Threatened by Forum Member

[KyleTexas]

Anyone interested in contacting me about my cards should do so directly.

I just had a Forum member appoint himself .. evidently.. as my negotiator.

While this person may have been working for a finders fee from buyers he said he had. I had no agreement with him to place my cards on hold for any timeframe. I made no such aggreements.

I've just received an email threatening to ruin my reputation on Net54 by this same forum member. The email came to my direct email acct and not to my Net54 pm box.

I have copies of all emails and PMs between that member and myself which
clearly spell out the situation.

I am new to Net54 but an old hand at life.. Im 46 years old and a family man.

My reputation is what I live by and can be vouched for by those I have done business with personally and online.. my Ebay ID is kc1dc and my reputation there is 100% as both buyer and seller..has been for 7 years..a fact that can be easily checked. I have done business on Craigslist as buyer/seller... and on 4 other Forums as buyer/seller. I don't have a single black mark on my name at ANY online venue.. and will not begin having one here. I can provide proof of all my statements here if requested.

Since I began selling at 19 years old I have always maintained a "first come, first serve" policy.. I have never held or promised to hold any item I had for sale without some type of monetary deposit.. unless holding for an out of town person who must travel and spend time getting to me to view. Too many buyers are not serious or are at least less than careful about their promises.. My policy of not holding items without deposit has worked well for me and I did not change it out of the blue when I signed on here.

The threat I received was in my opinion.. retaliatory when I rebuked what I felt was an offer of 50cents on the dollar for some of my cards.

I have never hired or sought a representative in any property sales except real estate in my entire life.. and that has not changed.

A sad situation ... I have advised board administration about the threat.
I have forwarded all emails and pm's with this individual to my attorney and have been advised that I am in good stead with the law.

Please do not contact me and ask who this individual is.. the site Administrators know and that is enough. If you have similar complaints I suggest you contact them not fish for information with me.

I don't take this action as any comment on the quality of individuals here
at Net54.. I have had many good conversations with fine members already and I am sure there will be many more.. Thanks.. Kyle

[FrankWakefield]

Ouch... oughta be fun here. Not a place for crap like that. Sorry, Kyle.

[UOFLfan7]

Sorry that you have to go through all this...

[atx840]

Sorry you had to deal with that Kyle, you are a standup guy, good luck!

[wonkaticket]

Well the person who I assume is the same person who reached out to me contacted me in a very upfront manner.

He made it clear they were your cards and you appreciated him pointing your cards to potential buyers for him as you were new. What he got out of this exercise was hopefully a shot at a few items you were looking to sell. Seemed fair and he was very upfront on the whole deal.

I didn’t even put an offer in. I simply asked if you had picked a price. He said you hadn’t and your concern was leaving money on the table as you were all over the place in terms of pricing. He also said you were looking to him and others to help price out these items. Which I believe as you have basically been fishing for a price since being on here with the card/cards.

http://www.net54baseball.com/showthread.php?t=152221

He then came back within the next day and simply said the deal he worked out with you was not moving forward and he was out. If I did have any interest (which I didn’t) I should contact you directly. He was very respectful of you and the situation just basically bowed out.

He did share that a few of the cards you enlisted him to shop had been sold off behind scenes. That gave him pause for concern which I understood. I would hate to go sell/broker a deal to someone I knew then to come back and have the item gone and egg on my face.

I even after this situation decided I would be nice and reach out to you, as you may be having a hard time pricing the items. I gave you the same advice I give most all folks on here.

Get them graded, pick a reputable auction house and let the market decide. Ignore all the PM’s, website links, self-proclaimed card experts, multipliers, SMR’s etc. and let the market decide for you.

In fact you said in your reply to me that quite a few guys gave you the same advice. Its good advice roll with it grade them, list them with an auction and move on. Deals go sour sometimes nature of the beast wish you the best with your sales.

Cheers,

John

Oh but your gonna smear my name. Lmfao. Funny how fast you were on here to church up your reputation after sending me that email yesterday.

Karma is a B!tch

[KyleTexas]

Originally Posted by wonkaticket

He then came back within the next day and simply said the deal he worked out with you was not moving forward and he was out.

He did share that a few of the cards you enlisted him to shop had been sold off behind scenes.

1. Andrew never had any deal with me worked out ... He may have had some wild scheme figured out in his mind on something that would have benefited him but there was never any agreement on price with him on any of my cards..there was never any agreement to hold the cards in limbo while he collected buyers. There was never any agreement for him to act as my representative. If he stated that he had a deal or price negotiated with me or an arrangement with me to hold the cards .. or that he was my representative.. or that I had enlisted him to shop my cards.. what you heard was a lie.
I had no deal worked out with Andrew at all. To me he was simply another buyer interested in my cards. while I continued as I always have.. 1st come 1st served. He did mention that he may have a buyer or buyers.. as far as I was concerned that was fine ... If he had some kind of finders fee arrangement worked out with others this did not bother me at all.

2. There was never any behind the scenes dealing of any sort.. I played my 1st come 1st served cards right side up front with Andrew... hard to deal behind the scenes when your'e dealing face up. I took calls and offers from other potential buyers on my 9 Red Hindus while Andrew drug his feet.. as a result several of the cards he was interested in were sold off. I took calls all day Friday and all day Saturday.. Andrew did not contact me until late Saturday afternoon with an offer... and even then came in with an offer at 50 cents on the dollar.. a price I could have gotten at the local Sports Memoribilia shop.

I guess when you have sour grapes about not being involved with a 9 Red Hindus sale because you've acted to slowly and then come in with a lowball offer you're entitled to make up lies... I guess you're also entitled to threaten to spread lies about the seller...

If Andrew misrepresented himself to the people he was trying to assemble in a manner that benefitted him and lied to them because he wanted to look like he had some kind of influence with me or deal worked out with me because he wanted some of my cards so badly..thats on his head.. not mine.

Statements Andrew never made:
1. Do we have an agreement?
2. Will you hold the cards?
3. Would you like for me to shop your cards for you?
4. Would you provide blah blah blah.. if I sell your cards for you?
There was never any arrangement, agreement, or straight forward bartering.

For the more retarded of the variety... talking with someone does not make them beholding to you.. it does not obligate them to sign over 50% of their equity in a property to you... it does not obligate them to agree to any wild idea you might have... Someone who just met you 3 days earlier usually doesnt owe you anything... but when you slander someone by stating they broke an agreement with you that you never had..then exclaim you'll be maliciously spreading that lie about them in a manner meant to bring harm.. they do owe you this.. their contempt... and likely a whole lot more.