Questions about 1863 Jordan & Co. CdVs

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Posted By: Jim Sager

I've been looking at the 1863 Grand Match CDV's for only a short while, but I've become increasingly curious about a couple of things and wonder whether others might share my musings. First, the 1863 Jordan & Co. set of Grand Match CDVs or tickets were photos of Sam Wright Sr., Harry Wright, William Crossley, and William Hammond. There are multiple poses of Hammond - one with a cricket bat and one with a ball. There also seem to be multiple poses for Crossley. However, Crossley has changed clothes between poses. And frankly, the individual in the photos looks somewhat changed also. In addition, there is a photo from the same session of George Wright. The George Wright CDV shares the same Jordan & Co. logo on the back of the card but isn't printed with the "Admit Bearer..." ticket information. So we know that at least one photo was taken of a Wright family member that wasn't playing in the match. So, my question is this, is one of the "Crossleys" actually Dan Wright, one of Sam Sr.'s sons who reportedly didn't play either cricket or baseball? My second question is whether there might also have been a CDV photo taken of young Sam Wright. Take a look at the images on this web page. Any thoughts?

http://www.jlsager.com/Wright_Stuff/Wright_Stuff.html

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Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman

http://www.network54.com/Forum/153652/message/1193080416/New+Hobby+Find-+1863+Jordan+%26amp%3B+Co.+CdV+of+Crossley

Jim, as a photography collector myself, I have over 30+ Andrew Jordan studio CDV's of young children that look the same way.

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Posted By: Sagemo

Hi Jimmy. I'm sure there are a boatload of kid pics by Jordan & Co. I've seen a couple myself and also seen the table used in the photo that I posted in another photo that was unrelated - must have been a standard prop. I'm still curious about the Crossleys. If those are the same person then Crossley was quite a character. BTW, has anyone seen the backside of the CDV in the NYPL archives that I thought might be Dan Wright. I'm just curious if it's was a St. George's ticket or just a standard Jordan & Co.

Anyway, thanks for humoring a newbie.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Crossley looks a bit different in each pose but those glaring eyes are the same in both. Are you sure Crossley's first name is William? That's the first time I've heard this, and of course I am writing up the text for Crossley as we speak.
Also, George was likely not part of the four card set because he was not a veteran cricket player at the time. While he was always a great athlete, he was only sixteen in 1863.

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Posted By: Jimmy Leiderman

Barry, it is William Crossley.

He was a pretty good cricket player at the time and his name can be found in some books.
"The Tented Field" is one that comes to mind right now, and there's another one that I don't remember right now but it's a book that covers one of the 1850's USA-England matches.

Btw, have you tried contacting the C.C. Morris Cricket Library at Haverford College?
Try this link: http://www.haverford.edu/library/cricket/