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Old 03-07-2018, 02:41 PM
The Nasty Nati The Nasty Nati is offline
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I'm sure there is a "cross-over effect" but very little when it comes to T213-1 Coupons. I don't think that too many people are looking for a slight bump in grade because it's easy to look at any T213-1 and see that it deserved the low grade due to the flimsy nature of the card. And bumping a T213-1 up a grade isn't going to have the same bump in price as a more collected rare T206 back like say a Broad Leaf or Drum.

Still, t213-1 need more love. It's definitely a T206...and so are T215s.

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Old 03-07-2018, 04:56 PM
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Still, t213-1 need more love. It's definitely a T206...and so are T215s.
Frank has convinced me that if there were no Coupon type 2+3 or Red Cross type 2, Burdick would have listed them as T206s.
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Old 03-07-2018, 05:27 PM
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Here are my three T213-1 NYA cards...would love to get the 2 Chase NYA cards to complete my T213-1 NYA run....

Ted et al., love these threads!

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Old 03-07-2018, 10:08 PM
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Here are my only two T213-1 cards. Kind of funny, when I got them a long time ago I got them as a cheaper alternative to getting the T206 Southern Leaguers.



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My memory is a little hazy, but I was at or around mid to upper 50's on this set at one time... About a decade long vigorous pursuit until I petered out. I still love these rare gems. I think I am sitting on 21 of these cards now. Here is one of my favorites in the set (with paper on the back where it was probably stuck to the Coupon box end as there are a majority of examples missing paper in the same place on the reverse or have paper attached to them like this one) ... also a RPPC of a New Orleans Store with boxes of Coupons in the background - Just Imagine how many cartons were in each box (Perhaps 1 Coupon Card per Carton):
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Default Interesting trivia about 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards...show us some of these rare gems

Great to hear from you, Jeremy.

And, thanks for posting your COUPON Cigarette cartons. I alluded to these cartons in my Post #11 in this thread.


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Old 03-14-2018, 04:01 PM
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Default Interesting trivia about 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards...show us some of these rare gems

Here's my Matty Mac....it's the only one graded by PSA.

SGC shows only one graded by them.

Whether you consider these 1910 COUPON cards as part of the "T206 family" tobacco brands (or not), one thing is certain......
they are exceptionally rare.



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Default Interesting trivia about 1910 COUPON (T213-1) cards...show us some of these rare gems

OK guys.....I am re-playing this thread for those of you who aren't members of the " The 1910 COUPON club " .

As you read the posts in this thread, you will see that a fair number of serious collectors in this forum agree that the 68 cards in the 1910 COUPON
set are actually a sub-set of the T206.
I will spare you the usual gobble-de-gook that goes with this debate, instead I will reprise and emphasize a significant factor that sets the timeline
of when this set of cards were printed and issued.

Circa 2007, Brian Weisner and I had an interesting conversation regarding the Major League subjects in this set. Brian pointed out that the majority
of them were NOT printed with POLAR BEAR backs (like the 138 other 350-only Series T206's. After researching this....sure enough 39 of the 48
subjects are POLAR BEAR No-Prints
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The Six Super-Prints and Willett were printed with POLAR BEAR. This is logical, since these seven subjects were extended into the 350/460 Series.
Engle and LaPorte (350-only subjects) are the other two printed with POLAR BEAR.

What does this signify to us. Well American Litho did not introduce the POLAR BEAR backs until the 350-only series press runs circa Summer 1910.
Therefore, the absence of POLAR BEAR backs on the majority of these Major Leaguers in the 1910 COUPON set tells us this series of cards preceded
the POLAR BEAR print runs.
So this is my argument for the 1910 COUPON timeline being being Spring/Summer 1910. It makes sense to me. Especially since the subsequent 250
subjects in the T206 set were all printed with POLAR BEAR backs.

Because, if those "nay-sayers" with their contention that this set was issued after 1912, then explain to us why the lettering in the captions of these
cards are NOT blue ?


My hypothetical 48-card sheet of the 1910 COUPON Major Leaguers (reflects an early 350)-only Series sheet)





Major Leaguers (48 subjects)

Becker......Boston NL
Bender (trees)......A's
Byrne......St Louis NL
Campbell......Cincinnati
Chance (portrait-yellow)......Chicago NL
Charles......St Louis NL
Chase (blue portrait)......New York AL
Chase (dark cap)......New York AL
Cobb (red portrait)......Detroit
Cree......New York AL
Donovan (throwing)......Detroit
Doolan (fielding)......Phillies
Dubuc......Cincinnati
Dunn......Brooklyn
Engle......New York AL
Evers (bat-yellow sky)......Chicago NL
Fletcher.....New York NL
Hartsel......A's
Hoffman......St Louis AL
Howell (portrait)......St Louis AL

Huggins (portrait).....Cincinnati
Huggins (hands at mouth)......Cincinnati
Hunter......Brooklyn
Killian (portrait)......Detroit
Knabe......Phillies
LaPorte......New York AL
Lennox......Brooklyn
Marquard (portrait)......New York NL
Mathewson (dark cap)......New York NL
Marshall......Brooklyn
McBride......Washington
McElveen......Brooklyn
McIntyre.......Detroit
Mitchell.......Cincinnati
Mowery......Cincinnati
Myers (bat)......New York NL
Myers (fielding)......New York NL
Paskert.......Cincinnati
Rhoades (hands at chest)......Cleveland
Rossman......Detroit

Schmidt (portrait)......Detroit
Starr......Boston NL
Street (portrait)......Washington
Summers......Detroit
Sweeney.......Boston NL
Thomas......A's
Willett......Detroit
Wilson......Pittsburg


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