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Old 02-20-2017, 10:56 PM
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It's kinda common sense when you have bidders with tons of bid retractions along with high percentages of bids with only PWCC that rampant shilling is taking place. But let's face it, bidders will keep bidding to get access to quality material and consigners will keep consigning to get top dollar.

I would hope that those that participate in PWCC auctions go in with a budgetary plan and a good sniping software.

As for the DiMaggio, If you have knowledge that a card has been fixed up to the degree that this one was you should include that information to your buyers even if you think some of them won't care about its history and it will hurt short term profits. Protecting your reputation is by far worth more in the long term.
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Old 02-21-2017, 06:30 AM
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That is a great point AJ but we unfortunately live in a world where short term financial game too often supersedes long term reputation. Quick buck versus respect.
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Seems like this thread is finally run its course, until Cortney posts more of the conversation, or preferably all of it.
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Hmm. The thread was just about to go off the front page and we still do not have the entire conversation that Cortney was hoping to give us.
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Old 02-23-2017, 06:32 AM
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Hmm. The thread was just about to go off the front page and we still do not have the entire conversation that Cortney was hoping to give us.
right, perhaps he has been in talks with someone and has agreed not to show anything else. Someone that said has years of texts to only show 2 or 3 snippets really does not give fair context. Plus he kept saying he would show them and at the same time keeps saying that everything he says is the truth
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it looks like a "lovers spat" to me...which I'm guessing will disappear under the rug in typical fashion.
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it looks like a "lovers spat" to me...which I'm guessing will disappear under the rug in typical fashion.
Of course it will and we will have a PWCC pick up thread in the near future.

Stuff trumps everything for most people. Just look at Goldin, everybody swore they would never buy from them again after the Mastro shill list. Then he had a lawyer send members letter because they were calling out very suspicious auctions. Now he is a advertiser on this site and people are posting pick up threads and complaining about not being able to bid in their auctions. No wonder the scammers love this hobby.
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Seems like this thread is finally run its course, until Cortney posts more of the conversation, or preferably all of it.
This post above was 3 days ago. This thread has run it's course, imo, and it doesn't look like ole financier Courtney is coming back. If there is any luck he won't have a choice in answering some questions in the future. But this thread is not on the original topic anymore. Courtney, or anyone, can start another one if they want to. Personally, I have bid with both Goldin and PWCC recently (and consigned) and will continue. IF others don't that is always their prerogative. Of course they both advertise here but I don't think either one is doing anything wrong in today's environment. I think both have made mistakes in the past, as we all have, and probably regret them just like we do when we make them. Those companies, and all companies and people, will be just as open to scrutiny in the future as they are now. Happy collecting.
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It's kinda common sense when you have bidders with tons of bid retractions along with high percentages of bids with only PWCC that rampant shilling is taking place. But let's face it, bidders will keep bidding to get access to quality material and consigners will keep consigning to get top dollar.

I would hope that those that participate in PWCC auctions go in with a budgetary plan and a good sniping software.

As for the DiMaggio, If you have knowledge that a card has been fixed up to the degree that this one was you should include that information to your buyers even if you think some of them won't care about its history and it will hurt short term profits. Protecting your reputation is by far worth more in the long term.
I agree with A.J. Those that keep bidding on lots along with bidders who have tons of bid retractions or have hardly any feedback get what they deserve. As long as you're willing to overpay for something that a month later you can likely get cheaper, enjoy! I guess stuff does trump all ... including your hard earned $$$$.

For the rest of us, we will wait for these inflated prices to fall and buy something for what its really worth.

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