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PWCC in the House
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Ten Grand! Wow!
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Lovely card. Somebody probably paid about $50 for it thirty years ago.
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Wowser!!! Very nice, but just a tad out of my price range.
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LOL!! You are probably right!
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Funny, if someone had posted that thing raw on here asking for opinions, I'd have said fake without thinking twice.
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Why Jeff?? Too perfect?? it doesn't have any of the telltale signs of being a fake,.
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wow...Stan looks "pack fresh!" you could cut your steak with those corners!
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LOL...If you do, you aren't getting $10k for it anymore.
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Unbelievable - Just WOW
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Amazing card! I have my doubts on this card being unaltered
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Sweet but they don't have it labeled HE!
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Beautiful card, but I have never had or seen one w/o one or both sides rough cut.
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Not HE. Not interested.
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Just checked my lowly 7 and yeah there is a bit of a rough cut on the right side.
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Glad I am not the only one that was seeing that. There is no paper or fiber pull anywhere either.
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Exactly. Would have just assumed fake due to centering and corners before looking closer.
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The owner of my local card shop bought like 100 sets of 1986 Topps Update. He sent psa 100 EACH of the Canseco, Bonds, and Bo Jacksons. Mind you, these cards were all in a sealed set until the moment he sent them. Not one card received a PSA 10. Now tell me how a 60 year old card, which for about 30 of those years didn't have much financial value at all, can be pulled out of a pack of gum by some kid, stored god knows how, and remain a 10. I'm not sure, but I don't think they had nice holders for those cards in the 50's and 60's. It's truly amazing. Having have said all that, I just don't see how that card is worth 5-figures more than Peter's 7 (yes, I saw the right border). It is truly insane.
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I have long suspected there are politics involved in 10s, at least at the very expensive level.
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My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. |
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hand cut 10's...hostess 10's...he definitely has friends in high places!!!
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he doesn't get cheated.
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It's not certified high end, I'll pass
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One of the great mysteries of the hobby is why some Mint cards get 9's and some get 10's. All of them are basically the same, so some other factor is involved in the decision.
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What stood out to me was the amount of junk-era crap that isn't even worth grading unless you are guaranteed a 10. And even at a 10, they are only worth a few bucks more than the cost of grading. I can understand graded cards selling for $10 when they obviously just came in lower than the owner had hoped. But a psa 10 for $10.00 seems like a $3 profit in a best case scenerio.
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One of my best friends in the hobby would walk the floor of every show he went to (and he went to alot) looking at 52 Bowman's and specifically at Musial's. He must have shown me a hundred top examples of the card and I never saw one that looked like the one that sold. I would give that card a 10 all day long it is heads and shoulders above any other 52 Musial. Congrats to new owner.
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I have read that 4SharpCorners has a sweetheart deal with PSA where they have thousands of cards reviewed monthly and only slabbed if they meet a certain grade threshhold. Say something on the order of $2 per card review and $4-5 for the ones that deserve to be slabbed. The ones that don't make the grade probably get sold raw by New England or tried again. At that price, it's a whole lot easier to make a profit.
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I've always been tempted to buy say 100 PSA 10s from them, crack them out and resubmit, and see how many 10s I get. I am guessing no more than 10 and probably closer to 5.
Not because their cards don't deserve 10s, but because 10s are an arbitrary grade IMO and I think there has to be some element of it makes a difference who is submitting.
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The bar codes on the cardsavers going to the graders have no information on who submitted them. I am not a #conspiracytheory guy.
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My avatar is a sketch by my son who is an art school graduate. Some of his sketches and paintings are at https://www.jamesspaethartwork.com/ He is available to do custom drawings in graphite, charcoal and other media. He also sells some of his works as note cards/greeting cards on Etsy under JamesSpaethArt. Last edited by Peter_Spaeth; 04-05-2018 at 08:39 PM. |
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Did anyone else notice the uniform in the lower lefthand corner of the cards are slightly different? One shows a little "white" below the red band, the other shows no "white." Pictures cropped differently on the plate?
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Possibly ink bleed. I wouldn't think they would re-crop something in print unless it is a major flaw.
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Some answered, which is likely true as well, that those were likely placed in books and the like and long forgotten about. I recently tried to join a FaceBook card site and the one question I was asked before I was granted admission was, "Who do you think is better, PSA or SGC"? I answered, I thought SGC was more accurate/harsher/consistent when it came to grading, and I haven't heard a word nor been excepted since. ![]()
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WOW. Went for $28,100.
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Mine doesn't look so bad in comparison for $280.... haha
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I can't believe there are people that damn naive out there still. This sh!t truly makes me sick to my stomach.
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+1...I'd have used a different word than "naive" myself!!!!
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I was being nice. Not normal for me I know
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I'm certainly the type of collector who would prefer to pay a premium for a centered 4 with eye appeal over whatever a 60/40 Gem Mt 10 would cost— but I also think it's poor form to take time from my day to rain on someone's parade if they bought something I wouldn't. End of the day it's another fellow collector/card enthusiast and rather than insulting him we should hope the gentleman is happy with his new card. Last edited by MattyC; 04-12-2018 at 08:16 AM. |
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