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Old 06-17-2014, 08:11 PM
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Default The Roaring Twenties?

The 1920's were notorious for consumer consumption...namely liquor. Very light on Baseball Card production however. The decade ended with the huge crash...60 years before the first super-premium (hologramed) cards were produced.

Certainly, there were a few nice looking 1920's cards. Whatcha got???

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The 20s seemed like a lull between the cards of the 10s and 30s.
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The 20s seemed like a lull between the cards of the 10s and 30s.
I had always totally felt this way too, but since joining the board and being exposed to more and more of the various B/W caramel issues (many posted on main forum, and many offered on BST like Brian Van Horn's regular listings), many of the sets have grown on me including E120, E121, E122, E220, as well as some of the exhibits. Still can't bring myself to like strips through.

Here's a few favs picked in my life A.N. (After Net54)--
1922 Eastern Exhibits Babe Ruth.jpg1927 Exhibits Lou Gehrig.jpg
1929 R316 Kashin Mel Ott rookie.jpg1929 R316 Kashin Lou Gehrig.jpg
E120 Grover Alexander.jpgE120 George Sisler.jpgE122 Sam Rice.jpg
E121 Rogers Hornsby SGC40.jpgE121 Harry Heilman.jpg
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Ian - For the most part BW photo cards (besides OJ) don't do anything for me. Does anyone know why cards had such a dramatic change in appearance during that decade?
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Ian - For the most part BW photo cards (besides OJ) don't do anything for me. Does anyone know why cards had such a dramatic change in appearance during that decade?
I felt exactly the same until I got my first couple. I was roped in by early Ruth's/Gehrigs and fallen in love with them since. Give it time, you may get sucked in like me.

I'll defer to other board experts as to why there was not much color in these 20's sets, but will venture to guess it may relate the development of cameras and their ability to capture action shots more clearly than in the past (as compared with long held/posed faux action shots in OJ era). Seems to me this style of B/W set, with action shots started in the teens (T202, E135, etc) and carried into the '20s. Maybe these were considered more "modern" than the early T and E style artwork.
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Ian - For the most part BW photo cards (besides OJ) don't do anything for me. Does anyone know why cards had such a dramatic change in appearance during that decade?

More food coloring needed for all the cheap speakeasy hooch!
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I had always totally felt this way too, but since joining the board and being exposed to more and more of the various B/W caramel issues (many posted on main forum, and many offered on BST like Brian Van Horn's regular listings), many of the sets have grown on me including E120, E121, E122, E220, as well as some of the exhibits. Still can't bring myself to like strips through.

Here's a few favs picked in my life A.N. (After Net54)--
Attachment 149290Attachment 149291
Attachment 149292Attachment 149293
Attachment 149294Attachment 149295Attachment 149299
Attachment 149297Attachment 149300
Attachment 149301Attachment 149298Attachment 149302

You have almost all of them...certainly lots of HOFrs I cannot get a hold of.

Big Kudo's - especially on the Alexancer, the Hornsbys, and the Sislers!
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You have almost all of them...certainly lots of HOFrs I cannot get a hold of.

Big Kudo's - especially on the Alexancer, the Hornsbys, and the Sislers!
Thanks, all 3 of those raw ones and the Hornsby came from the BST. In addition to Ruth, HOFers like Sisler, Alexander, Heilmann also sucked me into the '20s sets because all played in a window that kept them out of many of the other huge sets that came before and after like T206 and Goudey.

There's some sweet ones on BST now.. many of which are pretty uncommon, but affordable
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More food coloring needed for all the cheap speakeasy hooch!

I hope this was the case.
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some from the 20s...
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Play the Holsum game!

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It's funny, because when I first started getting into vintage and pre-war collecting, I really didn't have any interest in the black and white cards. I didn't dislike them, mind you, but I felt somewhat indifferent. But then I looked at Jeff's post card collection (jb217676), and just fell in love with black & white. Next, I saw Adam's collection of Exhibit cards, and I was hooked. There's a real beauty and elegance in the simplicity of black and white photography. Now I see things like the Sporting News M101-2 supplements, and I really want to incorporate them into my collection. And once I begin collecting again in earnest, which will happen soon, there will certainly be a lot more diversity in my collection.
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My 2 early Yankees from before I discovered EBAY- purchased from Teletrade via phone auctions...what a ripoff that was...both seller & buyer paid fees.

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Let's infuse a little color into this thread...



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Here's one that hasn't been shown yet.

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Thanks Raymond. Brian, I really like that Sisler. Great card.
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Raymond, thanks for giving me the opportunity to once again show some of my favorite Sam Rice cards from the 1920's.

I realize that I'm in the minority, but I much prefer the real-photo b & w cards of the 1920's to the colorful artwork cards of the 1910's.
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Great cards, Kenny. Makes me wish I was a cigar-smoker in Cuba in the mid-1920's. But then I would be dead now and unable to type this
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Raymond, thanks for giving me the opportunity to once again show some of my favorite Sam Rice cards from the 1920's.

I realize that I'm in the minority, but I much prefer the real-photo b & w cards of the 1920's to the colorful artwork cards of the 1910's.
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Love the Paterson V89 poses...

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WaJo has the best looking V89 Patterson pose!
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Wow, there's some really awesome cards posted in this thread! I really like the B&W cards from the '20's. "Old School (pre-digital)" Photography is a hobby of mine. I actually minored in it in college and have spent a lot of time in a Darkroom. Because of that, I picked a set from that era to concentrate on - the E121-80 set. I'm up to around 30 or so. I also try to collect pittsburgh related types from that era as well. Here's a couple:
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Overkill on the W504s with raw scans heavy on the red:
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Imo, one of the best looking cards ever came from the 20's the e121-120 Ruth Montage...

I love black and white sets and the 1920's is one of my favorite times periods for cards. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder....
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Another of the Type 1, 1920 version Holsum cards,
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This one is a bit of a stretch for the '20s, but since the date range includes 1920, I'll include it.

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My favorite cards from the era are the Exhibits from the late 1920s ...
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I agree most strip cards are very ugly, but there are some here and there from certain sets that are much better looking than others. I've always liked this Ruth....
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Brian, you have a fabulous collection of W504s, especially of the Wash. Senators cards which are super scarce! To me, these are "to die for" cards, ever since I started collecting cards of all players on the 1924 Senators team a few years ago. My 2011 edition of the Standard Catalog of Vintage BB Cards shows that about half of the Senators checklist is still unknown - I don't know if the more recent editions have changed this. FYI, I know of another Board member who has card #160 of WaJo (not checklisted in 2011), but I don't think there is a snowball's chance of enticing him to part with it.
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the 20's have actually been one of my favorite periods for cards as I love the Exhibits, caramel's and HOF rookie's that the era produced.
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I agree most strip cards are very ugly, but there are some here and there from certain sets that are much better looking than others. I've always liked this Ruth....

This is the only Ruth card I own.
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1920s W-UNC "Shoulderless" Series

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.......I would not want to pitch to Chuck Klein with that look on his face...

... Fresco Thompson has beautiful penmanship....it's fountain pen and probably of that period....that doesn't really matter though ; it's just neat that it's signed ; he became a Dodger in the thirties and stayed with them in their organization forever it seems .
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My favorite cards from the era are the Exhibits from the late 1920s ...
I would have to agree with you, Chris.
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