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Old 10-18-2018, 11:02 AM
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2019 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL
2020 – Atlantic City Convention Center, Atlantic City, NJ
2021 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL
2022 – International Exposition (I-X) Center Cleveland, OH
2023 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL

I guess there are no plans for Baltimore anymore.
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Old 10-18-2018, 11:53 AM
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There are a few criteria that are needed for the National. If I remember correctly, the only/main issue with Baltimore was the dates (part of the first week in August) being tied up for some time by another convention. Most/all other of the items (contiguous space, dealers able to unload themselves, et al) were not an issue.

This is what I 'remember' hearing so I would yield to anyone who can confirm (or deny).
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Old 10-18-2018, 12:14 PM
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Yes, that is correct on Baltimore, They would love to do Baltimore again, but the dates and advance notice are a hindrance ===I would love Boston , but The National says the Unions, Hotels,etc don't make it work. But quite sure they Love the National in Chicago and Cleveland.
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Why nothing west of Chicago? Seems like Las Vegas or someplace in SoCal would be great.
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Old 10-18-2018, 02:42 PM
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Why nothing west of Chicago? Seems like Las Vegas or someplace in SoCal would be great.
2006 was the last year it was on the West Coast, and now the earliest it could come back would be 18 years later.

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I can't complain too much because I'm in between Chicago and Cleveland and driving to both is a piece of cake, but I really enjoyed going to Baltimore. Seeing some different dealers in other parts of the country would be great, too.....maybe someday.
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One would think that somewhere in California, Oregon, Nevada, Arizona, Colorado, or Texas there would be a venue that would work.

I wonder how much time and energy has been spent researching venues other than the current three?

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Why nothing west of Chicago? Seems like Las Vegas or someplace in SoCal would be great.
Orlando, Fl would be ideal
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Old 02-03-2019, 07:26 PM
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Orlando, Fl would be ideal
In my dreams. Live 2 hours from there and you also have universal, Disney, and a good airport. C9nvention center is huge so probably too big of a venue. But would be nice
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I'd like to see a National in Boston too being such a great sports town but it would be absolutely insane for all the reasons stated and then some. I could write a book about Atlantic City in 'O3.
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"I keep hoping that someone will start a second National, a Winter National so to speak. Say, during Spring Training Season and alternating between Arizona and Florida venues. Even better, make this one a Vintage Pre-1980 National."

That's a great idea. It makes so much sense to do a big show tied to spring training. There's never a time of year I'm more excited about baseball, and consequently, collecting. I love alternating between Arizona and Florida. I'm OK with a non vintage theme because I wouldn't want to discourage younger collectors. I suspect in time many will catch the vintage collecting bug.
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I'm done with the National. It was nice when they occasionally made it to the West Coast. It was worth the hassle and cost to see some great stuff (albeit most of it overpriced) and chat with folks. I think the cons start to outweigh the pros when I have to fly across the country to attend. The money I save could be used to buy something pretty nice.
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I'm done with the National. It was nice when they occasionally made it to the West Coast. It was worth the hassle and cost to see some great stuff (albeit most of it overpriced) and chat with folks. I think the cons start to outweigh the pros when I have to fly across the country to attend. The money I save could be used to buy something pretty nice.
Completely agree with this. There are plenty of Western venues that can meet the necessary criteria. The National is basically giving the middle finger to anyone who lives west of the Mississippi. They could mix in Dallas, Denver, LA, San Diego, Las Vegas, Seattle, and a handful of other cities in which you can actually catch a direct flight.

Atlantic City... what a joke, and a logistical nightmare.

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Hello, is anyone in this thread connected to the National? I know someone from Baltimore who would like to talk to them. Things have changed in the convention bureau.


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The geographic center of the United States is near Lebanon, KS.

Plenty of contiguous ground space if it doesn’t rain. I think there are two or three airports in Kansas, but not sure which one is closest or how far.

Native Angelenos have an expression “oh, you’re from back east”, which can be used to refer to anyone who was born east of San Bernardino.

So Vegas works because it’s back east. Anaheim does not. Both have indoor venues that would hold the entire metropolis of Lebanon, KS.
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How about the lack of sales in Baltimore? Has that changed? I could live without Baltimore, Atlantic City, and Atlanta ever again. I live in the midwest and I agree with almost everyone that calls for the national to go back to California on a somewhat regular basis.

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How about the lack of sales in Baltimore? Has that changed? I could live without Baltimore, Atlantic City, and Atlanta ever again. I live in the midwest and I agree with almost everyone that calls for the national to go back to California on a somewhat regular basis.
Most people I spoke with did fairly well in Baltimore. It's about as ideal as a set up for the Eastern Part of the country as any location.

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How about a site near Cooperstown - close to Induction Weekend.



I've never been to a National and would never get to one on the west coast, however what I've suggested would be a can't miss for me.


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Your best bet is next year in AC. Typically HOF weekend is the last weekend in July. The national is the first weekend in August. So you can do HOF on fri- mon then the national starts in AC on Wed-Thurs. About a 5-6 hour drive.

I’m not sure how close you want to get but since we are in the middle of nowhere there really isn’t anywhere close outside of Albany and Syracuse - both 1 1/2 hours away. Cooperstown itself couldn’t host such an event because the lack of venue, lack of an airport, no highway and lack of available accommodations in the area. Rooms are mostly booked during the summer and are very expensive. The closest major cities that would be appropriate are NYC and Boston - each about 4 hours away. AC and Baltimore are the closest recent locations.

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I still say Vegas. Maybe it cost prohibitive w/ unions and all that. But that would be an amazing way to get more eyeballs on our hobby.
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Our two best Nationals in the last 13 years were Baltimore and Baltimore. Would love to return.
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Just saw this:

2019 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL
2020 – Atlantic City Convention Center, Atlantic City, NJ
2021 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL
2022 – International Exposition (I-X) Center Cleveland, OH
2023 – Donald E Stephens Convention Center, Chicago, IL

I guess there are no plans for Baltimore anymore.
Nice, I will be able to go in 2020!
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