Where Will Clayton Kershaw Be end of 2020

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

8 innings 7 hits no walks 9 k's 2 earned runs.

"it's not looking too good for him"

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

8 innings 7 hits no walks 9 k's 2 earned runs.

"it's not looking too good for him"

We have our Cy Young winner for 2018, no?

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

We have our Cy Young winner for 2018, no?

so if he is not top 5 contention for cy young he had a bad year. The fact the bar is so high shows you how dominant he is and has been. So what if he doesnt match is prime elite years. If he pitched 80% as good as he did in his elite years and only pitched at that 80% mark for his whole career, lets say 17 years...hes still in the Hall of fame as one of the greatest ever.

plus his best playoff pitching has been in the last 2 playoff years versus the prior years.....so hes only getting better in that area...

if a NL fantasy draft started tomorrow..he'd still be right there with Nola, Scherzer, Degrom. You want to talk about injuries....talk Strasburg...

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

We have our Cy Young winner for 2018, no?

So those are the only options for you? Cy Young or faded into obscurity by the end of the season???

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

So those are the only options for you? Cy Young or faded into obscurity by the end of the season???

Just trying to point out how silly you are for using a single game's stats to rebut my pov. Don't worry our BVG 10 Kershaw rookies still have value.

[Aquarian Sports Cards]

I was pointing out how silly

"Who?

Where will be be at the end of 2018? It is not looking too good for him. "

is.

Also if you'd like more than one game. When he went on the DL his ERA was 2.86, it's now 2.39. His WHIP was 1.10 it's now 1.00, His BAA was .237, it's now .220. Clearly he's washed up and has no future. I mean hell, he is 30...


Oh, and I don't own any modern cards.

[Dewey]

He'll be celebrating consecutive World Series championships with L.A.

[chaddurbin]

Originally Posted by Dewey

He'll be celebrating consecutive World Series championships with L.A.

finally an option i can get behind on (not looking good this year tho). baseball arguments in this section are pointless...the launch angle and exit velocity on some of these posts are pathetic! the arguments are weak popups at best...

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

I was pointing out how silly

"Who?

Where will be be at the end of 2018? It is not looking too good for him. "

is.

Also if you'd like more than one game. When he went on the DL his ERA was 2.86, it's now 2.39. His WHIP was 1.10 it's now 1.00, His BAA was .237, it's now .220. Clearly he's washed up and has no future. I mean hell, he is 30...


Oh, and I don't own any modern cards.

Well shucks Scott you are a master debater.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

Just trying to point out how silly you are for using a single game's stats to rebut my pov. Don't worry our BVG 10 Kershaw rookies still have value.

Silly to judge someone on one season, given his extensive all star/cy young history and heck even this year is an excellent year...what gives?

[Lorewalker]

Originally Posted by 1952boyntoncollector

Silly to judge someone on one season, given his extensive all star/cy young history and heck even this year is an excellent year...what gives?

I would like to ask the same. What gives? I simply made an opinion based on my observations (one that was shared by a few guys here) and you and the other guy have made it personal as if I was insulting your moms.

My opinion is also influenced by a short interview I read in May or June with Kershaw and his own doubts about reaching certain milestones in baseball. It was almost depressing. Will see if I can find it.

[1952boyntoncollector]

Originally Posted by Lorewalker

I would like to ask the same. What gives? I simply made an opinion based on my observations (one that was shared by a few guys here) and you and the other guy have made it personal as if I was insulting your moms.

My opinion is also influenced by a short interview I read in May or June with Kershaw and his own doubts about reaching certain milestones in baseball. It was almost depressing. Will see if I can find it.

nah....but the issue is moot now...theres lots of other pitchers you can talk about on the downside that are breaking down.......Kershaw is way too soon...let him actually be bad before jumping on him.... ..it seems personal with you against kershaw..

interesting tidbit is that kersaw evidently slipped in the draft to number 7 because his last high school start he was not lights out......Tim Lincecum actualy drafted right after him....for the first 2 years that Tim was in MLB you would think there is no way Kershaw would end up being 10x better than Tim but its all about sample size..

[Peter_Spaeth]

Originally Posted by Aquarian Sports Cards

8 innings 7 hits no walks 9 k's 2 earned runs.

"it's not looking too good for him"

Sign of things to come, hopefully, he's a joy to watch when he's on.