TRIVIA.....Will history be repeated ? ?

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

A little bit of Trivia to get us off OJ Simpson, or Overprint/Underprint controversy, or books about TRIMMED Wagner's,
or FAKE Wagner's on TV.



WHO AM I ?
__________


I AM JUST OVER 40 YEARS OLD

I LOVE THE OUTDOORS

I HUNT

I ENCOURAGE THE EFFICIENT USE OF AMERICA'S NATURAL RESOURCES

I AM A REFORMER

I HAVE MANY CHILDREN

I HAVE BEEN SELECTED TO BE VICE PRESIDENT,

EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN GOVERNOR FOR LESS THAN 2 YEARS

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Posted By: jdrum

A pig with lipstick? Just kidding of course.

edited: poor spelling

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

WRONG......

Try again

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Posted By: Craig W

I'll take Alaska's Hottest Governor for a thousand, Alex

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Teddy Roosevelt

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Posted By: Bob

If you said the person was a true reformer and not a political hack who is truly unprepared to ever be president if the president died in office, I'd say Jeff is right and it is Teddy Roosevelt.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

18 baseball players were named after George Washington but none have played since 1956....is he starting to lose his luster?

8 players are named after Thomas Jefferson and just 3 after Abraham Lincoln...none after William Taft but 2 got stuck with the worst president ever,Franklin Pierce. Amazingly only one player got stuck with the name "John Quincy Adams" but that was by choice. Charles E Strick changed his name on his own to John Quincy Adams Strick....very odd since there is no way he knew him personally and he wasnt alive while JQ was pres. Maybe he changed it to try and break his career long slump as a .164 hitter.


On a side note, I have planned for many years now to name my first born "Ulysses S Grant Hurricane" whether it was a boy or a girl but only recently have i stopped using that as my opening pickup line

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

John, Grant's middle initial "S" was not even real..it basically stood for nothing. You'll never get over on any women using that line.

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Posted By: paulstratton

Tell us how you really feel tbob. I love TR, too bad they don't make em like that anymore.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Jeff the S in my future offsprings first name actually stands for " Scott has to be out of his mind to think someone will pay 150k for a card with a stamp on it"

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

TR -- the youngest man ever to be president.

And Bob, don't worry about Palin: stick her with a teleprompter in front of a faux Greek temple in front of 85,000 people and she'll look plenty presidential.

Edited to add: John, that "S" also stands for nothing.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

1st, the S did stand for something. It stood for Simpson, which was his mother's maiden name.

2nd, he was born Hiram Ulysses Grant, and went by "Lyss".

3rd, when nominated to attend West Point, the Congressman who nominated him sent it in as 'Ulysses S. Grant', thinking that was his name. The Congressman knew that his mom's maiden name was Simpson.

4th, Grant tried to register as Ulysses H. Grant, but the school wouldn't allow him in if the appointment didn't match.

5th, so Grant adopted 'Ulysses S. Grant' to get into West Point.

6th, Groucho used to ask folks who was buried in Grant's Tomb. Grant wasn't and isn't. Grant died in 1885, the Tomb was built after he died, but while his wife was still alive. US Grant was entombed there 10 or more years after he died. His wife is there. I think there are some befriended or adopted children there, too.



So who said, "Knowing a lot about baseball is like knowing a lot about whittling." ???

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

The "S" in Harry S. Truman stod for nothing. S was actually his middle name.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

People sometimes ask me if I was named after my father who also goes by John/z28jd and I tell them no,my grandparents named their grandkids first then had kids....of course I was named after him,hes 24 years older than me!

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Well, Frank that was my point: the S was not his given name, just his mother's maiden name. Are you the second Net 54 person who has read Grant's memoirs? Best presidential memoirs ever written -- and under the most pressure.

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Posted By: Ted Zanidakis

It's amazing how this thread got "side-tracked" to U. S. Grant so quickly ! ?

But, I'll play this "silly game" by paraphrasing Abe Lincoln....when some in Washington during the Civil War were encouraging
Lincoln to give General Grant the "Don Rumsfeld treatment"....by suggesting that Grant "was drinking to much".

Lincoln told them...."to find out what booze Grant was drinking and send the other Generals a case of it"


OK....BACK TO THE INTENDED TOPIC......





WHO AM I ?
__________


I AM JUST OVER 40 YEARS OLD

I LOVE THE OUTDOORS

I HUNT

I ENCOURAGE THE EFFICIENT USE OF AMERICA'S NATURAL RESOURCES

I AM A REFORMER

I HAVE MANY CHILDREN

I HAVE BEEN SELECTED TO BE VICE PRESIDENT,

EVEN THOUGH I HAVE BEEN GOVERNOR FOR LESS THAN 2 YEARS

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Posted By: paulstratton

You mean Twain's Jeff? A lot of pressure yes. He was a great general for sure, but a pretty crummy President.

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Posted By: john/z28jd

Sorry to get it off topic Ted,I figured Teddy Roosevelt was the right answer and then we moved on....I guess he is a little older than 40 by now. Is the answer Jerry Browne,the old Rangers 2nd baseman from the late 80's early 90's? I know they called him governor and hes in that age range now.

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Posted By: barrysloate

I knew Teddy Roosevelt, and Ms. Palin, you are no Teddy Roosevelt!

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Paul, yes, and I agree regarding Grant's performance as President. Some thought that George Custer might make a run for the presidency had he not been killed at the Little Big Horn. That would have been interesting as well.

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

I was spanked by Grover Cleveland on two non-consecutive occasions.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Jodi, I didn't know that you were into that but it's cool.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Jodi and Jeff with back to back zingers...well played

Jodi- I'm sure you know that Abraham Simpson delivered a nearly identical line.

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Posted By: Jodi Birkholm

That's where it came from! Your second-last post reminded me of it for some reason!

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Posted By: paulstratton

Custer always tried to pimp himself with the media, it would have been interesting for sure. Oddly enough...it was Grant's Indian Policy(one which Custer disagreed with) which cost him his life.

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Posted By: Frank Wakefield

Jeff L, one well read 21st century man.

Hail, fellow bibliophile!!

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Posted By: Paul S

Although Ronald Regan is the wrong answer,
I figured I would never even get the most remote
chance to post this Exhibit card. Thanks for the opportunity!

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

us grant was a terrible president but his memoir is definitely a great read. its incredible that he had to be injected with brandy just to be able to function. and a little known fact about his memoirs is that one mark twain was his publisher.

i believe the answer is teddy roosevelt. is it not?

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Posted By: paulstratton

Do you even read through the posts ali?

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Posted By: ali_lapoint

uh, yea i did. ted posted his question again after someone said teddy so i assumed that meant teddy was not the answer. so i was asking if teddy was correct or not. did you read the thread?

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi Barry,
You didn't know Teddy... and you don't know Mrs. Palin...

Be well Brian


PS Ted I know the answer, but no one cares.... Be well my friend.

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Posted By: barrysloate

You know Brian, I'm pretty old...

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Posted By: Chuck

is it Babe Ruth ?

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Posted By: David Atkatz

"The "S" in Harry S. Truman stod for nothing. S was actually his middle name."

Which is why there should be no period after the initial.

(Harry didn't use one.)

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Posted By: David Atkatz

"You didn't know Teddy... and you don't know Mrs. Palin..."

Are you implying that Sarah Palin is a Teddy Roosevelt?

I can think of a few important differences, right off the bat. (Besides the most obvious one.)

Teddy went to Harvard.

Sarah went... where?

Teddy not only read a book or two, he wrote a few--as well as editing a magazine.

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

Wait, I know this one: Occidental College?

PS--Joe Biden read books too -- and then he crossed out the names of the authors and wrote in his name instead!

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Posted By: David Atkatz

I'll take plagiarism over speaking in tongues any day.

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Posted By: Brian Weisner

Hi David,
Read my post again...


I know Barry and he knows me... My post simply pointed out an error to him, as he does to me often.... especially with commas.

PS Hi Barry, I'll be sending you some cards tomorrow afternoon.

Be well Brian

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Posted By: David Atkatz

Sorry if I misinterpreted.

But I'm a little touchy when it comes to the most cynical choice of running mate ever.

We really are, to a large extent, a nation of morons. (And morons who are proud and happy to be so.)

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

David, as you know, despite the best efforts of the liberal media no one has ever come forward to say that Sarah Palin ever spoke in tongues. Of course, many people (and video) have come forward saying that Obama's 20 year spiritual advisor hates America and white people. But why quibble over facts?

By the way, as a lifelong Democrat who has never voted Republican in his life (wow, does that mean I might be slightly more objective than, say, the average angry liberal?) I agree that Sarah Palin was an incredibly cynical choice -- second only to the choice of Obama by the Dems.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Thanks Brian. I'll call you when it arrives.

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Posted By: barrysloate

We do have some odd people running on both sides. This was billed as the most important election of our time, and what we end up with is a bunch of mediocre and ill-equiped candidates.

Is that really the best we can do?

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Posted By: David Atkatz

Ya know, Jeff, if I described myself as "a lifelong Democrat who never voted Republican in my life," I'd be right on the mark. Don't know where you got that "angry liberal" ****.

And Karl Rove didn't chose Obama. the Democratic primary voters did.

Of course, it's totally irrelevant what either Obama's or Palin's "spiritual advisor" believes.

But, Rev. Wright does have a valid reason or two to be pretty pissed at this country. I doubt Palin's pastor's reasons for believing that we're near the "end of times," or that speaking in tongues is a manifestation of being infused with the holy spirit, or that men and dinosaurs lived happily together, or... any number of other crackpot beliefs are as well-justified.

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Posted By: David Atkatz

Obama is mediocre?

Is the current editor of the Harvard Law Review mediocre, too?

Whatsa matter? Does the idea of some actual intelligence making it to the Oval Office scare you?

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Posted By: Jeff Lichtman

David...face it: the Democrats lost this election when they chose Obama over Hilary. I didn't think it possible that they could have blown this election considering the circumstances but, in fact, they did. You know it, Obama knows it and Karl Rove especially knows it.

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Posted By: barrysloate

Allow me to elaborate: he's a really bright man, but I'm disappointed at the lifeless campaign he's running. Whatever magic he brought to the table early on seems to have dissipated.

Just the fact that the race is a dead heat when he should be way ahead is not a good sign.

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Posted By: David Atkatz

First, Jeff, I don't believe that's so. I think Obama will win.

Secondly, and most importantly (if you are right), it shows a total lack of cynicism on the Democrat's part. They (we) chose the person we felt was the best qualified, the person who would do the best job, and not the person who was most (easily) electable.

F**K Karl Rove.

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Posted By: barrysloate

David- I hope you are right, but I don't have a good feeling about this election. It's becoming a popularity contest, and Sarah Palin is the beauty queen.

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Posted By: paulstratton

See what you started Barry. From U.S. Grant and Teddy it degenerates into libs v. conservatives, I guess it was inevitable.

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Posted By: David Atkatz

There's still a month and a half to go, Barry. I think you'll see the Dems cranking things up.
(Lord knows, they've got enough material.)

And the debates should be a hoot.