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Old 01-14-2018, 10:16 AM
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Quite a few auction houses digitally alter their scans.
I guess congratulations to Memory Lane for honestly representing the card.

The Heritage scan almost make Battlefield look respectable...what a shame.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:29 AM
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Heritage makes all their cards look like that...we'll just call it "nuclear" clean, and yes, definitely the same card.

45 graded copies on record of the card, but there are crosses and cards that were simply broke out like mine...yes, I freed a 1914 CJ Matty.

Why did it go for what it did? Someone else started a thread on this recently and I will reiterate what I said before. Leon states that in collectibles that demand trumps all and we see this all the time. So there are set collectors, they want one. There are HOF collectors, they want one. There are master set collectors than can go on the cheaper side with 15s, but they still need the 14 Matty. Then there are folks like Jeff who collect Cobb and Chase that made the decision he wanted one.

The 1914 Matty is THE ultimate CJ, hands down. At one point the Chance card was actually more valuable than the Matty and Cobb overtook both of them for a while and then Jackson overtook all of them. The Matty has become one of the biggest cards in the hobby, prices have soared, corrected, whatever you want to call it. I don't think the price is going south any time soon.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:34 AM
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Heritage makes all their cards look like that...we'll just call it "nuclear" clean, and yes, definitely the same card.

45 graded copies on record of the card, but there are crosses and cards that were simply broke out like mine...yes, I freed a 1914 CJ Matty.

Why did it go for what it did? Someone else started a thread on this recently and I will reiterate what I said before. Leon states that in collectibles that demand trumps all and we see this all the time. So there are set collectors, they want one. There are HOF collectors, they want one. There are master set collectors than can go on the cheaper side with 15s, but they still need the 14 Matty. Then there are folks like Jeff who collect Cobb and Chase that made the decision he wanted one.

The 1914 Matty is THE ultimate CJ, hands down. At one point the Chance card was actually more valuable than the Matty and Cobb overtook both of them for a while and then Jackson overtook all of them. The Matty has become one of the biggest cards in the hobby, prices have soared, corrected, whatever you want to call it. I don't think the price is going south any time soon.
I was shocked for a while how relatively cheap the 14 Matty was. To me it was an incredibly cool card and unlike the rest of the 14s, it was a unique image not repeated in 15. I blame David McD for turning me on to it. His example is sublime.
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I blame David McD for turning me on to it. His example is sublime.
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Old 01-14-2018, 10:51 AM
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And I STILL like yours better than mine.
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:04 AM
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No offense to anyone else's Matty! (I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed)

But David, your example is by far my favorite in the hobby and never grow tired seeing it.
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No offense to anyone else's Matty! (I wouldn't kick any of them out of bed)

But David, your example is by far my favorite in the hobby and never grow tired seeing it.
Yup...
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Old 01-14-2018, 11:51 AM
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Jeff/David- ridiculously incredible examples.
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Heritage scans are obviously too bright, but on the other hand provide fantastic detail on corners and edges.
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Jeff, Tony, Steve and New Jersey's Most Interesting Man - Sarno. Nice to see some familiar faces. Thanks for the Matty love. It's about the nicest card I've got.

Here's a scan of the back for those that like that sort of thing.
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At the risk of embarrassing David...he, without a doubt, has one of the most sophisticated collecting eyes I know of.
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Holy smokes David. That is truly a dream card.
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I guess congratulations to Memory Lane for honestly representing the card.

The Heritage scan almost make Battlefield look respectable...what a shame.
Heritage's scans are disgraceful. At least PWCC knew enough to stop with such scans.
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