T207

[bbcardzman]

Since finding this site a year ago I have read many articles and books and even checked out web sites devoted to T206 cards & T205 cards, but I can find very little on the T207 cards. I collect Cardinals cards from all years and sets and have put together want lists of Cardinals cards and the possible known back combinations from all the tobacco cards except the T207 set. I was wondering if anyone here might know where I might find out more on the T207 Brown Background set.

[kmac32]

actually, all T207 Cardinal cards were destroyed in the Great Chicago fire of 1871 and were deemed as the tinder that Some warped Cardinal fan/ arsonist used to start the fire so no such list will be available for the Cardinal players. :-)

An arson investigator went to the scene of the crime and found a pile of T207 Cardinal players cards in the smoldering ashes of a barn located on the "O'Leary" residence. It was also discovered that "Mother O'Leary" had recently moved to the Windy City from St. Louis along with her cow that was housed in the barn where the fire that burned the vast majority of the city had began.

During police questioning, Mother O'Leary admitted that she was only trying to prevent the Cubs from ever winning a World Series title. History determined that she would not be successful as the Cubs actually won two World Series in 1907 and 1908 and would forever make Cardinal fans jealous of the Cubs making Cardinal fans forever obnoxious in their behavior towards the Cubbies and their fans. :-)

[bbcardzman]

Originally Posted by kmac32

actually, all T207 Cardinal cards were destroyed in the Great Chicago fire of 1871 and were deemed as the tinder that Some warped Cardinal fan/ arsonist used to start the fire so no such list will be available for the Cardinal players. :-)

Good one! but at little early for 1912

[kmac32]

Originally Posted by bbcardzman

Good one! but at little early for 1912

haven't you ever heard of time travelers. Mrs O'Leary was one of them.

[kmac32]

actually, there is a list of all T207 cards in Bob Lemke's Standard Catalog of Vintage Baseball Cards and you would have to cross reference it with a team list. That is how I came up with my T207 Cubs list. the different backs is the challenge and there are a couple of different board members that would be a good source of this info. Think mike Frome??? and Tbob would be the experts.

[sb1]

Your best reference would be Tim Newcomb's work in Old Cardboard magazine. Here is a link to an overall study. His main works appeared in 2004 issues, which you might be able to find back issues from Old Cardboard or other board members.

http://www.oldcardboard.com/eNews/20.../eNews74.htm#2

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Thanks for sharing, nice looking poses on those cards. I too have noticed the hints of color on some of the T207s you mentioned. Again, they are very different from the other cards of that time. There definitely are some challenges hiding in that set.

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[Cozumeleno]

Yes, I think some of the poses and the way they were captured is extraordinary. Sadly, there are some ugly cards in the set and some of the artwork (i.e. Walter Johnson) wasn't very good. But there are some nice cards to be had.

[Leon]

Originally Posted by Cozumeleno

Yes, I think some of the poses and the way they were captured is extraordinary. Sadly, there are some ugly cards in the set and some of the artwork (i.e. Walter Johnson) wasn't very good. But there are some nice cards to be had.

I also think the look of the set doesn't attract as many collectors as some others that are more aesthetically pleasing. Still a great set to collect though!!

[Cozumeleno]

Originally Posted by Leon

I also think the look of the set doesn't attract as many collectors as some others that are more aesthetically pleasing. Still a great set to collect though!!

Yeah, I agree with that. There's no doubt that the artwork on the T205s/T206s trumps it (by a lot, actually). I think I was drawn to them because I always read about how ugly they were and seeing them in person, I didn't think they were quite so bad as a lot of people believe.

There are ugly ones and the overall look is pretty sterile, but there are also things I enjoy about them. Some of the action shots are pretty nice, the all brown background doesn't terrify me as much as it does others, and even though the gloss surface has cracked on many of them, I can appreciate the change in surfacing from the other two sets.

They're also harder to find, which makes the hunt a challenging one.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

I am expecting my very first T207 to be in my mailbox tomorrow, and I am excited about its arrival as it feels like the beginning of something new. In the grand scheme of things, it isn't anything major--a vgex ish Steinfeld. I have been wondering about the few other T207 collectors and your various approaches. For those of you who collect these little brown cards:

1. Do you collect these exclusively?
2. Do you collect these in graded or ungraded form or just whatever you are lucky enough to find?
3. What is your particular approach to these cards? By team? By player? By back? By whatever catches your eye? Some other way?
4. Are you a high grade or low grade T207 collector or whatever you can find?
5. Anything else worth throwing in that I should have asked.

[vintagebaseballcardguy]

Yes, I agree the Walter Johnson is a bit odd looking.

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