T206Resource.com - a new T206 site

[Leon]

I received this email a few minutes ago and with the permission of the owners am posting this for them. They put a ton of work into this project and I wish them all the best with it. I am very excited for my fellow collectors and friends. LL


Hi Leon,

As you know Jim Rivera and I, along with help of Art Martineau and Brian Weisner, have been working on a new T206 website. This site will always be a work in progress but we have reached a point where we feel there is enough quality information worthy of sharing.

Though a great deal is known about the T206 set we believe we have been able to break new ground and have presented several aspects of the set in ways not seen before.
This site is a way for us to share with everyone the information and ideas a few of us have been sharing privately for some time. We hope that all collectors of the set will find something useful or of interest on the site.

In an effort to make sure no one that has helped us goes unnoticed, we have included on the site an “About Us” page. This page lists anyone that has contributed directly in some way to the site and new names will be added as additional information is shared.

Jim, Brian, Art and I would like to thank everyone that has helped with this project.

Regards,
Tim Cathey

http://t206resource.com








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[BobbyVCP]

Nicely done.

[Jantz]

Thanks for posting this Leon. I'm headed there now.

Jantz

[Bicem]

AMAZING site, and I don't even collect t206's!

[Mikehealer]

Just briefly scanned the site, looks great. Looks like a lot of very helpful information to all T206 collectors. Nicely done to all involved.

[iggyman]

Ahhh! Thanks! Fantastic site! Great T206 fix! Ahhh! Thanks!

Lovely Day...

[AndyG09]

Great site guys! Doesn't look like there could be anything more 206 on it. Thanks for putting it together!

Best,

Andy

[buymycards]

Very nice - very thorough. Thank you very much. I find it interesting that a link to T213-1 is included.

Rick

[Northviewcats]

Very nice work. I especially like the checklist and the article section. I've got it bookmarked.

Best regards,

Joe

[sreader3]

Hey Tim,

First of all, thanks for the hard work and congratulations on a fine site.

I'm just starting to comb through it. There is some great new stuff--like the discovery that Crawford (Throwing) is unavailable with Sovereign 150. I also really like the Olbermann proofs page--I had never before seen a color version of the Schulte (Front View Chicago On Shirt) proof.

The thesis that the 150 subjects printed with Sovereign 150 were the "original" subjects is also interesting, although I'm not quite sure how that jibes with the fact that the Magie error was corrected before the Sovereign 150 printing.

Best,

Scot

[Gradedcardman]

Looks great !! Kudos to all involved !!

[Zach Wheat]

Wow great looking site guys with some interesting stuff. I am sure I will be back on a regular basis. It is obvious a lot of effort went into this site.

Zach Wheat

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by sreader3

The thesis that the 150 subjects printed with Sovereign 150 were the "original" subjects is also interesting, although I'm not quite sure how that jibes with the fact that the Magie error was corrected before the Sovereign 150 printing.

Thanks everyone for the kind words.

Scot - ALC did not consider the Magee a new subject but rather a correction to a current one. Also as you get deeper into the information you will see that they didn't consider same image team changes for Dahlen, Elberfeld, Browne, O'Hara, Demmitt and several others as new subjects.

We as collector's have classified them as two subjects, but the people responsible for the set treated them as updates to a current subject.

[spacktrack]

Fantastic site guys...a great contribution of information to the hobby. The Olbermann section is awesome--didn't know a lot of the info posted there.

Brian

[Ronnie73]

Who should we contact about unconfirmed cards in the checklist? I have a Dick Hoblitzell Cycle 350 and a Paddy Livingstone Tolstoi.

[cfc1909]

You can send confirmations direct to admin@t206resource.com or use the Contact Us section on the site. The Contact Us page has a file upload tab so you can include scans. We do need to see good scans of the front and back in order to confirm cards.

We look forward to hearing from anyone that can confirm cards for the checklist.

[Runscott]

Nice....

Leon - didn't want to share your Matty white cap?

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Runscott

Nice....

Leon - didn't want to share your Matty white cap?

Last time I looked it was there.

[Ronnie73]

Just sent an email using the "contact us". Not sure if the file attach works but if it does, I guess you can only attach one file per email. Also after the email is sent and you get redirected, graphics don't load properly. I'm using Internet Explorer.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by Ronnie73

Just sent an email using the "contact us". Not sure if the file attach works but if it does, I guess you can only attach one file per email. Also after the email is sent and you get redirected, graphics don't load properly. I'm using Internet Explorer.

Ronnie - Thanks for the scans and for catching that glitch. It was an error with our email software that I have corrected. You can now upload four images per email and the redirect takes you back to the sites Home page.

[Tom S.]

Tim and Jim (et al.),

Great site! Thanks for all of the hard work that went into providing such a valuable resource for the T206 collector. I know I will go to it a lot!

Hopefully the scans of my Billy Sullivan SC 150 Fac. 25 that I sent from the "Contact Us" page made it to you so that the appropriate checklist can be updated.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by Tom S.

Hopefully the scans of my Billy Sullivan SC 150 Fac. 25 that I sent from the "Contact Us" page made it to you so that the appropriate checklist can be updated.

Tom - Thank you for the confirmation. The scan was received and the checklist has been updated.

[terjung]

Impressive work and effort! Thank you for sharing this authoritative information with the hobby!

[barrysloate]

Hi Tim and company- want to say this is a beautiful site, and congratulations to all the hard work that went into it. And thank you for including the article Judd Hamlin and I wrote way back in 1995. In those days we knew woefully little about the set. Today, the amount of additional information available is staggering; things collectors know casually were not imagined by us in those pre-internet days. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to add something to your site down the road.

Regards,
Barry

[jp1216]

Barry,

So true. The 'pre-internet days'.... Now information like this is everywhere. It's great that people can still contribute 'new' information 100 years later.

[joeadcock]

Tim(and others)

Nice site. Well set up.

[Big Ben]

Congratulations to everyone involved in putting together a great site! The Olbermann proofs section was a very interesting read!

[dog*dirt]

Congrats to everyone who helped put in the work for this site. Very well done with lots of info to be found all in one place. What I wouldn't give to have that that Collins proof

[ZernialFan]

Very impressive site! Thanks to Tim & Jim and all that contributed. I've got a number of T206's, but I'm still very much in the dark about details and this should help me as a go to place for info.

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by barrysloate

Hi Tim and company- want to say this is a beautiful site, and congratulations to all the hard work that went into it. And thank you for including the article Judd Hamlin and I wrote way back in 1995. In those days we knew woefully little about the set. Today, the amount of additional information available is staggering; things collectors know casually were not imagined by us in those pre-internet days. Maybe I'll be lucky enough to add something to your site down the road.

Regards,
Barry

Barry - We were very pleased to receive permission to reproduce the VCBC articles. Even though much has been learned about the set since some of the articles were written, they still contain great information and are enjoyable to read. If you're ever interested I would love to talk to you about doing something for the site.

[mrvster]

Congrats Guys!!!

WELL worth the wait.....

thanks for the treatment.....i felt vip the whole time.....

Tim,
get my number from Jim and holla sometime.....great work guys

Peace

V

[E93]

The site looks great! Thank you for all the hard work you put into it. It definitely raises the hobby understanding of the set to a new level.
JimB

[cfc1909]

Art, Brian and myself have wanted and talked about creating this site for years.

With Tim's knowledge and talent T206 Resource is a reality.

Thanks to all who contributed, especially Rob D.

[aquarius31]

Superb job! It's very thorough and designed very well...thank you!

[teetwoohsix]

I completely love this new site !!! I want to thank Tim, Jim, and everyone else who contributed in making this site and all of the wonderful information you guys provided to us all. The name is very fitting, this is an awesome resource for beginers as well as an excellent point of reference for veteran collectors.

I am so stoked over this, and very appreciative of the project overall- thank you !!!

Sincerely, Clayton

[rebelsart]

I was happy to contribute and glad to see the website is well received. Many thanks to those who worked so hard to get this information together. Enjoy the site!
Art Martineau

[RickGallway]

No ebay rover links?
No t206 displays for sale?
No banners for a network of junk "livetocollect" websites?

I'm in!!

[Brian Weisner]

Hi Guys,

Please take your time and read through the site, as I think Jim and Tim have done an incredible job of explaining how the “T206 set” was printed and distributed. They discovered an easy way of explaining the set in the actual “print groups” which no one thought of before…. While many of us have tracked cards for decades, and identified several patterns and even specific subsets, no one has put the entire set together like Tim and Jim. I won’t go into all of the reasons to create the site, but I will say, that we all felt that the T206 Museum should not be the “go to site” for the T206 set….

Be well Brian

[sreader3]

Hi Tim,

I very much like the breakout checklists by back--that was much needed.

I noticed that you have described the blank back as "not distributed" but have made no similar notation regarding Brown Old Mill Southern. Have you confirmed a factory cut Brown OMS?

Scot

[Abravefan11]

Hi Scot,

Thanks for your question. I know we make mention of the brown Old Mills only being hand cut several places on the site, but let me know if there is somewhere we aren't clear. And to answer your question, no we have never seen a factory cut brown Old Mill.

The following are a couple of excerpts from the site:

Back Scarcity Page
^Old Mill (SL) – Brown & Blank Back
These two backs were not inserted into packs, and both are essentially printers scrap. Some might not consider these necessary for a complete back run, but because of their scarcity and ties to the set, they will remain highly prized by many collectors.

Back Advertisements Page
These cards are printers scrap, were not issued in packs and are all hand-cut.

Print Group 6 Page
These cards essentially were printers scrap and never factory cut or distributed in packages.

Again, please let me know if there is somewhere we weren't clear regarding the brown Old Mills and we'll add the necessary text.

[philliesphan]

Thank you for making this possible!

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by sreader3

I noticed that you have described the blank back as "not distributed" but have made no similar notation regarding Brown Old Mill Southern. Have you confirmed a factory cut Brown OMS?

Scot

Scot - I think I figured out the place on the site in question. On the "Backs" page all of the cards printed factory numbers, including the brown Old Mill, are referenced with the exception of the blank back which said "Not Distributed." I changed the blank back description to say "No Factory" so there isn't a conflict.

Let me know if this was it. Thanks for pointing it out.

[sreader3]

Hi Tim,
Yeah, "not distributed" was the source of my confusion. I like the change you made to "no factory". Again, kudos to you, Jim and the others on the site.
Scot

[sportscardpete]

Great site guys!

[Baseball Rarities]

Guys - great site. Thanks for all the hard work that yoiu put into it. What a great resource for the hobby.

[Jay Wolt]

A fantastic site, thanks to all who made it happen!

[DixieBaseball]

Tremendous site guys ! Thank you for your contributions !!

[insidethewrapper]

Great site ! Thanks for all the hard work on this.

I have one question: If I'm at an estate sale and they would have an unopened cigarette pack, how would I know if any baseball cards could be it in ?

Is this information on the site ? Any markings etc I would need to look for.

Thanks

[MVSNYC]

awesome site guys, congrats to all involved!

[Abravefan11]

Originally Posted by insidethewrapper

I have one question: If I'm at an estate sale and they would have an unopened cigarette pack, how would I know if any baseball cards could be it in ?

Is this information on the site ? Any markings etc I would need to look for.

Thanks

We have not put any information regarding the packaging onto the site yet, but we will be in the near future.

The tax stamp on the pack will be the first thing you will look for. This information would tell you if the pack in question could include a baseball card. For more information on how to read the tax stamp Click Here

Once you understand how to date the pack you will know if it falls within the time frame that T206's were inserted into that brand.

Keep in mind that ATC inserted other non sport cards during the time period T206's were produced, like birds and fish, into the same brands as baseball cards.

There are several boards members that have a great deal of knowledge on this subject.