones are not visible in any of the images under discussion.